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Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 10 Apr 2023 12:08
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Gee Snow Report what a wonderful H.P. Dog he was, one of my all time favourites !
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 10 Apr 2023 12:18
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Same here Mark. Having Harold Park and Wenty, created so much interest. Snow Report dominated HP and stayed away from Wenty for ages. Then when he finally ventured to Wenty, the buzz around his debut and whether hed handle Wenty made the sport great. Of course he debuted in a fast 30.95 and showed he was just a great dog. But, around HP he was scintillating! Cant wait for city racing once again around the big horseshoe tracks.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 10 Apr 2023 12:44
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Yes for sure !
The Ringer was another H.P. superstar that was a favourite of mine !
How good was that Fast Sapphire x Supreme Dot Litter, those were the days !
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 10 Apr 2023 12:58
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Freakish - repeat delivers Holstein Boy and then the sister Myalona delivers Memories Gate - all to the great Fast Sapphire!
Indeed they were!! Shame we lost the Johns from the industry!! Still remember Kevin telling this teen at the time Memories Gate was a get on from 1 or 8 at HP.
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 10 Apr 2023 17:40
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Many a time experts can explain why there is fast ones in a litter via abc But don't explain why in the litter the slow ones are slow
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 10 Apr 2023 19:38
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Wayne Garner wrote:
Many a time experts can explain why there is fast ones in a litter via abc But don't explain why in the litter the slow ones are slow
;-)
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 10 Apr 2023 19:40
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Matt Griffiths wrote:
Tony Digiorgio wrote:
Can someone tell us which dog will win the first at Nowra today and why?
Box 3
Matt, You forgot to look at the Xy factor in the 25th generation.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 10 Apr 2023 20:11
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Wayne and Tony. You both make outstanding points on this topic
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 10 Apr 2023 20:49
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Wayne and Tony. You both make outstanding points on this topic
Just my observations Paul Slow dog carry the same xzy in there blood as the fast ones But some people only realise the xzy or yzx after the fast ones win
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 10 Apr 2023 21:05
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Wayne Garner wrote:
Many a time experts can explain why there is fast ones in a litter via abc But don't explain why in the litter the slow ones are slow
They dont all get the exact same thing. Why putting your money where your mouth is, is the great leveller!
Were all trying to have an educated guess - Paul Wheeler, Mike Ivers, Liam Dowling are no different. Why, they also breed plenty of dud litters, even from the same top brood. The difference between all breeders, being how closer to educated v guessing are we all?
Again, burning your own money to find out, is the only way to go!
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 10 Apr 2023 21:27
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Darren Leeson wrote:
Wayne Garner wrote:
Many a time experts can explain why there is fast ones in a litter via abc But don't explain why in the litter the slow ones are slow
They dont all get the exact same thing. Why putting your money where your mouth is, is the great leveller!
Were all trying to have an educated guess - Paul Wheeler, Mike Ivers, Liam Dowling are no different. Why, they also breed plenty of dud litters, even from the same top brood. The difference between all breeders, being how closer to educated v guessing are we all?
Again, burning your own money to find out, is the only way to go!
I have been there n burned my money n made money at same time Good and bad Iv bred some fast n some super slow But sometimes if ya get it wrong Ya not only burn ya own money Ya burn others who buy rare n race as well
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 10 Apr 2023 21:31
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Incorrect Wayne. You never burn anyone elses money! They use their own educated v guessing to determine why they are buying from one litter v another litter. Its all on them!
Know many a person burnt buying so called fast ready to race dogs. One bloke spent $30k on a fast break in, so far has about $8k return from his 50/50 training deal at now 3.5 years of age.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 10 Apr 2023 21:48
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At the end of day the we can say one thing about Breeding Theories. They are just that, breeding "Theories" not breeding "Laws". We can pontificate and surmise until the cows come home. In truth we are all using educated guesses and hoping for the best. If we had the answers, we wouldn't be chatting on Greyhound data about it. We would be actually doing it.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 10 Apr 2023 22:41
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Agree, and why rearing is the quintessential part of the entire process. Because, whether your pup is Group class or not. As long as it chases, youre a great chance of getting it to the race track and winning races. Just at what level being the question! However, with prize money so good these days. Easy to get your money back or turn a profit when the rearer has done their job to the fullest.
We sold West End Girl as a pre-trainer for $2850 and she went on and won just over the 300s alone $25k. Why? Because my rearer put in the effort to get that result. Make sure youre buying something that boxes, chases and bites on and youre almost guaranteed to at least get your money back, most likely a lot more. As you know theyve been reared to the fullest!
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
