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Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 24 Oct 2014 19:33
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Not arguing Paul but ask Len how good his bitch is.
She's one of those rare bitchs that throws incredible dogs.
Good luck to everyone that's flocking him I hope it works for them. CLICK HERE
John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 24 Oct 2014 21:36
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johnathon in all fairness to vee man vane people think because he was a short course dog he's offspring would be the same and in my opinion most trainers think the same.until they try them over abit more cround and then they find out they can get more ground.they only have to look at his dam line to find out there were stayers from this line as well.i have just put some more bitchs to him and im very sure they will get five hundred yards plus i'am very happy with the dogs I have got from vee man vane and will be buying more straws to this dog very soon as he is not getting any younger as he will be ten in april and befor the next price increase.
Paul Matthews Australia (Verified User) Posts 1854 Dogs 73 / Races 22 24 Oct 2014 22:38
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Theres no dispute johnno that off springer is a great producing brood. And a great acheivement for vee man vane to be used on such a good producer. But he deserved his chance after his impressive first few litters.
Now he has enough bitchs to see what he nicks well with. And this alone will improve his stats in the upcoming years.
He will have amount of pups on the ground that all sires need to prove themself. So watch this space boys.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 24 Oct 2014 23:57
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Paul I agree 100% with your post and he's getting the large numbers needed and could prove to be a stand out sire and he has extremely fast pups winning plenty of races over the 300+ dogs we'd all like to own and I hope with the next wave of pups he can stand up as being a sire that can get 500+ dogs in larger numbers.
Paul Matthews Australia (Verified User) Posts 1854 Dogs 73 / Races 22 25 Oct 2014 00:54
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Gee must be your lack of sleep whelping that litter Johnno if your agreeing with me LOL. Good on you johnno for being sensible and seeing the bigger picture. Lets judge him in a years time would be fair.
Richard Vrckoff Australia (Verified User) Posts 681 Dogs 1 / Races 0 25 Oct 2014 11:24
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With Vee Man Vane pups having competed in 29 GROUP Finals & breaking 7 Track Records, I have to say he is going alright..... Lol
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 25 Oct 2014 20:13
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I'm with Paul and I'll wait another year but VMV is nearly 12yrs old so as john mentioned you may need to snap up some straws.
Here's some stats from GRV.
He has 835-pups 231-named 258-unamed 346-under 18mths old.
J.staines has had 52-pups 30-named 22-unamed over 18mths. 4-litters under 12mths
Richi has had 18-pups 3-named 15-unamed over 18mths old.
Give or take but it's a gamble waiting for that X factor pup.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 25 Oct 2014 21:03
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The double close up of new tears on the fast strong outcrossed 600m bitch who already showed with the mogambo mating what she likes,Lens a pretty smart guy.She throws a certain type and putting that temlee heavy sire in new tears up close just adds the pace to go with that strength.Great broodbitch one of the best.Lenny you still owe me a beer for kenneling Echelon a couple of times wasnt he demanding thought i was a pool boy at the ritz.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 26 Oct 2014 03:14
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Sires are just the vehicle .Excellent words although we differ on exactly what they bring its still the same theory.Dogs are getting faster because many many breeders now realise choosing a sire is more about adding the ingredients to a great cake than the dog that zoomed around wenty everyu week that impressed you.VEE man is a proven point in this he never ran 500m and could never win a group one but his speed ,chase and forfathers positioning makes him an interesting choice to CERTAIN type of bitches.Richie is not going to tell you this when yopu call like all stud masters and used car salesman they will tell you he suits every bitch and thats what stats dont show.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 26 Oct 2014 03:17
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james saunders wrote:
Sires are just the vehicle .Excellent words although we differ on exactly what they bring its still the same theory.Dogs are getting faster because many many breeders now realise choosing a sire is more about adding the ingredients to a great cake than the dog that zoomed around wenty everyu week that impressed you.VEE man is a proven point in this he never ran 500m and could never win a group one but his speed ,chase and forfathers positioning makes him an interesting choice to CERTAIN type of bitches.Richie is not going to tell you this when yopu call like all stud masters and used car salesman they will tell you he suits every bitch and thats what stats dont show.
THe Gibbo gold vee man vane was suggested by me as Jarrad called me at my house one night to thank me for the suggestion as they had just broken in .Couldnt let you get away with that one.lol
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5959 Dogs 8 / Races 0 26 Oct 2014 03:40
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James I wasn't trying to get away with anything,
Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
.......I've had a little bit to do with her ........
I don't make suggestions to Jarrad. He rings me with a shortlist and we pound it out. Your suggestion wld've got taken a lot further. haha.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5959 Dogs 8 / Races 0 26 Oct 2014 03:49
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 26 Oct 2014 05:49
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I did everything apart from placing the winners in the boxes,it was all me.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 26 Oct 2014 07:28
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james saunders wrote:
I did everything apart from placing the winners in the boxes,it was all me.
Are you sure, you aren't the sire as well?
If you aren't, then well chosen!!
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 26 Oct 2014 09:24
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Fair enough.Ive never used him but do spruik his potential.I feel Paw licking will be the same disapointing to many but some absolute gems to the right bitches.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5959 Dogs 8 / Races 0 26 Oct 2014 09:30
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james saunders wrote:
I did everything apart from placing the winners in the boxes,it was all me.
bahahahaha. gold!
Richard Vrckoff Australia (Verified User) Posts 681 Dogs 1 / Races 0 28 Oct 2014 21:40
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Banjo Boy makes the field for the GROUP 2 Shootout for the 2nd year in a row. well done Andrew & Ken.
Matthew Brunker Australia (Verified User) Posts 205 Dogs 48 / Races 6 02 Nov 2014 06:39
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Another 1 of the majestic land litter wins his maiden at Canberra .. dicaprio Congrats to battling owner jarrad dale. Lol
Corey ODonnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 505 Dogs 27 / Races 4 02 Nov 2014 08:14
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Richard Vrckoff wrote:
Banjo Boy makes the field for the GROUP 2 Shootout for the 2nd year in a row. well done Andrew & Ken.
Might ad aswell I think Banjo Boy is a great chance in the shootout after drawing the Red . Come on Banjo
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