You wouldn't want to be putting too much importance on the Data Ratings

This Dog, now known as Tyrur Harold has still not been updated on the system.

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He has a derisory rating of 119 for breaking the 550 Track record at Longford and in his first race at Shelbourne a fortnight ago he clocked the 2nd fastest time of the year for the 550 yards.

As a comparison, three dogs in a single puppy race at Sheffield last tuesday were rated over 140.

Not to undermine the three dogs but I am pretty sure that they would only be turning in to the straight when he would be going over the winning line if he was in the same race as them.

The ratings are not worth reading when there are such glaring anomalies.

In fact we have just had a repeat mating with Harolds Mother to Tullymurry Act, pups are now 6 weeks old and in case people think that I am advertising, we had four customers for every pup.

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We have also mated another well bred bitch to him and the pups at 10 months of age are stunning specimens and again we were totally oversubscribed.

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In addition, a Daughter of Badminton Girl and a Daughter of Badminton Maid have both been mated to Tullymurry Act in the past month.

Why is this ?

It's straightforward.

He is one of the three most marketable stud dogs serving and he throws the type of pups that people look forward to racing,

Fastest time of year is Tynwald Baz 28.53 over 500m with a data rating of 125 which is 5 points better than Tyrur Harold which sounds about right.
Cheers Andy

The Sheffield rating are way out of line with what a dog in Ireland has to achieve to get a similar rating.

Airmount Tess got a 117 rating for the Corn Cuchulainn and Swift Burn, A good dog who struggles to win in A1 got a 142 rating for 6 bends on the 30th of May.

That 125 rating for Tynwald Baz would have him breaking Harolds Track Record at Longford by 12 spots, which certainly doesnt sound about right to me but that is only my opinion.

Surely the problem is the "fixed" going that's given in Ireland?

Shelbourne, of course, the going is never ever fast, LOL ...

Regarding the Swift Burn rating over 650m at Sheffield that would be slightly out due to a minus 30 going allowance so it's down to the racing manager on that. Only Droopys live has gone two spots fast for a bitch round Sheffield this year than Swift Burn over 500m and many rated live as one of the fastest bitches in the country at the time. Sheffield host opens almost every week and many big completions so a better reflection than a track that runs a couple of opens a year.

It's all opinions and that's why we have forums. Good luck with the pups and let's hope Harold goes on to win the Irish Derby.

Regards. Andy

You can take it that Tyrur Shay or any other living greyhound could not have clocked 27.81 for the 525 that day, the 525 record is 28.15 and has stood for 12 years.

Time will tell.