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2019 Sporting Press Oaks - Sires
Chris Houlding United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 929 Dogs 10 / Races 3 09 May 2019 10:59
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I was looking through the heats of the Irish oaks this morning to try and get an angle on Sires that throw good bitches having read the recent post about Razldazl Billy and being very interested in breeding. I was amazed to discover that out of the 13 heats comprising of 78 bitches there were a staggering 41 different sires that had been used. There were 24 sires with only 1 bitch with Laughill Blake being the most prolific with 6. I'm not sure if there is any significance to this but it does seem to indicate to me that there are not very many outstanding sires and that getting the right breeding and character traits to suit your bitch should be the main priority.
Stephen Fishwick Ireland (Verified User) Posts 122 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 May 2019 20:56
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Totally agree chris, much of a muchness at the moment, ballymac best has the fav, from not many litters. Looks a sire with a big future
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 10 May 2019 07:08
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I think it reflects the huge expansion of the gene pool in modern day breeding. We used to have a limited number of track sires and the only option was to outcross to coursing lines. I remember when Sand Man was introduced from the US and he had a phenomenal influence on invigorating track lines. These days there is access to US, Aus, Irish and UK sires not to mention those that have been dead for God knows how long.
Keith Elliott United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 214 Dogs 0 / Races 0 10 May 2019 15:08
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chris while your in research mode how about an analysis of the sires of the dams of the entries??keep you out of mischief for a few hrs!!
Chris Houlding United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 929 Dogs 10 / Races 3 11 May 2019 18:29
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Well Keith I have looked through the sires of the dams of all 78 of the 1st round runners in the Oaks and there is
1 sire with 10 runners - HeadBound 1 sire with 6 runners - Westmead Hawk 1 sire with 5 runners - Kinloch Brae 3 sires with 4 runners - Royal Impact/Hondo Black/Ballymac Maeve 5 sires with 3 runners - College Causeway/Crash/Scolari me Daddy Droopys Scolari/Wheres Pedro 5 sires with 2 runners - Cashen Legend/Makeshift/Premier Fantasy/ Romeo Recruit/Brett Lee 20 sires with 1 runner -
Hope this is of some interest !
Barrie Backhurst United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 323 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 May 2019 22:57
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Chris taking your figures, I have compared the number of runners against the number of 2nd offspring listed on GD and included the year of birth. Make of it what you will
2nd off Runners Coefficient Dam Sire DOB 37 2 0.054054054054054 Romeo Recruit 2010 401 3 0.007481296758105 Scolari Me Daddy2007 325 2 0.006153846153846 Cashen Legend 2006 360 2 0.005555555555556 Makeshift 2008 1091 3 0.002749770852429 College Causeway2006 1808 4 0.002212389380531 Royal Impact 2000 5388 10 0.001855976243504 Head Bound 2000 3031 5 0.001649620587265 Kinloch Brae 2005 2745 4 0.001457194899818 Ballymac Maeve 2004 4038 4 0.000990589400693 Hondo Black 1999 6134 6 0.000978154548419 Westmead Hawk 2003 3344 3 0.000897129186603 Droopys Scolari 2003 3570 3 0.000840336134454 Crash 2002 4770 3 0.00062893081761 Wheres Pedro 2002 5012 2 0.000399042298484 Premier Fantasy 2002 10088 2 0.000198255352895 Brett Lee 1999
edit: the table distorted on posting, hopefully it makes enough sense
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