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Kev Galloway Australia (Verified User) Posts 2447 Dogs 5 / Races 0 24 Nov 2015 01:18
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Jack Gatty wrote:
The absurd figures Must be refuted and corrected. They assume that if a dog doesn't race then it has been euthanized. I have 5 that would be counted as euthanized sitting on my couch and I know of many others who are doing the same thing at other owners, trainers and enthusiasts homes and our so called representatives sit back and let media print this crap. They should be demanding retraction or suing them. Why are anti campaigners who know zero about our industry allowed to lie and spruik there garbage as fact to the public, the media and this commission? It's shows that our leadership is not behind those they represent.
Its the animal libbers in Greyhounds Australasia sabotarging the greyhound code nationally who are responsible for all our current chaos.
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 24 Nov 2015 08:49
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kev galloway wrote:
Jack Gatty wrote:
The absurd figures Must be refuted and corrected. They assume that if a dog doesn't race then it has been euthanized. I have 5 that would be counted as euthanized sitting on my couch and I know of many others who are doing the same thing at other owners, trainers and enthusiasts homes and our so called representatives sit back and let media print this crap. They should be demanding retraction or suing them. Why are anti campaigners who know zero about our industry allowed to lie and spruik there garbage as fact to the public, the media and this commission? It's shows that our leadership is not behind those they represent.
Its the animal libbers in Greyhounds Australasia sabotarging the greyhound code nationally who are responsible for all our current chaos.
Feel free toname them Kev...
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 24 Nov 2015 22:56
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Kev, the way I see it in NSW is that it's a 2 pronged attack from the libbers you mentioned and the horse industry. I'm convinced that the horsey elite have there hooks into the NSW government and hate the fact that greyhound punting turnover is the only code increasing it's market share.
Paul Wheeler Australia (Verified User) Posts 329 Dogs 8 / Races 0 25 Nov 2015 01:19
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Kev I'm thinking the same way as you GA should not be making any public or so called confidential comment about anything to do with the greyhound industry.
It's is not GA's roll to comment on anything , it is our various state Authorities responsibility to issue press releases etc.
In my opinion GA should be disbanded over they way it has conducted it's self during the coarse of this year.
GA has stated that the greyhound industry euthanises 17,000 greyhounds a year based on when a dogs does not have a start within 3 or 4 months it's dead.
How crazy is that !
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Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 25 Nov 2015 01:35
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PAW - how would this occur? I don't understand the legalities but would it take the state regulators to say they have no confidence in GA and take on the role of GA themselves, and apart from being a database of naming dogs and DNA records what or who is GA? Can anyone explain to me what is GA's legal status as a regulator?
Leeanne Unsworth Australia (Verified User) Posts 39 Dogs 25 / Races 8 25 Nov 2015 03:14
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Taken from GA's own website: "Membership is generally limited to bodies that are authorised by statute to control or regulate greyhound racing, in the states and territories of Australia and New Zealand.
By reason of the state/federal political system, each controlling administers greyhound racing within its own jurisdiction, with GA being the support arm to create consistency and uniformity where that outcome is in the best interests of its members."
It's how & why the industry has National Rules and Local Rules. If a State agrees with a GA rule, the local Board agrees to adopt it at a Board meeting. If a State doesn't want the GA rule, they simply implement a Local Rule or leave the issue alone by doing nothing. GA are simply the mouthpiece for the industry when the individual states agree on something.....
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 31 Mar 2016 03:41
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Just out: In NSW greyhound racing news Justice Michael McHugh has been given an extra 2 months to complete Special Commission inquiry into the greyhound racing code in the state.
As reported, "Commissioner McHugh has requested the extra time after more information required detailed examination. No further extensions are expected."
Chris van Vegchel Australia (Verified User) Posts 443 Dogs 3 / Races 0 31 Mar 2016 04:36
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Bring out the Limbo stick
Rod Hampton Australia Posts 1627 Dogs 2993 / Races 11820 31 Mar 2016 07:50
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How much a day are they getting paid? What a disgrace! who's paying for this extension? If you can't do the job you contracted for,, then you're sacked!!
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 01 Apr 2016 00:30
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Does anyone know what this 'New Information' is that has come to light and requires 2 more months to process? The way it was reported on Radio didn't sound too positive. I bet it's not something positive like rebutting the 13,000-17,000 garbage number sprouted by the QC prosecuting the industry.
Tom Astbury Australia (Verified User) Posts 442 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Apr 2016 07:57
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perhaps they needed more time to consider this hypothesis: - from transcript 18/2/16 Hogan XN Rushton (LHS numbers are just paragraph numbers)
Q. Mr Hogan, can I ask you a few questions about the proposals that were set out in the January 5 2013 paper? A. Yes. Q. Did you draft that or - - - A. I led the strategic review. The actual paper itself I would imagine would 10 have been written by a combination of myself, Patrick Hallinan and Michael East. Q. What you saw as being in the best interest of the industry was confining meetings to 17 venues with 18 full-time slots, equalling 52 race meetings once 15 a week. If you reduced the number of tracks to say half a dozen and increased the number of meetings to three a week you could probably still achieve those (indistinct) race meetings. I appreciate there may be some political push back about confining the numbers, but from the point of view of efficiency would you have any problems with that; reducing the tracks even further? 20 A. Absolutely not. I mean if you were able to remove this industry from the political sphere, yes, you would be reducing the tracks significantly. Its not only about improving efficiency and the financial performance of those tracks, but by having a smaller footprint you immediately have the capacity to improve the standards of the racing facility, which has a flow through impact 25 on welfare and it also assists to increase the barriers to entry for participation, so from my experience the general welfare issues that would be encountered generally related to, if you like, the bottom percentile of participants, the usual suspects. The higher you can move the bar to get rid of that element, the better off the industry will be in the long run. 30 Q. Yes. It's obvious, I think, that the cost of maintaining the industry would be reduced fairly dramatically if you can reduce the number of tracks down to half a dozen or so, and your thought, at least in 2013, was, was it not, that by about 2020 revenue would be basically coming from online transactions? 35 A. It basically already was, and that trend is not going to change. What is changing, and will continue to change over the course of time, is that the revenue mix of Greyhound Racing New South Wales is shifting away from TAB distributions to being more heavily reliant on race field fees from other wagering operators, and race field fees are only received based on the 40 performance of your own product. So those are coming close together where, in the next five to 10 years, if not less, it will be a 50/50 revenue mix for the industry as the competitive pressures on the TAB push down distributions, or at least have them grow at a much lower rate than what race fields will which will continue to grow and take market share. .18.02.16 P-911 B.R. HOGAN XN Spark and Cannon MR RUSHTON Q. Since you produced this report, it's obvious that in the future, assuming the industry continues, that the expenditure side is going to increase dramatically because of animal welfare and integrity issues, and these are further factors which would seem to indicate that the old model has 5 just got to go. A. I agree. I mean, it's - there are significant issues with the revenue side of the industry and they are still in place, those impediments are still in place, and they will continue to have a restrictive effect on the ability of GRNSW to influence the revenue that it's receiving.
Troy Scott Australia (Verified User) Posts 1573 Dogs 19 / Races 36 02 Apr 2016 08:46
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Jack Gatty wrote:
Does anyone know what this 'New Information' is that has come to light and requires 2 more months to process? The way it was reported on Radio didn't sound too positive. I bet it's not something positive like rebutting the 13,000-17,000 garbage number sprouted by the QC prosecuting the industry.
If that's what it boils down too, then I want a full list of every dog's name, cause of death and a certificate or stat dec to verify each death.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 11 Apr 2016 04:31
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Meanwhile, Narrabri n Muswellbrook harness racing going well on TAB on Sunday's. It's almost a resurgence. Gotta love the fairness of it all !
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