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Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 16 May 2023 11:46
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Has any one got any idea the cost to fly a greyhound to the USA to be rehomed It seem a crazy idea but would they need quarantine on arrival like a normal racing dog or brood Or do they get a free pass
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 16 May 2023 11:56
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The way I see it It would cost around $4000 + to send a dog to the USA So if they send 100 dogs in say 12mths that's $400,000 This could end up costing greyhound industry millions to do this
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 16 May 2023 13:27
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I was told $3500 to go on the list to the US, which is seperate to the general GAP list. But, that was before this announcement. So hopefully a deal for greater quantity reduces the expense somewhat?
Jason Lymbery Australia (Verified User) Posts 429 Dogs 12 / Races 0 16 May 2023 23:03
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Put a levy on the prize money, whatever needs to be done
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 16 May 2023 23:14
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How about put a levy on ever litter n pup born n start making breeders responsible for the pups they breed regardless if they own or sell them No point putting a levy on prizemoney if the gap dogs don't race or make it to a track
Jason Lymbery Australia (Verified User) Posts 429 Dogs 12 / Races 0 16 May 2023 23:38
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Whatever needs to be done my friend
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 16 May 2023 23:54
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Jason Lymbery wrote:
Whatever needs to be done my friend
I agree Jason The powers who control the sport need to think what needs to be done to fund it It's not only airfares to fly dogs to the USA They need to be trained or what ever they do to calm racing dogs down to become pets Then the housing n feeding of these dogs before they do end up in the USA As I say At $4000 average 10 to a hundred dogs It's going to cost good money n I'm sure there us way more then just 100 gap dogs each yr
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 17 May 2023 00:04
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Wayne Garner wrote:
Jason Lymbery wrote:
Whatever needs to be done my friend
I agree Jason The powers who control the sport need to think what needs to be done to fund it It's not only airfares to fly dogs to the USA They need to be trained or what ever they do to calm racing dogs down to become pets Then the housing n feeding of these dogs before they do end up in the USA As I say At $4000 average 10 to a hundred dogs It's going to cost good money n I'm sure there us way more then just 100 gap dogs each yr
Thats what the now defunct Hunter Valley facility was all about
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 17 May 2023 00:20
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Any idea on how much was waisted doing that sandro Just looking classifieds here on gd There is near 40 pups forsake just on the first pages of 8 Now is the problems The number of pups born each yr Or the non chasing n fighters that don't make a racing career Is it the breeders fault Or Authority fault for putting so many restrictions on breaking in ect
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 17 May 2023 02:12
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Wayne Garner wrote:
Any idea on how much was waisted doing that sandro Just looking classifieds here on gd There is near 40 pups forsake just on the first pages of 8 Now is the problems The number of pups born each yr Or the non chasing n fighters that don't make a racing career Is it the breeders fault Or Authority fault for putting so many restrictions on breaking in ect
No idea Wayne
I don;t know if they will show a profit on it or recover all the money they spent on it, if it is re-sold
They would have spent money on DA fees, architectural and landscaping plan and other town planning costs, post-purchase
Rod Hampton Australia Posts 1627 Dogs 2993 / Races 11820 17 May 2023 06:42
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do the people adopting these dogs in US have to pay anything (substantial)?
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 17 May 2023 07:15
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Why the breeder all the time no will breed it cost plenty now with no breeders bonusses. If a levy is put in place it should be on the owner that buys the pups and again at the retirement of the dog .
Jason Lymbery Australia (Verified User) Posts 429 Dogs 12 / Races 0 17 May 2023 07:33
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Breed , race , sell or train , we all in this together
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 17 May 2023 09:10
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Mark Wilcox wrote:
Why the breeder all the time no will breed it cost plenty now with no breeders bonusses. If a levy is put in place it should be on the owner that buys the pups and again at the retirement of the dog .
Because it's the breeders who are breeding all these dogs Maybe put a transfer fee when the pups are transferred As I say Your looking at around 4 million just to send 100 dogs to the usa And every yr there is going to be a 1000 looking to be sent That's huge money over time
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 17 May 2023 10:00
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Wayne Garner wrote:
....Your looking at around 4 million just to send 100 dogs to the usa...
isn't 100 x $4k = $400,000 not $4M ? shld add $4M for 1000 dogs to be sent away isn't actually a lot, when you consider the 20/21 Aus Greyhound Racing National Turnover was apparently $9.4 billion
Michael Eberand Australia (Verified User) Posts 845 Dogs 3 / Races 0 17 May 2023 11:32
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
Wayne Garner wrote:
....Your looking at around 4 million just to send 100 dogs to the usa...
isn't 100 x $4k = $400,000 not $4M ? shld add $4M for 1000 dogs to be sent away isn't actually a lot, when you consider the 20/21 Aus Greyhound Racing National Turnover was apparently $9.4 billion
I agree with Ryan. GRNSW made a profit of $22M in each of the last 2 years . Industry profits not returned nor invested into it . Most owners and trainers are battling rising costs. Until more of those profits are passed on, any levy will just see more people struggling to pay the bills.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 17 May 2023 20:34
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Definitely $6m a year should be allocated to subsidize rehoming and excess greyhounds locally and overseas
Surely. the people taking the dogs in the other countries are paying some of the costs towards this, it cannot fall totally on GRNSW or our participants
Another $6m to increased prizemoney at grass roots and masters levels - that could also be passed partially on as free trialling at racetracks, as they do in Victoria
Another $6m to be used for track & facility & grading upgrades i.e. educational facilities, bull rings, slipping tracks, finish on lures etc
Keep the other $4m in reserve for contingencies
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 17 May 2023 21:36
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I don't think the question is "Can we afford to send retired greyhounds to the US?". The reality is we MUST send dogs to the US to be rehomed or "Can we afford NOT to send retired greyhounds to the US?". The industry is almost at a crisis level with the backlog of retired dogs awaiting rehoming. A lot of them are sitting in kennels meant for race dogs. The cumbersome system GAP has become, is expensive to run and not producing the necessary results. As an industry we have to find alternative methods of rehoming and this US idea is fantastic. I've said it before, the greyhound would make a fantastic companion dog for our own Veterans suffering PTSD. It's a win win situation.
Anthony Lord Australia (Verified User) Posts 39 Dogs 1 / Races 0 18 May 2023 01:05
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no change out of $5500 per dog
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 18 May 2023 03:50
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I'd imagine economies of scale would lead it to being cheaper in the future. What's better paying a few thousand each to rehome retired dogs or closing the industry completely because of animal welfare and rehoming issues? I'd love to know per dog how much it currently costs to rehome through Greyhound Adoption Program. I'll hazard a guess it far more than what this GRNSW scheme is proposing.
You only have to see the number of give-aways being advertised and people looking for trainers to know there is a problem developing here.
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
