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Perfect Marshall v Fernando Balepage  1 2 3 


Darren Leeson
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06 Oct 2020 07:20


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Suggest Banjo Boy females could suit Perfect Marshall as well...



Kevin Wright
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06 Oct 2020 07:50


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I thought this was a joke comparing Perfect Marshal to Fernando Bale it is a insult to FB

Just my honest Opinion ..Thirstyboy



Tony Gallagher
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06 Oct 2020 08:04


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Darren, do you have any connection whatsoever with Perfect Marshall or have you any future plans for this dog apart from taking a bitch to him?


Sandro Bechini
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06 Oct 2020 08:09


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Kevin Wright wrote:

I thought this was a joke comparing Perfect Marshal to Fernando Bale it is a insult to FB

Just my honest Opinion ..Thirstyboy

Just for the record Thirstyboy on the other forum is Scott Jackson



Kevin Wright
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06 Oct 2020 08:15


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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

I thought this was a joke comparing Perfect Marshal to Fernando Bale it is a insult to FB

Just my honest Opinion ..Thirstyboy

Just for the record Thirstyboy on the other forum is Scott Jackson


Sandro thanks for that info Scotty Jackson must be bum buds with that little

leprechaun bald man lordy ..


Paul Dicks
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06 Oct 2020 08:46


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Kevin Wright wrote:

Sandro Bechini wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

I thought this was a joke comparing Perfect Marshal to Fernando Bale it is a insult to FB

Just my honest Opinion ..Thirstyboy

Just for the record Thirstyboy on the other forum is Scott Jackson


Sandro thanks for that info Scotty Jackson must be bum buds with that little

leprechaun bald man lordy ..

Your paranoia about people on other forums is misplaced yet again, Kevin. Lol



Paul Dicks
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Tony Gallagher wrote:

Darren Leeson wrote:

Sandro, but thats just your opinion. Theres plenty of correlation between Kelsos Fusileer and Kinloch Brae. You wouldnt get the quality of Sennachie and Farmer Beach if there wasnt good correlation between the sires. They make up a massive amount of the pedigree of Sennachie and Farmer Beach.

Relying on the red colours of Greyhound-Data and its % are flawed to the extreme, but again thats just my opinion...each to their own....

Darren your system of going back many generations is more flawed.

Picking out a dog that has been successful and following it back to get something that fits your beliefs is not the way forward to choose a stud dog. I believe any success including yours is on the capability of the brood bitch to throw.

All anyone needs is a good bitch from a great litter who is from a good bitch line and I don't mean more than 6 generation ago and there is a good chance she will throw good dogs. The stud dog to choose comes into it if your bitch is line bred, in bred or is an outcross. If your bitch is line bred or inbreed I would good to a complete outcross. If your bitch is an outcross you can make the decision whether to strengthen the line or outcross. The other choice you have is to go to the most popular sire at the time as this will help you sell the pups.

Sorry but I really think breeding is not as complicated as it is made out to be. I am sure those that came before us and before the internet and Greyhound-Data made much simpler choices so it surprises me that some of todays theories are built on selections many years ago long before DNA and long before any real research.

Couldn't agree more with this post. Interestingly I voiced the same opinions on another thread and got shouted down. Lol




Tony Gallagher
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06 Oct 2020 09:21


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Hi Darren, thank you for your answer.


Sandro Bechini
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06 Oct 2020 10:11


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Kevin Wright wrote:

Sandro Bechini wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

I thought this was a joke comparing Perfect Marshal to Fernando Bale it is a insult to FB

Just my honest Opinion ..Thirstyboy

Just for the record Thirstyboy on the other forum is Scott Jackson


Sandro thanks for that info Scotty Jackson must be bum buds with that little

leprechaun bald man lordy ..

Kevin

not sure who you are referring to, but I am just clearing up the ThirstyBoy issue




Graham Moscow
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07 Oct 2020 20:39


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Principles of breeding
Speed to Speed
Success breeds success majority of the time
Gene Influence is from first 3 generations of pedigree
Dam is 75% of gene influence
Damline history / origins. How many generations for outcross implemented . Key maternal sires. Classic crosses, did damline flatten / reignite, offspring from damline
Any suspect sires ( false) Every damline tells a story it pays to look way back.

( Analogy. Tall Skyscrapers need deep solid foundation)

Ive said before Sires are Icing on the pedigree cake. ( Damline)

Darren Sandro Tony I cant disagree with any of your posts on this topic, they are all on the money. Just everyone is different. You all know Im a chess player, my opening repertoire is also played by thousands of others chess players and we all play different variations of that opening that we think is best.
Fellas you remind me of chess masters debating whats the best variation of the Ruy Lopez. Ha ha
Note: in chess there is no luck. But in Greyhound breeding you need luck




Darren Leeson
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After having a post removed for apparent advertising...when I have no financial interest in any stud dog. Not sure what I can and cant post in this topic?? As I post in many stud dogs topics e.g Magical Bale I said he looks ready-made for Fabregas females bringing in the biggest cross in Ireland the past 10 years...Staplers Jo into Larkhill Jo. So I dont play favourites!

I merely see benefit for the breed to have plenty of stud dogs used and IF people cant afford Fernando Bale reckon you can get a lot of what Fernando Bale has pedigree-wise in Perfect Marshall...just my opinion!

We were discussing how much alike Kinloch Brae and Kelsos Fusileer correlate with each other.

All Americans show that Kinloch Brae crossed with Kelsos Fusileer play their part in Sennachie and Farmor Beach being as good as they are!

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