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Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 11 Feb 2013 08:02
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michael barry wrote:
michael barry wrote:
Karl Batshon wrote:
Thanks Michael I am torn between sires and just thinking do I take the gamble on a split litter and hope I get an even spread.
im no expert but in my case the semen that was years old produced the six pups , the other two vials drawn recently produced one pup per vial ,
perhaps years ago the semen wasnt stretched so far lolllllllllllllll
just to update this topic , we lost the bitch from puzzle prize early in the peice,
six pups went to mc namaras for breakin, 5 royal assassins and the meticulos dog, picked them up yesterday all went within one and a half lengths of each other , in 18.50 the meticulos dog quickest first split , one of the royal assassin bitches quickest run home time ,
pup number 7 has a little injury and didnt go to the breakers yet, but he is a nice dog and hopefully he goes ok as well ,
i know breakin means nothing , so we will see how they progress over coming months , its an interesting concept and i think its worth following up on what the pups can achieve from such a mating ,
I attempted one recently but could not get permission of the stud master of one of the proposed dogs and thats where it stopped. i thought once i owned the frozen semen than it was mine to do what i want with. This silly rule about having both stud master's permission seems pointless, they have nothing to do with the mating yet they get an over riding decision making power.
David Deguara United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 958 Dogs 81 / Races 93 11 Feb 2013 08:03
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Mick
You mentioned that the "older" semen produced the largest number of pups, now this might sound a very stupid question but out of interest/curiosity was/is there any correlation to the number of pups per sire in relation to the order in which the AI's took place?
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 11 Feb 2013 08:19
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david deguara wrote:
Mick
You mentioned that the "older" semen produced the largest number of pups, now this might sound a very stupid question but out of interest/curiosity was/is there any correlation to the number of pups per sire in relation to the order in which the AI's took place?
hi david alastair at sandown, where the procedure was done (implant ) all semen was frozen, the semen was thawed mixed and implanted , im no expert but i do believe back in those days we got a little more for our money , lol
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 11 Feb 2013 08:23
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yes you do have to get the studmasters permission , its about , returns/refunds etc for a miss with one of the sires ,
i simply said the risk was mine , so no problems from the three studmasters ,
Graeme Beasley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3265 Dogs 27 / Races 5 12 May 2013 10:21
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Anyone care to put up some named pups and race results so far? I know it's only early but there'd be a few of us that'd like to keep up with how it's all going. From what I can see Larissa's litter would be around 2 years old by now.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 13 May 2013 00:17
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some of ours are in pretraining, some are still at home ,
18/19 months old , doubt any will race before 22/23 months old
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 13 May 2013 00:25
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michael barry wrote:
some of ours are in pretraining, some are still at home ,
18/19 months old , doubt any will race before 22/23 months old
Mick would you do it again. Do you feel it was worth the cost.
Larissa Darragh Australia (Verified User) Posts 182 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2013 03:21
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Some of ours are still racing, others have already been placed through GAP. Ours are of limited ability (they are racing at tier three level) but chase hard and are nice dogs - just sadly too slow.
The dogs still racing for us from our split litter are: ALARMING SILENT ALARM WARNING
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 13 May 2013 07:45
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kevin wright wrote:
michael barry wrote:
some of ours are in pretraining, some are still at home ,
18/19 months old , doubt any will race before 22/23 months old
Mick would you do it again. Do you feel it was worth the cost.
hi kevin , would i do it again , yes probally at some stage ,
the cost , well everything greyhound costs , sometimes its recovered , most times its not lol but we are quietly confident we can get a winner or two from the exercise , time will tell, mayb we will get lucky and she produces as well as her sister lol
has this been done ,where 2 straws of different sires been implanted in a bitch and is it legal.can we get it done
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 24 Apr 2014 11:37
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Nearly 12 mths. since last post...any more news of such...???
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 24 Apr 2014 11:50
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grant thomas wrote:
Nearly 12 mths. since last post...any more news of such...???
Grant as you know Mr Barry is a banned member and cannot post so I guess you are teasing him .LOL.( he should be back soon I guess )
I own one of these dogs from that split mating and he is at best is only a tier 3 .
The others I don't know much about them but if you ask Mr Barry over on the other forum he would have a better idea .
I am personally in favour of split matings and i have a nice split one now at 7 weeks old and I will continue to do splits in the future .
I hope I have been helpful tonight and I look forward to answering any other comments you may have.
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 24 Apr 2014 11:56
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grant thomas wrote:
Nearly 12 mths. since last post...any more news of such...???
" any "...
Didn't have to be Michael...
You did one and there may be others...
When will you DNA yours to find out who's(by)who...???...What was the matings...???
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 24 Apr 2014 12:26
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grant thomas wrote:
grant thomas wrote:
Nearly 12 mths. since last post...any more news of such...???
" any "...
Didn't have to be Michael...
You did one and there may be others...
When will you DNA yours to find out who's(by)who...???...What was the matings...???
Grant its a pleasure to tell you I have had the DNA done at 6 weeks old along with c3 and Microchip . I rang Kate at GRV today in fact to ask her how much longer I have to wait and her reply was I don't know maybe next week so I said thank you Kate . Once we get DNA all we have to do is get ear brand with the correct microchip and dog then its all over red rover and they get picked up by there new owners .
Interesting thing is I know who is who already and its looking like 3 Sure As and 5 Whackers .
Next litter for Dragon Angel will be a interesting one also .
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 24 Apr 2014 13:49
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" I know who is who already "...Color Inheritance...???
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 24 Apr 2014 13:54
Hi rob I've got my 1st split litter due in 2 days her 1st litter I purchased her for breeding from Vic a collision bitch that traces back to ginger best of blue no intent we sal , I always had intentions of going to my made to size for endurance but I wanted the speed of elite blue size so I did both and now await to c what comes supposedly 7 on scan
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 25 Apr 2014 13:41
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Hope you get a near even split Julie...
Kenneth Markham Australia (Verified User) Posts 252 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2014 08:16
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Hi rob I have a litter that had two dogs implanted the bitch quick state was served with Barcia Bale and Lochinvar Marlow so can assure this can be done they are now 14 months ready to be broken in.There is 8 in litter 3 Barcias 5 Marlows all terrific sorts dogs between 32 and 38kg bitches 27 to 30kg
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
