If you took that money from the IGB then Greyhound people will be back in debt and nothing will come from the loss of a great Stadium.

John its obvious the Federation dont care about owners and breeders only their own agendas, the meeting in Limerick seems to be a closed shop and GOBA members are not involved. Surely Delegates should have been given agendas and points of discussion so they can canvas opinions of their members. I am not sure that is happening.

I believe Clonmel meeting is still going ahead and although not officially mandated by Federation executive it is organised by 4 GOBAs who are affiliated.

However you are wrong to say that the IGOBF should not criticise the IGB performance over the past decade when they have submitted some of the worst financial returns in the history of the state.

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Its really easy to constantly criticize from a distance without ever coming up with solutions. My reading of what Dave proposes and I presume what the organization that he represents is proposing is that we should give back the government grant, sack every board member and constantly publish every bit of bad news he can dig up from the past and then hope that the game will improve!!!! I sense an ego trip!!

In any other industry this mismanagement which had resulted by 2017, in over 31.42 million being taken from prize money (i.e. the small man in rural areas) to shore up loses due to incompetency would have resulted in huge change.

The greyhound groups submission to the IGB forum on the 26th of September was to look for more prizemoney while the current level of prizemoney is not sustainable based on the industries financial performance. Around the same time the IGB has commissioned a report for publication in early 2019 to evaluate the performance of every track on an individual basis. This report will be used to close tracks similar to the way the Indecon report was used to close Harolds Cross.

For example the type of questions that the greyhound group should have submitted was;

a) Why is the IGB wasting a quarter of the marketing budget (300k EVERY YEAR) on a call centre in Thurles when they have an online ordering system? Especially when in 2014 the IGB used the moving of this call centre to Limerick as a saving to justify the building of Limerick stadium in a report to a government body.
b) Why are there still IGB members who were involved in the decision for the Limerick debacle despite alternative recommendations in the Indecon report that was used as an excuse to sell HX.

The federation should be holding the IGB executive to account as they are certainly paid enough!!!

There is no point in being secretive and hiding in the long grass due to advancements in information and communications technology and the fact that all the parties involved in the HX sale debacle are heading for a session in the PAC that will make the May 17 sessions tame in comparison.

Have you read the IGB's financial returns over the past decade. You are either very stupid or involved and part of the problem.

The HX sale bailing out the IGB (political cronyism) by an extra 12 million on top of the 16 million they get every year. And some of you numpties on this forum saying it was a good thing.

But the good news is that funding political cronyism at the expense of school kids stuck in Porto cabins in rural areas and not having special needs teachers is going to be a thing of the past after the next PAC.

You do realise that it was the IGOBF who turned down my help not the side that you were earlier supporting.

Add clown to "stupid", "part of the problem" and "numpties".

Im glad you made that clear Kieran. Your offer of help was turned down as mediator because the last thing they want is a democratic vote for officers of the IGOBF.

Its a private meeting they want so they can vote to get the committee they wish for. Sadly not the one that Dog Owners ask for

This will demonstrate to Greyhound Owners and Breeders all over the Country that the Federation wish to be representative of all Greyhound Owners and Breeders in order that the same Owners and Breeders have a viable and respected Organisation to represent their views in interacting with the IGB.

100% agree with you David - it is the only way forward.

And this is what the vast majority of Owners and breeders from all over Ireland want

DAVE THE CURRENT UNELECTED COMMITTEE ARE RUNNING THE IGOBF LIKE DICTATORS,
THE IGOBF HAS MORE THAN 3 GOBA AS I REMEMBER THERE ARE 7 GOBA AND 4 HAVE CALLED AN EGM FOR 22ND IN CLONMEL AND ALL GOBA HAVE BEEN INVITED INCLUDING THE 3 THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE UNELECTED, THATS A MAJORITY OF 4 TO 3 DAVE,SO WERE IS THE DEMOCRACY NOW ? YOU SAY THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL AND ADVERTISE AN EGM WELL TELL ME THIS WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO CALL ANY MEETING ? NEITHER YOU OR THE OTHERS ARE ELECTED INTO ANY POSITION WITHIN THE IGOBF. YOU HAVE LOST YOUR CROWN DAVE ITS TIME TO MOVE ON,

YOU CALLED YOUR MEETING IN LIMERICK, THATS BRAVE AND CENTRAL ISNT IT,YOUR SUSPENDING GOBA DELEGATES BECAUSE THEY STAND UP TO YOU FOR THINGS LIKE BEING A TRAINER OR BRINGING THE GAME INTO DISREPUTE AND BETTER THAN THAT YOU DONE IT ALL WITHOUT A MEETING WITH THE 7 GOBA THAT MAKE UP THE IGOBF AND AGAIN I SAY IT AS UNELLECTED SECRETARY. WHATS GOING ON ? DO YOU KNOW YOUR OWN CONSTITUTION BECAUSE IT LOOKS TO ME YOUR MAKING UP YOUR OWN RULES AS YOU GO ALONG.

I READ A RANT OF YOURS ON DATA RUNNING DOWN THE IGOBF AND DISRESPECTED EVERY GREYHOUND MAN IN IRELAND AND WHEN I FIND IT AGAIN I WILL PUT IT ON THIS PAGE AND BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THOSE THAT MISSED IT FIRST TIME AROUND YOU ALSO MADE A STATEMENT ON ANOTHER THREAD WHICH OFFENDED ME BUT I LET IT GO.
YOU HAVE BROUGHT THE GAME INTO DISREPUTE MORE THAN ONCE ON SOCIAL MEDIA IE DATA AND ITS WRITTEN DOWN, HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU ALLOWED TO REPRESENT ANY GOBA NEVER MIND THE FEDERATION ?

ALL GOBA NEED TO UNITE AND IN MY OPINION THE LAST COMMITTEE OF THE IGOBF FAILED TO DO THAT OR BETTER STILL FAILED TO EVEN TRY.

MOVE ASIDE AND LET THE NEW COMMITTEE BE ELECTED AND LET THEM TRY AND BRING ALL GOBA TOGETHER, THEY MIGHT NOT ACHIEVE IT BUT I KNOW FOR SURE THEY WILL WORK THEIR SOCKS OFF TRYING.

DOES THE FACT THE IGOBF HAS 7 GOBA OUT OF ALL THE GOBA IN IRELAND MAKE YOU HAPPY BECAUSE IF I HELD YOUR POSITION ITS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD BE PROUD OF PERSONALLY.

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This is unbelievable bull shit coming from certain elements who have deliberately broke AI rules and regulations to satisfy their own needs, that must be acceptable?? other groups have delivered nothing only talking shops, Certain hypocrites involved do nothing but complain and whinge and condemn the committee members while they sit on the fence not knowing which way to turn and run, quite frankly the whole industry is rotten to the core from the Top to the bottom and it will take a lot more than any IGOBF to clean this cesspit up so stop your whinging and do something constructive for a change, its not Just the board to blame for this mess but the owners as well for putting up with the bullshit that is constantly talking place, Still no new chairman to take over, anyone with any savvy would stay clear and it is proving to be the way IMHO.

FOUND THE STATEMENT DAVE, WOULD THIS STATEMENT BE CLASSED AS BRINGING THE GAME INTO DISREPUTE IF IT HAD OF BEEN MADE BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF ?

FOR YOU TO INSULT GREYHOUND OWNERS WHO PUT YOU IN A POSITION OF RESPONSABILITY WITHIN THE IGOBF SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH FOR YOU TO BE REMOVED AS A GOBA DELIGATE, JUST MY OPINION, ALL GOBA SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND YOU THINK INSULTING AND DISRESPECTING OWNERS IS THE WAY TO DO IT ?