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Pre-breaker course
Samantha Hughes Australia (Verified User) Posts 25 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Jan 2023 01:04
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Hi all,
Just wondering, how many of you rate/required a pre-breaker course? what does that usually entail? VS sending dogs straight to be breakers from the paddock.
From the rearers I've been involved with both don't do a pre-breaker courses.
Nathan Trigg Australia (Verified User) Posts 516 Dogs 20 / Races 28 04 Jan 2023 10:24
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Hi Sam,
It might depend on how your breaker expects them to come. In my opinion and I know others differ but I like mine to handle ok by the collar and be showing some focus before they go away.
I think in this day and age unless they are naturals they need every bit of the four weeks to ensure there broken in correctly.
We do this pre work ourselves so it makes it a bit easier, if you have the opportunity to have this done it cant do any harm.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 04 Jan 2023 12:05
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Ive never had a young dog not break in and chase off my rearers property. Pedigree is great, but its ALL about the rearing! Never settle for anything, but a dog chasing at break in!
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 04 Jan 2023 18:00
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Hey Samantha , I think pre breaking starts when the pups are three to four months old. Introduced to toys encouraged to chase , and if mum is present she can be put in a yard next to the pups where shes visible to them and given the toy also. The pups will understand these teachings from their mother much better than our teachings. Her smell she gives off when excited and biting a teaser are all noticeable to pups. An old starting box ( not necessarily working ) can be placed in the yard with the pups so they can investigate ( and they will ) and become comfortable with the box. Mum can be put through the box also which will build their confidence. If available a game in the bullring at this age will also be beneficial. All pups should be put in at one time though as they are more likely to encourage each other and work as a pack and again if mum can show them first then even better. A trip or two to a track after these initial teachings to watch dogs trial is also a good idea. At six months and onwards they should be encouraged to chase a drag short distances along with the bullring work which can now be a minimum of two to three pups at a time noting which pups have been the keenest and pairing then with less motivated pups. Once their all keen and chasing the drag they can be started to be slipped through the boxes ( lid open ) in the bullring ,usually with a sibling or two already in the ring. Simply introduce the next pup into the game through the open box and alternate this procedure so all pups go through the box but always with a couple of pups already working the ring. Pups should be able to complete this process singularly by eight months but should utilise their mother again for this first go , letting them work together in the bullring. Its a bit of work but will be very rewarding by the time you need to get them broken in as they will be comfortable and confident during the break in and will possibly be just learning to gallop around a track. Hope this helps and they are only my opinions. I think by utilising their mother for as many teachings as possible is the best way and something we often forget about once weaned. Wild dogs learn everything from their mother so its not rocket science. Cheers
Hayden Gilders Australia (Verified User) Posts 993 Dogs 29 / Races 0 06 Jan 2023 23:18
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michael worth wrote:
Hey Samantha , I think pre breaking starts when the pups are three to four months old. Introduced to toys encouraged to chase , and if mum is present she can be put in a yard next to the pups where shes visible to them and given the toy also. The pups will understand these teachings from their mother much better than our teachings. Her smell she gives off when excited and biting a teaser are all noticeable to pups. An old starting box ( not necessarily working ) can be placed in the yard with the pups so they can investigate ( and they will ) and become comfortable with the box. Mum can be put through the box also which will build their confidence. If available a game in the bullring at this age will also be beneficial. All pups should be put in at one time though as they are more likely to encourage each other and work as a pack and again if mum can show them first then even better. A trip or two to a track after these initial teachings to watch dogs trial is also a good idea. At six months and onwards they should be encouraged to chase a drag short distances along with the bullring work which can now be a minimum of two to three pups at a time noting which pups have been the keenest and pairing then with less motivated pups. Once their all keen and chasing the drag they can be started to be slipped through the boxes ( lid open ) in the bullring ,usually with a sibling or two already in the ring. Simply introduce the next pup into the game through the open box and alternate this procedure so all pups go through the box but always with a couple of pups already working the ring. Pups should be able to complete this process singularly by eight months but should utilise their mother again for this first go , letting them work together in the bullring. Its a bit of work but will be very rewarding by the time you need to get them broken in as they will be comfortable and confident during the break in and will possibly be just learning to gallop around a track. Hope this helps and they are only my opinions. I think by utilising their mother for as many teachings as possible is the best way and something we often forget about once weaned. Wild dogs learn everything from their mother so its not rocket science. Cheers
Does the process work on My Redeemer pups?
Russ Forno Australia (Verified User) Posts 274 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jan 2023 09:11
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Hayden, got a Redeemer, only one and a bitch. So much like Fernando bitches , pee funny, sullen, defiant, stand offish, but eventually turn into demon chasers and wonderful chasers. Like i said only one, but the similarities are remarkable.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 07 Jan 2023 21:50
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Sorry Hayden, some will always be pets. But I feel its a good start. Cheers
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 08 Jan 2023 00:39
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michael worth wrote:
Hey Samantha , I think pre breaking starts when the pups are three to four months old. Introduced to toys encouraged to chase , and if mum is present she can be put in a yard next to the pups where shes visible to them and given the toy also. The pups will understand these teachings from their mother much better than our teachings. Her smell she gives off when excited and biting a teaser are all noticeable to pups. An old starting box ( not necessarily working ) can be placed in the yard with the pups so they can investigate ( and they will ) and become comfortable with the box. Mum can be put through the box also which will build their confidence. If available a game in the bullring at this age will also be beneficial. All pups should be put in at one time though as they are more likely to encourage each other and work as a pack and again if mum can show them first then even better. A trip or two to a track after these initial teachings to watch dogs trial is also a good idea. At six months and onwards they should be encouraged to chase a drag short distances along with the bullring work which can now be a minimum of two to three pups at a time noting which pups have been the keenest and pairing then with less motivated pups. Once their all keen and chasing the drag they can be started to be slipped through the boxes ( lid open ) in the bullring ,usually with a sibling or two already in the ring. Simply introduce the next pup into the game through the open box and alternate this procedure so all pups go through the box but always with a couple of pups already working the ring. Pups should be able to complete this process singularly by eight months but should utilise their mother again for this first go , letting them work together in the bullring. Its a bit of work but will be very rewarding by the time you need to get them broken in as they will be comfortable and confident during the break in and will possibly be just learning to gallop around a track. Hope this helps and they are only my opinions. I think by utilising their mother for as many teachings as possible is the best way and something we often forget about once weaned. Wild dogs learn everything from their mother so its not rocket science. Cheers
I don't think you can go too far wrong with that approach
And yes. some are just destined to be pets
Samantha Hughes Australia (Verified User) Posts 25 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Jan 2023 05:28
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Thanks everybody for your responses, it's all a learning process for me. In NSW, where would you all rate as the best place for rearing & breakers? also, does anyone know of anyone that does a pre-breaker course? preferably South West Sydney.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 12 Jan 2023 23:43
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Samantha Hughes wrote:
Hi all,
Just wondering, how many of you rate/required a pre-breaker course? what does that usually entail? VS sending dogs straight to be breakers from the paddock.
From the rearers I've been involved with both don't do a pre-breaker courses.
Do you have a kennel ? Maybe just do it yourself , your pup will get the best opportunity that way.
Samantha Hughes Australia (Verified User) Posts 25 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 Jan 2023 05:13
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Hi Robynne, Unfortunately not. My backyard is a size of a shoebox.
Nathan Trigg Australia (Verified User) Posts 516 Dogs 20 / Races 28 13 Jan 2023 07:28
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Hi Samantha,
The below add was in the classifieds, it may be a starting point if location suits.
Greyhound Rearing South West Sydney Description greyhound rearing available within western sydney (Cobbitty) large rearing yards
quality feeds, meats and supplement's given
straight work, drag and bull ring available
only available for 1 litter, minimum 5 pups $80 per week available after 04/01/2023
pre-breakers 4 week course available $140 per week, after 04/01/2023
contact Rad 0419 406 121
Contact Name Rad State New South Wales Contact Address Australia Phone 0419 406 121 email contact now! Ad posted by Lance Day (ad posted on 09-Jan-23)
Samantha Hughes Australia (Verified User) Posts 25 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Jan 2023 06:06
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Thanks Nathan, I missed that add suitable with the location too.
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