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Jamie Quinlivian
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15 Nov 2015 04:40


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C'mon Mr.Geraghty, you can do better than that.

I just think its strange that when people come on here with a daily report about the numbers in the classified section dropping, it follows with finger pointing at the authorities and their stupid rules.
When the numbers go back up, it's complete silence.
Bit like your beloved cobalt thread, she's a ghost town over there mate, apart from some lame mention of a few horses.



Anthony McVicker
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15 Nov 2015 05:46


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2015 will see a max of 2050 services in Australasia (not litters) which is a 40% drop and will produce apprx 12000 pups


Michael Geraghty
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15 Nov 2015 05:50


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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

C'mon Mr.Geraghty, you can do better than that.

I just think its strange that when people come on here with a daily report about the numbers in the classified section dropping, it follows with finger pointing at the authorities and their stupid rules.
When the numbers go back up, it's complete silence.
Bit like your beloved cobalt thread, she's a ghost town over there mate, apart from some lame mention of a few horses.

You've just posted AGAIN on an irrelevant thread AND mentioned another thread that is "irrelevant"...:(


Graham Haswell
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15 Nov 2015 05:54


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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

C'mon Mr.Geraghty, you can do better than that.

I just think its strange that when people come on here with a daily report about the numbers in the classified section dropping, it follows with finger pointing at the authorities and their stupid rules.
When the numbers go back up, it's complete silence.
Bit like your beloved cobalt thread, she's a ghost town over there mate, apart from some lame mention of a few horses.

Hi Jamie
While I don't have the exact figures for the whelping / puppies registered in other states however I do know the numbers here in Qld as I have had a contract to supply the service of Marking , Ear branding and now Microchipping all puppies in South East Qld as far up as Bundy which is more than 90% of all puppies registered here in Qld.
I have kept exact records for more than 30 years.And I can tell you that only 56 puppies were processed by us last month, it was well over 100 for the corresponding month 2014 and nearly 200 in Oct 2013..
Numbers of 160 to 200 puppies per month were normal up until recently and if that reduction in numbers is not a concern for the future please tell me so.

I talk to all breeders up here on a regular basis and if the new breeding rules, increases in fees for breeding and the removal of the Qdog Incentive scheme and concerns for the future of the industry have not had a direct influence on the decisions of breeders, please tell me that too !!
We all wait in anticipation of the "Complete Silence" you referred to in your previous post.





Anthony McVicker
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15 Nov 2015 05:59


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Hi Graham

Same comment was made recently by a marker/chipper in a region of nsw


Michael Geraghty
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15 Nov 2015 06:07


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graham haswell wrote:

Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

C'mon Mr.Geraghty, you can do better than that.

I just think its strange that when people come on here with a daily report about the numbers in the classified section dropping, it follows with finger pointing at the authorities and their stupid rules.
When the numbers go back up, it's complete silence.
Bit like your beloved cobalt thread, she's a ghost town over there mate, apart from some lame mention of a few horses.

Hi Jamie
While I don't have the exact figures for the whelping / puppies registered in other states however I do know the numbers here in Qld as I have had a contract to supply the service of Marking , Ear branding and now Microchipping all puppies in South East Qld as far up as Bundy which is more than 90% of all puppies registered here in Qld.
I have kept exact records for more than 30 years.And I can tell you that only 56 puppies were processed by us last month, it was well over 100 for the corresponding month 2014 and nearly 200 in Oct 2013..
Numbers of 160 to 200 puppies per month were normal up until recently and if that reduction in numbers is not a concern for the future please tell me so.

I talk to all breeders up here on a regular basis and if the new breeding rules, increases in fees for breeding and the removal of the Qdog Incentive scheme and concerns for the future of the industry have not had a direct influence on the decisions of breeders, please tell me that too !!
We all wait in anticipation of the "Complete Silence" you referred to in your previous post.

There you have it, Mr Irrelevant.
Straight from the horses mouth.
If there are not proactive moves on a major scale shortly, the deafening silence will be coming from abandoned kennels in the near future. Just imagine those figures after a 40% reduction...yep, totally irrelevant.



Steven Martin
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15 Nov 2015 06:12


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Hi Graham. I was going to mention your Qld duties to those that had no idea of your profession, but you beat me to it.

If Graham mentions something about whelping's, especially in his home State then listen.....And he has provided the figures too so he's not p1$$ing in the wind.

Thanks m8.........Steve.

PS...I wouldn't call 80 litters advertised on this site which is UP 20 from July but down 100 on average (180) as being on a winner. 130/140 litters would be more acceptable imo.



Jamie Quinlivian
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15 Nov 2015 06:14


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Guys, if you read my first post, I'm saying that the number of advertised litters for sale on this website has gone up.
That is my complete point.
I posted this because a few pages back, the number of advertised litters for sale on this website were going down and people were equating that with a drop in the entire industry.

Mr.Geraghty, please go back to your personal insults, disguised as poetry. I much prefer that Bro.




Jamie Quinlivian
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15 Nov 2015 06:15


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Steve, you say 130/140 is acceptable.

I say 80 is perfect.

That's the beauty of this country mate, we can disagree without blowing the shyte out of each other.


Michael Barry
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15 Nov 2015 08:14


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Michael Geraghty wrote:

michael barry wrote:

breeding numbers should return to the long term average , around mid 2016 ,

That's great news, Michael!
Will those numbers be for the previous long term average, or the new long term average of a forced reduction of 40%???

michael looking forward, we cant go back , i think long term going forward the numbers will be about 25% down on previous numbers (years) which i think we be fine , closure of a couple of tracks in vic will help maintain a nice balance, its 2015 how can we have 5/10 million dollar tracks putting on one/two shows a week ??????????????

imagine building a five star hotel , that only operates 2 days a week , its time to get real ,

ok we have trials put that out to private enterprise,



Anthony Jeffress
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15 Nov 2015 08:15


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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

Steve, you say 130/140 is acceptable.

I say 80 is perfect.

That's the beauty of this country mate, we can disagree without blowing the shyte out of each other.

I could provide a further 10% (8 litters) if I make the time to put them back on the Data Classifieds. Just not sure I can cope with the "deafening silence" of my phone not ringing ... like the previous time I put them up.

Had them advertised for in The Chase magazine for 4 months ... managed ONE sale, & THREE phonecalls which didn't see a sale eventuate.

Buyers are the thinnest on the ground I've seen them in the past decade ... and there's been some pretty ordinary "lulls" in those earlier years at times too.

The first and most basic rule of SUPPLY AND DEMAND is that a small difference in favour of either category is normal and best. It's when there's a disparity one way or the other that is normally a cause for concern.

And like many, I'm unfortunately seeing PLENTY of cause for ongoing CONCERN.

If you think things are touch and go now, people might get a shock if some "diehards" like us pull the pin altogether. Believe me, things are delicately poised, but don't for a moment think things can't get worse (numbers wise).

Speaking purely from my own perspective, we are battling on at the moment, but the well is running close to dry. We can't keep producing a product that very, very few seem to be wanting at the moment. I hope and believe it can change for the better, but like I implored participants to do leading up to the Ipswich Auction, I think one of the best ways WE as participants can help is to BUY a pup or two. Maybe get an old-time owner back into a share in a hound ; or get a couple of mates together in a Syndicate.

Ps, I don't carry "arms" so people are safe in that respect.




Graham Haswell
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15 Nov 2015 09:09


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michael barry wrote:

Michael Geraghty wrote:

michael barry wrote:

breeding numbers should return to the long term average , around mid 2016 ,

That's great news, Michael!
Will those numbers be for the previous long term average, or the new long term average of a forced reduction of 40%???

michael looking forward, we cant go back , i think long term going forward the numbers will be about 25% down on previous numbers (years) which i think we be fine , closure of a couple of tracks in vic will help maintain a nice balance, its 2015 how can we have 5/10 million dollar tracks putting on one/two shows a week ??????????????

imagine building a five star hotel , that only operates 2 days a week , its time to get real ,

ok we have trials put that out to private enterprise,

Well it must be a lot easier to become licenced to operate a public trialling facility in Victoria than it is in Qld. Just ack John Collins from the Postmans Ridge complex up here.


Michael Geraghty
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15 Nov 2015 09:24


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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

Guys, if you read my first post, I'm saying that the number of advertised litters for sale on this website has gone up.
That is my complete point.
I posted this because a few pages back, the number of advertised litters for sale on this website were going down and people were equating that with a drop in the entire industry.

Mr.Geraghty, please go back to your personal insults, disguised as poetry. I much prefer that Bro.

As you wish...

There was a young man named Quinny
Who rode into town on a skinny
"I'm here to race!" he shouted with might
But the town was empty with no track in sight.

The TAB has a sign on the front door
"Closed down cuz nobody breeds no more."
Quinny rides out of town carefree and snappy
Singing "ooh, ooh ,ooh, hoo, don't worry, be happy.



Michael Bowerman
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15 Nov 2015 09:50


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my take on breeding dropping is nothing to do with live baiting, its the breeders breeding out of stud dogs , that could not throw a snail. how many times can one loose 10k to 15 k in dud litters, and dont tell me it the bitch, because it not,and jamie welcome to the sarcasm of a forum,u cant have an opinion, without being attack,


Michael Geraghty
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15 Nov 2015 10:10


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michael bowerman wrote:

my take on breeding dropping is nothing to do with live baiting, its the breeders breeding out of stud dogs , that could not throw a snail. how many times can one loose 10k to 15 k in dud litters, and dont tell me it the bitch, because it not,and jamie welcome to the sarcasm of a forum,u cant have an opinion, without being attack,

It the bitch.

:)



Jamie Quinlivian
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15 Nov 2015 10:47


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michael bowerman wrote:

my take on breeding dropping is nothing to do with live baiting, its the breeders breeding out of stud dogs , that could not throw a snail. how many times can one loose 10k to 15 k in dud litters, and dont tell me it the bitch, because it not,and jamie welcome to the sarcasm of a forum,u cant have an opinion, without being attack,

Its all good Mick, I've taken a lot more than sarcasm in my time.
Robust debate is good stuff.

Gezza....I like it. I can sleep well now.


Michael Geraghty
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15 Nov 2015 10:54


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:)
I betcha you will fall to sleep with the tune of that song...



Michael Bowerman
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15 Nov 2015 20:37


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Michael Geraghty wrote:

michael bowerman wrote:

my take on breeding dropping is nothing to do with live baiting, its the breeders breeding out of stud dogs , that could not throw a snail. how many times can one loose 10k to 15 k in dud litters, and dont tell me it the bitch, because it not,and jamie welcome to the sarcasm of a forum,u cant have an opinion, without being attack,
it the dog,

It the bitch.

:)

its the dog



Kev Galloway
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15 Nov 2015 20:52


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michael bowerman wrote:

Michael Geraghty wrote:

michael bowerman wrote:

my take on breeding dropping is nothing to do with live baiting, its the breeders breeding out of stud dogs , that could not throw a snail. how many times can one loose 10k to 15 k in dud litters, and dont tell me it the bitch, because it not,and jamie welcome to the sarcasm of a forum,u cant have an opinion, without being attack,
it the dog,

It the bitch.

:)

its the dog


Its the breeder while trying to do the best by his bitch,chooses the WRONG stud for his bitch.


Charles W Mizzi
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15 Nov 2015 22:20


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kev galloway wrote:

michael bowerman wrote:

Michael Geraghty wrote:

michael bowerman wrote:

my take on breeding dropping is nothing to do with live baiting, its the breeders breeding out of stud dogs , that could not throw a snail. how many times can one loose 10k to 15 k in dud litters, and dont tell me it the bitch, because it not,and jamie welcome to the sarcasm of a forum,u cant have an opinion, without being attack,
it the dog,

It the bitch.

:)

its the dog


Its the breeder while trying to do the best by his bitch,chooses the WRONG stud for his bitch.

Exactly Kev, We have a litter now where it has not worked out. There is nothing wrong with the stud, it has not worked with our bitch line.

We made the choice and take responsibility and the financial burden that goes with it, we kept all 9 pups.

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