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Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 18 Apr 2014 21:21
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Yes Joe, Lemon Soda is in x with that mating. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Grant I assumed James was refering to the Jindarra Bale line when I responded, every bitch is different.
Joe Mc Gorrey United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1292 Dogs 2 / Races 0 18 Apr 2014 21:35
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is toll security still active then ryan wonder is he in ireland
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 18 Apr 2014 22:50
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Joe, when I was looking to find Irish intensities thru litter m8's or full blood relations in x in this topic this was the result CLICK HERE (last post).
Surprisingly Lemon Soda wasn't amongst them over your way. Admittedly it was only a few dogs that I checked but I wld have thought they wld be plentiful - in fact no where near it, and as a result when people were doing it here I thought this wasn't going to work, yet it did.
So it looks to work quite well here, yet not on your side of the world. Possibly same cld be said of Prairie Peg as far as primary linebreeding in x thru litterm8's or FBR's go.
The other point I try to get across with peds Joe is no one shld just run with one idea in a pedigree. The way I look at it, pedigrees are made up of intensities in x, saturation/ exposing of damlines, xy and outcrossing to balance the intensity that's been created.
is toll security still active then ryan wonder is he in ireland
I think someone mentioned they had a straw off him a while back--I wonder is there any off ells dominator that stood with him.(sorry if off topic)...To Ryan Vandervert-do you think colour is any indicator of what side a pup from a litter has thrown to-just a thought-minnies nikita,lemon soda,narrogar ann -all fawns,all on the same x path(possibly)
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 19 Apr 2014 01:00
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Colour in relation to x is not something I've looked into John.
Joe Mc Gorrey United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1292 Dogs 2 / Races 0 19 Apr 2014 09:39
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
Joe, when I was looking to find Irish intensities thru litter m8's or full blood relations in x in this topic this was the result CLICK HERE (last post).
Surprisingly Lemon Soda wasn't amongst them over your way. Admittedly it was only a few dogs that I checked but I wld have thought they wld be plentiful - in fact no where near it, and as a result when people were doing it here I thought this wasn't going to work, yet it did.
So it looks to work quite well here, yet not on your side of the world. Possibly same cld be said of Prairie Peg as far as primary linebreeding in x thru litterm8's or FBR's go.
The other point I try to get across with peds Joe is no one shld just run with one idea in a pedigree. The way I look at it, pedigrees are made up of intensities in x, saturation/ exposing of damlines, xy and outcrossing to balance the intensity that's been created.
Good luck with your bitch.
cheers ryan
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 19 Apr 2014 14:42
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Sorry Ryan I thought the sire side was in x but stops at Spiral Nikita must of been dreaming thanks Ted.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 08 Aug 2014 23:50
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Hi Ryan.
There's a nice litter (and one of the luck last) by SPIRAL NIKITA from LIGHT FANTASTIC (x EL GALO), that contains the PRIMARY double cross of LEMON SODA thru the CURRYHILL litter brothers.
As I'm interested in this cross (like yourself), I've kept an eye on this litter which are now at race age.
A couple have started over the last couple of weeks at Maitland recording the WINNING MAIDEN times of 22.52 (400m) & 25.07 (450m).
The percentage factor on this cross, looks very positive in Australia.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 09 Aug 2014 04:27
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%'s here look pretty solid to me too Steve. cheers.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 09 Aug 2014 08:16
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 21 Aug 2014 09:14
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FANTASTIC SID ---> CLICK HERE runs a B.O.N at Wpk winning by 11+ lengths in 30.01 last week.
He also just raced at Dapto & flew around in 29.75 & won by 12+ lengths.
The intensity to LEMON SODA (IN "X") again prove's a winnner....... & in fast time.
Serdar Mustafa Australia (Verified User) Posts 92 Dogs 0 / Races 0 21 Aug 2014 22:43
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Joe frozen semen still available for toll security I have all his straws
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 16 Oct 2014 09:19
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steven martin wrote:
There's a nice litter (and one of the luck last) by SPIRAL NIKITA from LIGHT FANTASTIC (x EL GALO), that contains the PRIMARY double cross of LEMON SODA thru the CURRYHILL litter brothers.
Another one from this litter that can run the legs off the clock. 29.60 at Dapto ---> CLICK HERE
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 16 Oct 2014 11:53
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Just goes to show Steve even when you outcross it's best to linebreed esp so in x.
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Oct 2014 06:56
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
There is a primary litterm8 cross in x to top Irish brood Lemon Soda beginning to rear it's head here in Aus :
anyone aware of any others that have/have not been successful ?
HAVE A LOOK AT THE PEDIGREE SPLIT MATCH UP IF WHEELER PUTS COSMIC RUMBLE OVER XYLIA ALLEN M8. IT SHOWS PRETTY MUCH WHAT U R GETTING AT BRO. IF I WAS WHEELER COSMIC WOULD BE THE 1ST SIRE I WOULD PUT OVER XYLIA. A NO BRAINER 4 ME. WHATS UR THOUGHTS ON THAT M8 ?
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 17 Oct 2014 07:12
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Hi Steve,
Lemon Soda is not in x thru Spiral on the sires line CLICK HERE and paw has stated doesn't linebreed in x deliberately. cheers.
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Oct 2014 07:40
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
Hi Steve,
Lemon Soda is not in x thru Spiral on the sires line CLICK HERE and paw has stated doesn't linebreed in x deliberately. cheers.
WELL ITS UP 2 HIM I GUESS. THIS MATING BRINGS IN 2GETHER PLENTY OF TOP PROVEN CROSSES & CLICKS. SOMETIMES YA GOTTA THROW OUT YA CALCULATION BOOK & BREED 2 WELL SUITED BLOODLINES THAT BRING 2GETHER RELATIONS MAYBE NOT EXACTLY IN THE SAME POSITIONS AS YOU R TALKING ABOUT BUT MATINGS DON'T ALWAYS CROSS & PRODUCE WHAT YA CALCULATOR SAYS. NOT EVERYTHING IN NATURE CAN BE WORKED OUT BY MATHEMATICAL FORMULAS. WHEELERS GOT PLENTY OF $'S 2 TRY THIS MATING OUT. I'LL BE INTERESTED 2 SEE WHO HE CHOOSES 2 USE OVER HER IN THE FUTURE YEARS AHEAD. KEEP ON ROCKING M8
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 17 Oct 2014 10:01
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This is not a bad pup, just scored well in the Lismore John Stollery Novice heats
Richard Johnson United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 69 Dogs 12 / Races 0 17 Oct 2014 12:11
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Ryan .. i'm quite surprised how hard it is/was to get any Aussie sires with Curryhill Brute in x over here .. especially when you think just how many bitches must carry plenty of Curryhills Fox/Skelligs Tiger through females in x
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 18 Jan 2015 23:44
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Another one Ryan that slipped thru to the keeper ---> CLICK HERE Dam good litter this one too.
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
