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Dan Hollywood
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07 Oct 2009 14:28


Dan it's too much to post on here but the Board does have to make those decisions without consulting the Class A Members. You'll have to read the Racing Act 2002 Part 3 Division 1 - Function and powers of control bodies, and you'll also have to read the Transitional provisions for Racing Amendment Act 2008 which will explain a lot more

Sue, part 3 division 1 refers to the control body and not the board.
Same as your transitional provisions. Former = GRA, new = GQL.
As it says in provisions - New control bodies are legal successor of former boards.
We now have a company and not a board as the control body.

As to board meetings
18.3
Questions decided by majority
Subject to this Constitution, questions arising at any meeting of the Board will be decided by a majority of votes, and a determination by a majority of the members of the Board is a determination of the Board

Where did i say they are entitled to vote at a board meeting. I was refering to the board meeting to conduct their business, which is to handle the affairs of the company, GQL.

Agreed but there are only certain matters that can be voted on at a General Meeting:-

a motion to remove a Class A Member;
a motion to increase the remuneration of Directors;
a resolution to amend the Constitution;
the election or removal of Directors;
a resolution to increase the Directors’ remuneration

Well Sue, this is where it is wrong. If the rep from North Qld moved a motion for a resolution and his fellow reps agreed not to close McKay, then that resolution wouldve been tabled under rule 11.3 (b) (ii). And both voting rights apply. Their involvement as member representatives having authority are being withheld. I believe you are refering to class A and or B voting rights.

Is that clear.

There is no such thing as a company meeting of members, there are only Directors Meetings attended by Directors of the Company and General Meetings attended by Class A and Class B Members.

The company meets for the annual general meeting and general meetings, or is supposed to.

ps, im not argueing either, just wondering why i am accused of defamation when questioning the operation of GQL and their meetings with little or no member participation.

Sue Burley
Australia
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07 Oct 2009 23:55


Dan why don't you contact your Member Rep, they should be able to tell you what they can and can't vote on at a General Meeting. Then you can post what you were told.

If they tell you they can vote on issues such as the closure of clubs, introduction of FOL etc then ask them why they have not called a General Meeting to vote on same.

But if they tell you they can only vote on certain things as I have posted then you should consider the matter closed.



Dan Hollywood
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08 Oct 2009 03:34


Sue you were wrong about the one vote each episode and could say you're wrong again now. You were at a meeting where i spoke to a rep about GQL general meetings, you know, meetings of the company. And while this is what they are trying to achieve, some are making things difficult.
The old GRA board was replaced with the company, GQL. This company consists of currently 10 members, class A and B. These members who form this company should meet to carry out business as usual as stated by law. However if you had your ears open at that meeting you wouldve heard some discussion re general meetings, and the opportunities for class A members re these general meetings were being withheld. They're working on it Sue, they know what the rules state and their entitlements as class A members. Meetings should've been penciled in already but feel its something a few want to avoid badly.

Sue Burley
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08 Oct 2009 04:24


Dan ring your member rep and ask when the last time was that they requested a General Meeting with the Board, then ask if they attended that meeting or if their opportunity to attend was withheld as you state, also ask if there has been any other occasions when their opportunity to attend a General Meeting had been denied. Then get back to us. The only mention I can find on their site regarding a meeting with the Board was on 12th November last year following the AGM of the Board of Directors.

The Telephone No for the member rep is available on their website.

Dan hollywood wrote:

Sue you were wrong about the one vote each episode and could say you're wrong again now..

No I wasn't wrong Dan but I did agree to disagree.



Dan Hollywood
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08 Oct 2009 04:28


No Sue, i dont need to ring anyone, its straight from the horses mouth and your ears missed it.

Yes you were wrong, the vote was not counted how you explained it should happen.

Dan Hollywood
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08 Oct 2009 05:54


Sorry Sue, battery died. Chat later.

Sue Burley
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08 Oct 2009 05:57


That's because you talk too much lol.

Conrad Buhner
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15 Oct 2009 05:30


Bundaberg Greyhound club has got the funds approved for a new lure.

This article was on the queensland greyhound website.

14 Oct, 2009.
GREYHOUNDS Queensland has approved funding for an upgrade of the lure system at the Bundaberg track.
The club in recent times has experienced mechanical problems with the system which currently operates under the Bramich system.
Replacement parts for this lure system no longer are available.
GQL will provide a new running rail, rail posts and installation of a cable lure system similar to that used at both Albion Park and Ipswich.
Work is expected to start late in November and take two weeks to complete.
Unfortunately two race meetings are expected to be lost in this time.
GQL and the club will look to reschedule these meetings before June 30, 2010.
A replacement set of starting boxes will also be installed for the 550m point during the upgrade.END

Great to see some money put into the bundaberg track. Being a country track, i am sure the new lure and starting boxes will be appreciated. These funds used at the track will also give the members some confidence in the future of greyhound racing in Bundaberg. Great Positive move for the future of Greyhound racing in QLD.

Sue Burley
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15 Oct 2009 06:20


Already discussed here Conrad, we're quick off the mark around here lol.

CLICK HERE

Dan Hollywood
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16 Oct 2009 05:44


Been discussed on a few sites over a number of years, about time. Should bring those back that refused to go there because of the lure problems. A positive for the industry in Qld, what next?????

Dan Hollywood
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26 Oct 2009 23:38


Courtesy Qld Journal

Letter to
the Editor
Dear Sir,
A few of my thoughts on Brisbane
racing as I’m very close to pulling the pin.
Give all trainers at meetings two
plastic muzzles each or send out $40 and
set a date for the introduction of plastic
muzzles on race day. Hence no more dogs
getting spiked on the lure.
Reintroduce weekend racing like
every other state then more dogs can race
twice a week. People who work during the
week can go to the meeting with their kids.
We will be able to retrieve our lost meeting
as you would find a lot more nominations.
Also Sky show us South Africa and
New Zealand racing. They should consider
their local product as one day the way
things are going there will be no
greyhounds left in Queensland.
Albion should have 11 races on race
day as they have the kennel space until
weekend racing starts otherwise the 70
odd dogs that can’t get a start each week
will find themselves at the blood bank.
Prizemoney has not kept pace with
inflation as 17 years ago at Beenleigh, a
Class 3 track, we were racing for $600 a
win. To close a meeting to increase
prizemoney is not the answer.
As the allocation from the TAB is due
in a couple of years, we should be lobbying
yesterday for a better %, plus back pay
for the millions and millions we have
missed out on over the years otherwise
the horses and trots will just stand all over
us as they have done before and are still
doing.
Look at the laying of little gravel from
the car park at Albion to the kennels.
Horses have shoes, dogs don’t.
What of the closure of the four southeast
tracks. I figured less overheads, rent,
wages etc will result in more prizemoney
as all under one roof. Somehow I figured
wrong.
What did happen though was an exodus
of people from the industry like Vic
Sorrenson, John Thompson, Byron Miller,
Gavin Lowe, Reg Kay, Sarah Pringle (I
won’t go on as this is a letter not a book)
moved to Casino way for better prizemoney
and unplaced monies. Somehow I missed
the boat as I’m too old to move now.
The way we are losing racetracks,
meetings, trainers, owners, in a few years
time in Queensland it will be the last one
on the track please turn the lights out

Dan Hollywood
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03 Nov 2009 03:11


Whats the go here with Kennel inspections, do they usually go for an hours drive to inspect one kennel and drive straight past others.

Sue Burley
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03 Nov 2009 08:04


One would think they would do a few in the same area. Did you have an inspection Dan?

Dan Hollywood
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04 Nov 2009 00:12


No Sue, i'm not a licencee. Definately discriminating yet typical tactics employed by this state. Theres more involved but will not go into it other than say there will be fun times ahead.

Brendan Rouse
Australia

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04 Nov 2009 03:00


I agree with the letter published in the Journal. I also feeel for Dan and his situation of being disqualified. I am by no means a major player in the greyhound industry and will not be missed. But the way things are handled in this state finds me considering two options.

1. Sending my dogs to Victoria. The GRV only seemed to be going forward, from strength to strength.It makes little difference watching on Sky if they're racing in Qld or Vic. Also the way they treat particapants. I get the feeling I'm a nuisance.

2. Race horses instead. You can buy a share in a thoroughbred that is well bred and trained by an established city trainer for the same rate as buying a well bred pup, having it reared, broken in, ready to race.

Dan Hollywood
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05 Nov 2009 02:18


Brendan you will also agree with Paul Dolans collumn and the comments from Ipswich Mayor in this weeks NGF. Having a council behind the greyhound people in the Ipswich and surrounding area sustains the value of the industry to the public and keeps people in jobs etc. However that may not stop the GQL board from transfering those meetings in the future to the new beaut Logan super track. Dont worry about me Brendan, it could well be those i know in the industry who are the next victims. The problem that will face the Qld industry is the Owners/trainers who have done their time, will just throw away there leads, had 30 odd years enjoyment up until the last decade and will move on quietly. Who is going to replace them, thats right not you or i. The Robartsons have not been in Qld too long, anyone tipping their move home in the next few years. Mals had first hand experiences and not one to be fucked over a fence like the many who have received it from this crew. The victimisation and discrimination continues, but mayby not for much longer.

Dan Hollywood
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06 Nov 2009 01:57


IPSWICH MAYOR, Paul Pisasale spoke
emotionally at the Ipswich Cup presentation,
and had some words of advice for
the sport’s controlling body, Greyhounds
Queensland.
“They must look after regional centres,
such as Ipswich, keeping as many
people as possible involved in the sport,”
Cr. Pisasale said.
He was referring to the likelihood of a
new track being built at Underwood in
Logan, on Brisbane’s southside, and the
possibility that GQL might want to relocate
the Ipswich track and dates to there.
“If they think the Ipswich area, where
so many greyhound breeding and training
properties are based, is going to service
some ‘megatrack’ that they have in mind
elsewhere, they should think twice, because
we, as a council, won’t support
that,” the Mayor said.
“This council supports greyhound
racing directly with sponsorship of the
Ipswich Cup and sensible rules and bylaws
for people with greyhound properties.”
“We wouldn’t do all that if our track is
ever taken away.”
“It’s like the libraries, they don’t make
the council any money, but they are a
service for the people.”
“It’s the same with a greyhound track.
The fact that it employs people and gives
families so much fun and enjoyment is so
important to retain.”
The mayor met last week with the
Ipswich GRC committee to listen to their
concerns, and pledged his support.
“It’s a pity nobody from GQL was
here for the Cup. I would have chewed
their ear.”
“Maybe that’s what they were afraid
of,” he said.
“To me, greyhound racing is not
about having some ‘megatrack’ with no
atmosphere purely for TAB and television
coverage. It’s about the enjoyment people
get by going along and participating.”
Greyhounds Queensland Limited has
said there is no intention of closing down
Ipswich or Capalaba tracks.
But people have memories of what
happened with Lawnton, Toowoomba,
Beenleigh, the Gold Coast, Ayr, Mount
Isa and Mackay, all of which have been
closed for various reasons since 1995.
Shutting the Gold Coast’s Parklands
track and Mount Isa, and to some extent
Ayr, were not GQL decisions, but the
others were.

Terry Fitzgerald
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06 Nov 2009 06:19


I don't own or race dogs in QLD anymore, for the plethora of reasons stated in this thread.

And I'm reasonably well heeled and an active participant in this great sport.

No wonder there are bugger all young owners or trainers coming through in QLD.

Sue Burley
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06 Nov 2009 07:01


Did you ever own or race dogs in Qld Terry? How many, how often? And acually there are many young owners and trainers coming through in Qld.

I do really think Mayor Pisasale should do a bit of research before shooting his mouth off and the same goes for Paul Dolan before he publishes it.

If Mayor Pisasale had spoken to his council or the Committee of the Ipswich Club or even his own brother in law who is a member of the Board he would know that the future of the Ipswich track has been discussed between all parties and what he has stated is a load of uneducated rot.


Terry Fitzgerald
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06 Nov 2009 07:04


Yeh Sue, during the 70's and 80's.

Sue Burley wrote:

Did you ever own or race dogs in Qld Terry? How many, how often? And acually there are many young owners and trainers coming through in Qld.

I do really think Mayor Pisasale should do a bit of research before shooting his mouth off and the same goes for Paul Dolan before he publishes it.

If Mayor Pisasale had spoken to his council or the Committee of the Ipswich Club or even his own brother in law who is a member of the Board he would know that the future of the Ipswich track has been discussed between all parties and what he has stated is a load of uneducated rot.




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