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Leeanne Unsworth
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if you thought the wave of anti greyhound racing was big February & March, wait until these reports filter through

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Belinda King
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28 Sep 2015 03:09


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I don't know who writes this rubbish or were they get there figures from 17500 pups born a year between 13000 & 17000 put down a year what rubbish.



Jack Gatty
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28 Sep 2015 03:22


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You would think an inquiry would deal with facts, reality and truth. The ravings and lies put forward by deluded, self interest groups who make up garbage to suit their warped views should be binned and exposed for the rubbish it is. Wish they would go back to whale saving and pull their heads in as they have zero credibility when they come out with such rot.


Paul Zammit
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28 Sep 2015 04:44


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Weather true or not, the general public believe what is being reported, so if contradictory "facts" are available, someone better get them out in to the public soon, because the end is near if the currant "fact's" can not be countered.


Ian Bradshaw
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28 Sep 2015 04:50


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Well Belinda, if those figures are all rubbish as you claim. perhaps you can let us know what the true figures are.


James Saunders
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28 Sep 2015 05:00


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ive rehomed 60% of dogs ive bred so far and theres many out there like me.Its pretty much not part of the stats because no one really cares what happened to them after they raced till this scandal came about and surprise surprise there was interest in rehoming and dogs welfare after racing.The authorities have let us down badly on this part and are now chasing there tails and looking like that as well.Those figures are stupid many ex racers are living on peoples lounges undocumented and greyhounds Australasia has never contacted me once about what my after racing plans are.So where do they get there figures from.


Adrian Dowdle
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28 Sep 2015 05:13


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james saunders wrote:

Those figures are stupid many ex racers are living on peoples lounges undocumented and greyhounds Australasia has never contacted me once about what my after racing plans are.So where do they get there figures from.

EXACTLY!

Were do they pull there figures from?




Grant Thomas
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IF we go they ALL go(horses)...

what do the greenies etc DO with the 1,000's upon 1,000's of racing dogs...rehome them ALL...???

I see 'The Oaks' is up for sale again...

Jeff...what is the damage to the States regarding revenue...???

Anyone know what affect(numbers) it could have on those of us that are 'fulltime' and who's wages or salary are derived from greys...???

Is the future greyhound racing scene a computer game in clubs and pubs...horses too for that matter...???

Can 'we' come up with a plan where what exists today...continues for the good of ALL and the dogs...???

WHO writes out this plan and delivers it so ALL are happy...???


Sandro Bechini
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ian bradshaw wrote:

Well Belinda, if those figures are all rubbish as you claim. perhaps you can let us know what the true figures are.

From the Greyhounds Australasia statistics of litters born per annum

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"The industry is responsible for the unnecessary deaths of anywhere between 13,000 and 17,000 young greyhounds every year," Greyhounds Australasia wrote in an internal memo this year."

In the 2012 to 2014 calendar years 9035 litters were born in those 3 years

At an average of 6 pups a litter that is about 54,200 pups over 3 years

From those same statistics approx. 13,000 pups are named per year or 39,000 over a 3 year period

This does not take into account pups that may die soon after birth or have accidents or injuries prior to racing

Therefore , over 3 years about 15,000 pups are not named or about 5,000 young dogs per year may not make it to the track

Then there are bitches that are kept for breeding which adds up to about 9,000 female greyhounds every 3 years that reduces the figures down again and then there are bitches in waiting that have not been bred with as well.

Take out the fact that greyhound adoption is on the increase, it is laughable to even suggest that 17,000-18,000 YOUNG greyhounds are put down every year.

These figures really need to be looked at with some unbiasedness.

Also from the SMH article

"In contrast, the RSPCA puts down 15 per cent of the dogs it receives each year, about 7000 in 2013-2014."

From the RSPCA Annual Report:

"Sadly, 15.9% (7,313) of dogs/puppies were still humanely euthanased (see figure 5).

We remain focused on adopting all animals that are 'suitable for adoption.'

Of dogs euthanased, the majority of cases are because of severe behavioural issues (70.8%).

This includes 'aggression and severe anxiety' that the RSPCA is not able to or has not been able to treat through behavioural modification programs.

Such issues can compromise the dogs welfare and quality of life and can be a safety risk to adults and children."

Sadly, they also euthanized 15,000 cats and 15,000 other animals, therefore over 37,000 animals have been killed in one year by this body.

Even this body admits that many dogs and I would say, a fair proportion from other breeds of dogs, have character flaws that make them unsuitable for re-homing or adoption.

At the end of the day, not every greyhound will make a perfect pet but with the handling they get in their race career, the greyhound makes a better dog for re-homing.

Its our powers that be that have let us down by not in increasing the options available for us to re-home our dogs with caring people and by ignoring the fate of these dogs

As a group, our associations across the country need to pull their finger out and make some real changes in this area.



Belinda King
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28 Sep 2015 07:53


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if you cant figure it out with simple mathematics ian bradshaw maybe you should not figure in this conversation.



Jack Gatty
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The absurd figures Must be refuted and corrected. They assume that if a dog doesn't race then it has been euthanized. I have 5 that would be counted as euthanized sitting on my couch and I know of many others who are doing the same thing at other owners, trainers and enthusiasts homes and our so called representatives sit back and let media print this crap. They should be demanding retraction or suing them. Why are anti campaigners who know zero about our industry allowed to lie and spruik there garbage as fact to the public, the media and this commission? It's shows that our leadership is not behind those they represent.


James Saunders
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28 Sep 2015 08:11


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Greyhounds Australasia have done us no favours and it begs the question why do we have them.



Glenn Hatton
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If they have an SC (Queens Counsel) representing THEM do we have similar?

All resources should be aimed at refuting inaccurate claims but sadly if they haven't got proper representation by this stage, the horse has bolted.

A lot of stats quoted by the news involved ALL DOG BREEDS, not just greyhounds.

I hope the TAB is sticking up for us, they stand to lose $$$ millions if the industry is knocked off.

Apparently we pay the price for the inept nature of our industry oversight. Funnily enough, those that ultimately presided over it were the politicians who are now putting us to the sword.


James Saunders
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28 Sep 2015 08:27


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TABS been awfully quiet.


Mick Mellington
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28 Sep 2015 08:28


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Is there still a market for Greyhounds to go to Asian / Overseas racing interests ??


James Saunders
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28 Sep 2015 08:29


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Must have both testicles.


Mick Mellington
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james saunders wrote:

Must have both testicles.

Cripes!! " They " have gotten fussy.



Belinda King
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look I have to agree jack its about time our PTB in all states take these people on and put a stop to all this nonsense. there are more and more people in the pubic believing all this rubbish because we are not fighting back. I have to wonder about our leaders are they fair dinkum or not or are we on a hiding to nothing our so called leaders should stand up and make your present count after all thats what you get paid to do represent our industry.


Joe Baldacchino
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Whilst things don't look to good at the moment, its still early days in the inquiry. Chin up everyone!


Sandro Bechini
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Jack Gatty wrote:

It's shows that our leadership is not behind those they represent.

Jack

We don't have any leadership.

At the very least the GRNSW Board should have been retained to assist Mr McHugh to filter the noise that has been created and to sift the forest from the trees

Imagine any major organization without leadership.

To dismiss the Board was a reprehensible act IMHO

Most of the Board Members had no direct involvement in Greyhound Racing and were being fed bulldust by the employees that they hired

It was right for Hogan to get the axe.

He has a lot to answer for in letting it get to this stage.



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