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Chris van Vegchel Australia (Verified User) Posts 443 Dogs 3 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 00:15
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And where are the Associations that are supposed to be the voice of participants? Missing in action, that's where. Does anybody listen to them anyway? Do they have any power?
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 29 Apr 2015 01:01
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Chris van Vegchel wrote:
And where are the Associations that are supposed to be the voice of participants? Missing in action, that's where. Does anybody listen to them anyway? Do they have any power?
Chris this is the problem as I see it as well but we can fix this .
The GOTBA in every State has suffered very low numbers of members for one reason and one reason only ...
They suffer from the same people doing the hard yards year after year and this is why it is so important to now SIGN UP and USE YOUR VOICE and then VOTE FOR CHANGE AND DIRECTION from the Grass roots up .
We need a strong and forceful committees and people who are not afraid of upsetting the people at the top . We need a wide variety of people ON EVERY COMMITTEE to represent us the OWNERS AND TRAINERS.
We need people from the Back Yard breeder to the big time professional Trainers and Owners .
We need people with PASSION FOR OUR BELOVED GREYHOUNDS .
We cannot sit back and continue to follow our beloved leaders because as we are seeing now they really don't give a rats butt crack about us it's members and we have a INDUSTRY that is being driven by PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT IT'S MEMBERS .
We have a Industry DRIVEN BY PEOPLE WHO GET PAID TO DO A JOB and those same people go home at night waiting for the next pay check to come in next week .
We need people to stand up and say ENOUGH WITH THE ROT THROW OUT THE ROTTEN APPLES and it will only happen when we as Owners and Trainers unite AND THE ONLY RECOGNISED BODY to do this is the GOTBA ...
Mark Schlegel Australia (Verified User) Posts 3168 Dogs 9 / Races 5 29 Apr 2015 01:04
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Chris van Vegchel wrote:
And where are the Associations that are supposed to be the voice of participants? Missing in action, that's where. Does anybody listen to them anyway? Do they have any power?
No....and, no.
The various State boards have consistently shown that they will run the industry and make decisions as they see fit. No amount of opposition, no representations from industry groups have ever influenced those decisions. They know what is good for us and we should just like it or lump it!
I believe about 100 people attended the Meadows the other night for a "consultation" session with GRV.
Anyone care to list what issues were raised so we can see whether GRV actually listen to the concerns of the industry and act on them?
I'm happy to offer odds that we are ignored....again.
Chris van Vegchel Australia (Verified User) Posts 443 Dogs 3 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 01:40
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Kevin and Mark,
I agree. This is a multi million dollar industry. If the governing bodies refuse to come to the table and listen to the concerns of the participants elected representatives then what hope is there? I thought we lived in Australia not communist China or Russia.
And where are the Associations that are supposed to be the voice of participants? Missing in action, that's where. Does anybody listen to them anyway? Do they have any power?
Neither the QGBOTA or the UQGA in Qld are worth being members of,for almost 3 months since Slip through the cracks and the Buck stops at the top (and a couple of dozen desperate greyhound trainers)with their distorted press coverage have destroyed the image of greyhound racing,these stakeholder representative committees have done absolutely nothing about the FOL or calling for the dissolution of Racing Qld,to improve greyhound stakeholders livelyhoods,in fact quite the opposite overseen appearance money almost disappear and prize money dwindle without an industry meeting is pathetic.
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 02:47
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GRNSW say audible devices are ok. Does anyone know if there is a device that you can record sounds onto and would be activate when it was shaken? Something that could be put in a toy and play the sound when a dog shook it.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 29 Apr 2015 05:57
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Anthony Jeffress wrote:
Mark Schlegel wrote:
....and announcers should not call it a lure or bunny.....just ARM (Artificial Reward Mechanism). :P
Lol
So I've now got to say:
"The runners are all locked away; the green light is switched on & the power is through to the boxes; the Artificial Reward Mechanism rolls and we're all set for a jump..." ;-)
I might throw this one in for the next race at Albion Park ;-)
....and announcers should not call it a lure or bunny.....just ARM (Artificial Reward Mechanism). :P
Lol
So I've now got to say:
"The runners are all locked away; the green light is switched on & the power is through to the boxes; the Artificial Reward Mechanism rolls and we're all set for a jump..." ;-)
I might throw this one in for the next race at Albion Park ;-)
Anthony,don"t make a liar of yourself,there is no reward until the FOL is introduced ,and the dunces cant call the hoop lures an arm.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 29 Apr 2015 06:11
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Richard & the guys in the Sky studio enjoyed that one anyway! ;-) :-)
Ironically (or not?), I reckon a runner or 2 in that race may figure prominently in the Steward's Report too. Hmmmmm ....
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 29 Apr 2015 06:34
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Tor Janes wrote:
maybe they could call it " peta"
Just for good measure, I gave that one a 'run' in race 6, Tor ;-)
Tor Janes Australia (Verified User) Posts 10026 Dogs 16 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 08:24
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Peta the persuader I like it AJ!
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 09:28
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kevin wright wrote:
Chris van Vegchel wrote:
And where are the Associations that are supposed to be the voice of participants? Missing in action, that's where. Does anybody listen to them anyway? Do they have any power?
Chris this is the problem as I see it as well but we can fix this .
The GOTBA in every State has suffered very low numbers of members for one reason and one reason only ...
They suffer from the same people doing the hard yards year after year and this is why it is so important to now SIGN UP and USE YOUR VOICE and then VOTE FOR CHANGE AND DIRECTION from the Grass roots up .
We need a strong and forceful committees and people who are not afraid of upsetting the people at the top . We need a wide variety of people ON EVERY COMMITTEE to represent us the OWNERS AND TRAINERS.
We need people from the Back Yard breeder to the big time professional Trainers and Owners .
We need people with PASSION FOR OUR BELOVED GREYHOUNDS .
We cannot sit back and continue to follow our beloved leaders because as we are seeing now they really don't give a rats butt crack about us it's members and we have a INDUSTRY that is being driven by PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT IT'S MEMBERS .
We have a Industry DRIVEN BY PEOPLE WHO GET PAID TO DO A JOB and those same people go home at night waiting for the next pay check to come in next week .
We need people to stand up and say ENOUGH WITH THE ROT THROW OUT THE ROTTEN APPLES and it will only happen when we as Owners and Trainers unite AND THE ONLY RECOGNISED BODY to do this is the GOTBA ...
Hi Kevin. All this nonsense on what we can or can't do or use 2 train K9's is becoming a complete JOKE ! We have people handing down rules that HAVE NEVER trained a K9 in their life ! I'm with you 100% Kevin , where or how do I sign up or make my voice known ? Cheers m8
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 29 Apr 2015 09:38
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Anthony Jeffress wrote:
Tor Janes wrote:
maybe they could call it " peta"
Just for good measure, I gave that one a 'run' in race 6, Tor ;-)
Why the hell would you even consider entertaining that name PETA, let alone give it free-air-play, is beyond me.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 29 Apr 2015 10:44
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You must have had a bad line Stevo. It was "Peter" I was saying, not "Peta" ;-)
Steve Woods Australia (Verified User) Posts 784 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 11:29
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When you have absolute power you can do what you want.
Dont forget NERO burnt ROME just because he could
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 22:35
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Anthony you could be soon calling - " The vegan raised little puppies have been put in their play pens and the solar powered green light is on - the non-organic totally synthetic toy is on it's way and the puppies will soon be let out to play - there they go running and playing in the sand and don't forget what nice pets they make ladies and gentleman." It is becoming that ridiculous.
Chris van Vegchel Australia (Verified User) Posts 443 Dogs 3 / Races 0 29 Apr 2015 23:18
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Sound familiar??
Dictatorship-
noun 1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. 3. the office or position held by a dictator.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 30 Apr 2015 03:15
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Jack Gatty wrote:
Anthony you could be soon calling - " The vegan raised little puppies have been put in their play pens and the solar powered green light is on - the non-organic totally synthetic toy is on it's way and the puppies will soon be let out to play - there they go running and playing in the sand and don't forget what nice pets they make ladies and gentleman." It is becoming that ridiculous.
I might have to get them to give the "Artificial reward mechanism" a much longer run up to fit all those words in ;-)
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 30 Apr 2015 03:30
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Lol Anthony - Vince Curry would be spinning.
Ian Wood Australia (Verified User) Posts 41 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Apr 2015 03:40
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Mark Schlegel wrote:
Chris van Vegchel wrote:
And where are the Associations that are supposed to be the voice of participants? Missing in action, that's where. Does anybody listen to them anyway? Do they have any power?
No....and, no.
The various State boards have consistently shown that they will run the industry and make decisions as they see fit. No amount of opposition, no representations from industry groups have ever influenced those decisions. They know what is good for us and we should just like it or lump it!
I believe about 100 people attended the Meadows the other night for a "consultation" session with GRV.
Anyone care to list what issues were raised so we can see whether GRV actually listen to the concerns of the industry and act on them?
I'm happy to offer odds that we are ignored....again.
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