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Jack Ogilvie
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Who would you use??That was sire? Me I like Fernando bale. Like the 18.8 primo uno



Darren Leeson
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See theres a Spiral Nikita vial for sale - shed pull it off with him I reckon - https:/ CLICK HERE


William Porterfield
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12 Feb 2023 13:10


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orson allen looks very good.



Graham Moscow
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Irresistible IMO

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Paul Dicks
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12 Feb 2023 17:24


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Graham Moscow wrote:

Irresistible IMO

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Absolutely has to be. Why would you put her to a dog with less ability than herself?


David Bidner
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12 Feb 2023 18:27


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Hi there guys:
Great topic,I am no expert by any means.so I will just sit back and read.but just curious.who would you guys pick out of say older sires.



Jack Ogilvie
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I agree Graham, there is no way they will go to an unproven sire. They will go to a top5 worldwide sire.But the number 1 that suits her is Fernando.could already have one ready.


Sandro Bechini
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12 Feb 2023 21:46


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Paul Dicks wrote:

Graham Moscow wrote:

Irresistible IMO

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Absolutely has to be. Why would you put her to a dog with less ability than herself?

On that basis you could go to any sire who has holds a city track record

So why not Allen Deed, (The Meadows Record Holder), Sennachie, (AP Record holder), Dyna double One (600m city track record Holder) or even Shakey Jakey (WP Record Holder), I would say Aston Rupee (Sandown) (2 x 3 Barcia Bale)?

I am not saying Fernando Bale is not worthy, but why doesn't anyone look at her bloodlines and try to find the best match for her rather than blindly pointing at Fernando Bale

After all she has won $2.4m in prizemoney, its not like they need the money from pup sales


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Darren Leeson wrote:

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See theres a Spiral Nikita vial for sale - shed pull it off with him I reckon - https:/ CLICK HERE

Maybe even a spare Droopys Sydney vial




Graham Moscow
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Paul Dicks wrote:

Graham Moscow wrote:

Irresistible IMO

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Fernando x MBF dam. Blindly pointing ? Really?
Sandro maybe your opinion but a unsound opinion
Absolutely has to be. Why would you put her to a dog with less ability than herself?

On that basis you could go to any sire who has holds a city track record

So why not Allen Deed, (The Meadows Record Holder), Sennachie, (AP Record holder), Dyna double One (600m city track record Holder) or even Shakey Jakey (WP Record Holder), I would say Aston Rupee (Sandown) (2 x 3 Barcia Bale)?

I am not saying Fernando Bale is not worthy, but why doesn't anyone look at her bloodlines and try to find the best match for her rather than blindly pointing at Fernando Bale

After all she has won $2.4m in prizemoney, its not like they need the money from pup sales





Sandro Bechini
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12 Feb 2023 22:25


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Graham Moscow wrote:

Sandro Bechini wrote:

Paul Dicks wrote:

Graham Moscow wrote:

Irresistible IMO

https:/ CLICK HERE

Fernando x MBF dam. Blindly pointing ? Really?
Sandro maybe your opinion but a unsound opinion
Absolutely has to be. Why would you put her to a dog with less ability than herself?

On that basis you could go to any sire who has holds a city track record

So why not Allen Deed, (The Meadows Record Holder), Sennachie, (AP Record holder), Dyna double One (600m city track record Holder) or even Shakey Jakey (WP Record Holder), I would say Aston Rupee (Sandown) (2 x 3 Barcia Bale)?

I am not saying Fernando Bale is not worthy, but why doesn't anyone look at her bloodlines and try to find the best match for her rather than blindly pointing at Fernando Bale

After all she has won $2.4m in prizemoney, its not like they need the money from pup sales

Graeme, you have misunderstood my point.

I wasn't giving a negative or a positive opinion on whether Fernando was suitable or not.

The question was - Why go to a dog of lesser ability?

My point is that there are dogs available with higher racing ability than her i.e. metropolitan track record holders that could be considered ON THAT BASIS

I can't see why you need to pull me up on that and criticize my post

If we are talking about SIRING ABILITY Fernando Bale is an obvious choice but is not the only solution to this question

Why not source a Brett Lee Vial then?

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Or source a Bella Infrared vial

https:/ CLICK HERE
Or a Collision vial

https:/ CLICK HERE
or the best sire this country has seen for 20 years on a percentage basis

KC & All

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Darren Leeson
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Darren Leeson wrote:

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See theres a Spiral Nikita vial for sale - shed pull it off with him I reckon - https:/ CLICK HERE

Maybe even a spare Droopys Sydney vial

Haha mate, wed want half the litter PMSL

I agree with you, the no brainer is Fernando - over MBF, Barcia. I like you, was more having a look at her bloodlines and seeing what else could work with her.

How about her second mating or does she just keep going back to Fernando?

IMO, shes so loaded up in like pedigree traits, shes really open to outcross sires.




Graham Moscow
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12 Feb 2023 23:32


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Apologies Sandro :)




Nathan Bendeich
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They will use Fernando then Aston Rupee

Personally Id like to see some good old fashioned massive duplication and line breeding

https:/ CLICK HERE

Fair chance these pups would posses all the qualities needed to be super star !!


Paul Dicks
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Paul Dicks wrote:

Graham Moscow wrote:

Irresistible IMO

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Absolutely has to be. Why would you put her to a dog with less ability than herself?

Sandro, read what I said. None of the sires you mentioned had more ability the WSF. The closest is definitely the GOAT. Besides that I think the pedigree matches nicely.




Nathan Bendeich
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Nathan Bendeich wrote:

They will use Fernando then Aston Rupee

Personally Id like to see some good old fashioned massive duplication and line breeding

https:/ CLICK HERE

Fair chance these pups would posses all the qualities needed to be super star !!

Would there be any 88% tesio intensity cross duplications in this mating Ryan ?



Sandro Bechini
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Paul Dicks wrote:

Paul Dicks wrote:

Graham Moscow wrote:

Irresistible IMO

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Absolutely has to be. Why would you put her to a dog with less ability than herself?

Sandro, read what I said. None of the sires you mentioned had more ability the WSF. The closest is definitely the GOAT. Besides that I think the pedigree matches nicely.

I did.

"Why would you put her to a dog with less ability than herself?"

I can only assume racing ability as she is not at stud

I think Brett Lee and Brother Fox would have given her a run for her money as well as all the other ones I mentioned




Peter Bryce
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I always remember the answer the Legendary Paul Wheeler gave when asked why Highly Blessed never threw a Champion.
He said there was nothing as fast as her at the time, and that had the likes of Brett Lee been around the story could have been different.
Is there a faster Greyhound Dog around quicker than Wow She's Fast.
Not a length quicker but several lengths??




Graham Moscow
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Nathan Bendeich wrote:

They will use Fernando then Aston Rupee

Personally Id like to see some good old fashioned massive duplication and line breeding
I

https:/ CLICK HERE

Fair chance these pups would posses all the qualities needed to be super star !!

First 4 generations, the only red is 2x4 Primo Uno. 5th generation nearly all red with duplications in abundance. IF Tommy throws good then his a candidate

https:/ CLICK HERE



Peter Bryce
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Could there be a hint here given Wow Shes Fast has passed Fanta Bale's Prizemoney.
Sires to Fanta Bale??
Who are the fastest greyhounds in Australia?
Fanta Bale is the best Australian greyhound of all time. The greyhound has won $1,365,175 in the races with a 42-9-5 record in 63 races. Since

Record-breaking Fanta has 'a heart like I've never seen'
4 Mar 2018 Wheeler said Fanta Bale, who is the only Australian greyhound to win Group 1s as a sprinter, middle and staying performer, has defied all logic ...



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