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Fair chance these pups would posses all the qualities needed to be super star !!
First 4 generations, the only red is 2x4 Primo Uno. 5th generation nearly all red with duplications in abundance. IF Tommy throws good then his a candidate
Is it ?? Another candidate for speck savers , barcia 2 x3 !?!?
Now that weve confirmed my original statement being correct and discovered primo 2x4 and barcia 2x3 and the whole 5th gen near duplicated . Back to what I was asking with the tesio intensity percentages nearing 88% ?
Cheers Ryan
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 13 Feb 2023 06:50
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Looking at her bottom line, it could do with what out cross blood Aston Rupee brings to the table ,also the double cross of Barcia bale wont go astray.. The fastest dog in the world and the fastest bitch in the world .could the deterrent to FB be the litter her mother had to FB.?
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 13 Feb 2023 07:26
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Looking at her bottom line ,it could do with what out cross blood Aston Rupee brings to the table ,also the double cross of Barcia bale wont go astray..
William Porterfield United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 18 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 Feb 2023 10:58
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Surely orson allen would have to be considered,his sires 3 top offspring are austrailian orson-striker light-aston ru pee not a bad cv, this mating brings in barcias sister a tesio staple together. speed and strenth from the past bringing it forward for utilization into this generation.Fernando is certainly a great call and she probably will end up there. but theres enough of his ofspring in australia.kc gives another option when breeding on,droopys sydney is a complete out cross a it could take 3 gens or so to be affective. kc gives the mating 2 18%s it also keeps a lot of the original blood pool while bringing in a very proven cross. just a opinion dont know how to display it
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 13 Feb 2023 19:20
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Well said William. I think they may go with Aston Rupee, or Aussie infrared could be a chance.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Feb 2023 21:02
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Perhaps she could add speed to an All Distance Greyhound to produce the likes of Fanta Bale??
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 14 Feb 2023 21:13
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Ugh.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Feb 2023 22:47
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The Meaning of Ugh? /ˈʌg/ interjection. Britannica Dictionary definition of UGH. informal. used to show that you are annoyed, disgusted, or upset about something.
What has upset you Jack?
Wade Gallagher Australia (Verified User) Posts 372 Dogs 117 / Races 0 15 Feb 2023 02:42
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I'd put money on her first litter being KC And All and then letting it ride that her 2nd litter is Fernando Bale.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 15 Feb 2023 02:45
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Wade Gallagher wrote:
I'd put money on her first litter being KC And All and then letting it ride that her 2nd litter is Fernando Bale.
If the straw was available he would be the one
Trent Wrigley Australia (Verified User) Posts 1549 Dogs 40 / Races 3 15 Feb 2023 02:57
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https:/ CLICK HERE I bet they have straw there for her, as they have sent a few of there girls to him and have had great size litters of late.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 15 Feb 2023 04:38
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Ugh in surprise. Why would you take the world's fastest bitch to any other dog than a selection of the world fastest sire .looking at her breeding I think she needs some imported blood she would get with AR sire KC and all.Trents call could be a smoky.I still like AR, Aussie IFR F.B which might be a worry as WSF mother went to FB not the greatest litter .
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Feb 2023 08:34
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Jack perhaps your answer is here
I always remember the answer the Legendary Paul Wheeler gave when asked why Highly Blessed never threw a Champion. He said there was nothing as fast as her at the time, and that had the likes of Brett Lee been around the story could have been different. Is there a faster Greyhound Dog around quicker than Wow She's Fast. Not a length quicker but several lengths??
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 13 Mar 2024 20:52
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And she has gone to an outcross sire in Bella Infrared. Which considering her pedigree, should hardly be surprising!
Im interested to see see how many outcross matings they might do with her
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 13 Mar 2024 22:04
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Peter Bryce wrote:
Jack perhaps your answer is here
I always remember the answer the Legendary Paul Wheeler gave when asked why Highly Blessed never threw a Champion. He said there was nothing as fast as her at the time, and that had the likes of Brett Lee been around the story could have been different. Is there a faster Greyhound Dog around quicker than Wow She's Fast. Not a length quicker but several lengths??
On that basis every bitch should be going to Allen Deed , as there hasn't been a dog that has been able to break his track record at The Meadows since 2015 including the GOAT himself
I am sure PAW put more thought and was more systemic in his sire selection
Significantly he hardly used Brett Lee himself in his breeding program , in about 750 matings, PAW used him 8 times, with Cromlah Bale probably being his best result from those matings
Georgina, Suellen, Mirada, Ashton, Sharmon, Alarming, Turismo & Vista Bale with moderate results
However , Wheeler family have used Allen Deed 28 times with very good results including the recent litter containing Yachi Bale and Zoha Bale and others
Anyway, just an interesting observation
And good to see the Sprods thinking outside the square a bit and using a prime outcross dog like Bella Infrared who is proven very well to Australian bloodlines
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 15 Mar 2024 03:31
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I can't recall the Wheeler's ever using the legendary import Waverly Supreme !
What might have been ?
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 15 Mar 2024 10:55
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Mark Staines wrote:
I can't recall the Wheeler's ever using the legendary import Waverly Supreme !
What might have been ?
Maybe they didnt want to do a full outcross so soon, after Proper Streak? As they used semi-outcross World Acclaim to great success.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 15 Mar 2024 13:06
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Maybe ?
Another interesting observation, 1 Wheeler Bitch Star Lee was sent to another Legendary sire in Brother Fox.
Yet the Wheelers didn't hesitate using son's of Brother Fox Amerigo Man & West Cape !
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 15 Mar 2024 21:49
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Id say a good bet.
Other than Jay Bee Bale winning the Dapto 100,000. Did PAW have great success with the litter of the century?
Blazing Willow litter probably the best of the dam line to produce to them.
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
