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Aaron Shearman Australia (Verified User) Posts 41 Dogs 2 / Races 0 22 Mar 2014 00:08
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What would be regarded as a healthy weight when pup is born
Lianne Cook Australia (Verified User) Posts 13438 Dogs 100 / Races 97 22 Mar 2014 00:29
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Average weight range is 350gm to 450gm, a very good weight is 500gms or more.
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 22 Mar 2014 00:42
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Never worry about weight when 1st born. Ive noticed the smallest can often near end up the biggest. As long as they are sucking well your grand. At two weeks i weigh but only for worming correct.
Have the runt of litter here, kept him as was only a litter of 4 and had 3 spoken for so didnt want to gave anyone else him so i kept him. Is coming on 11 months now and past four weeks he has really started to fill out, for a wile i was worried but is turning into a lovely dog.
Viva La Prince, one to watch in future hehe
Lianne Cook Australia (Verified User) Posts 13438 Dogs 100 / Races 97 22 Mar 2014 00:50
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It is important to weigh the pups at birth and regularly so you can keep an eye on whether the pup has been gaining weight normally. Pups under 250gms at birth often do not survive. Those that survive, only do so because the experienced breeder takes the pup for supplementary feeding and assistance 24/7 in the first few days. Even if pups are feeding well, that doesn't mean they are doing well, unless you can check their weight weekly to make sure they are gaining at least 200gms a week or thereabouts. In this way you know their bodies are getting the required nutrition to grow well.
I've had runts of the litter and they always turned out just as good as their littermates.
Aaron Shearman Australia (Verified User) Posts 41 Dogs 2 / Races 0 22 Mar 2014 01:01
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Thanks guys
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 22 Mar 2014 01:23
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Lianne Cook wrote:
It is important to weigh the pups at birth and regularly so you can keep an eye on whether the pup has been gaining weight normally. Pups under 250gms at birth often do not survive. Those that survive, only do so because the experienced breeder takes the pup for supplementary feeding and assistance 24/7 in the first few days. Even if pups are feeding well, that doesn't mean they are doing well, unless you can check their weight weekly to make sure they are gaining at least 200gms a week or thereabouts. In this way you know their bodies are getting the required nutrition to grow well.
I've had runts of the litter and they always turned out just as good as their littermates.
Fair point leanne, im in no way a expert but have whelped a few. I meant no need to worry if all are sucking and look well, unless of chorse one or two is a lot smaller than the lest of litter it is worth taking weights and see how they are getting on. But in my experince if all are sucking well and moving about and just look good in general then i never worry about weight. They will be what they will be. I hope my little runt will win many a race in his days. Good luck to u and ur pups mate
Joanne Baker Australia (Verified User) Posts 162 Dogs 0 / Races 1 22 Mar 2014 04:22
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Weighing pups at birth is ridiculous.
Blind Freddy should be able to tell if they are fit, healthy and growing normally.
My brother was born 3 pounds 3 oz and was in trouble for weeks in hospital. He is now 110 kgs and 6 foot 3. Same applies for dogs.
Care and being looked after is far more important that what a scale tells you.
I wonder if breeders like the Wheelers weigh their puppies?
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 22 Mar 2014 04:46
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Joanne Baker wrote:
Weighing pups at birth is ridiculous.
Blind Freddy should be able to tell if they are fit, healthy and growing normally.
My brother was born 3 pounds 3 oz and was in trouble for weeks in hospital. He is now 110 kgs and 6 foot 3. Same applies for dogs.
Care and being looked after is far more important that what a scale tells you.
I wonder if breeders like the Wheelers weigh their puppies?
Joanne
You seem to have an obsession with the Wheeler Kennels.
What's cooking in the Baker kennels? Apart form bread rolls.
Chris Nutt Australia (Verified User) Posts 310 Dogs 2 / Races 0 22 Mar 2014 05:11
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and that's a bad thing Sandro?
Joanne Baker Australia (Verified User) Posts 162 Dogs 0 / Races 1 22 Mar 2014 05:17
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Wheeler Kennels are the measuring stick Sandro, I feel.
They have had more success than most of us put together and have seen it all.
I am not obsessed, just in awe of their system.
This topic doesn't apply to Wheelers in general. My reply was directed to the breeders I have known over the years and I cannot name you one that weighs pups at birth.
Maybe they should. Personally I just cannot see the point.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 22 Mar 2014 05:20
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weigh them when its time to worm.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 22 Mar 2014 05:26
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Joanne Baker wrote:
Wheeler Kennels are the measuring stick Sandro, I feel.
They have had more success than most of us put together and have seen it all.
I am not obsessed, just in awe of their system.
This topic doesn't apply to Wheelers in general. My reply was directed to the breeders I have known over the years and I cannot name you one that weighs pups at birth.
Maybe they should. Personally I just cannot see the point.
No doubt about it. But why mention it in terms of this topic, do you work for them?
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 22 Mar 2014 05:26
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Chris Nutt wrote:
and that's a bad thing Sandro?
Of course not Chris LOL
Joanne Baker Australia (Verified User) Posts 162 Dogs 0 / Races 1 22 Mar 2014 05:29
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Joanne Baker wrote:
Wheeler Kennels are the measuring stick Sandro, I feel.
They have had more success than most of us put together and have seen it all.
I am not obsessed, just in awe of their system.
This topic doesn't apply to Wheelers in general. My reply was directed to the breeders I have known over the years and I cannot name you one that weighs pups at birth.
Maybe they should. Personally I just cannot see the point.
No doubt about it. But why mention it in terms of this topic, do you work for them?
No I don't work for them Sandro.
Paul couldn't afford to pay me what I would require. lol
I will stick with being a housewife thanks.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 22 Mar 2014 05:37
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Joanne Baker wrote:
Sandro Bechini wrote:
Joanne Baker wrote:
Wheeler Kennels are the measuring stick Sandro, I feel.
They have had more success than most of us put together and have seen it all.
I am not obsessed, just in awe of their system.
This topic doesn't apply to Wheelers in general. My reply was directed to the breeders I have known over the years and I cannot name you one that weighs pups at birth.
Maybe they should. Personally I just cannot see the point.
No doubt about it. But why mention it in terms of this topic, do you work for them?
No I don't work for them Sandro.
Paul couldn't afford to pay me what I would require. lol
I will stick with being a housewife thanks.
Keep baking those rolls then
Aaron Shearman Australia (Verified User) Posts 41 Dogs 2 / Races 0 22 Mar 2014 05:48
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didn't mean to start a fight i have bred other breeds with out a problem but lost a whole litter about 6 months ago and was just curious as i will be whelping a litter tomorrow
Joanne Baker Australia (Verified User) Posts 162 Dogs 0 / Races 1 22 Mar 2014 06:05
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Just baked a nice batch of scones this afternoon Sandro.
I think I will stick to the kitchen like a good housewife and let you doggy people play on GD.
Have a nice day.
Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3160 Dogs 12 / Races 0 22 Mar 2014 06:15
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I think you don't need to weigh them unless you feel they are not putting on weight.
Some pups will be bigger than others so weighing them at birth wont give you a true indication. Common sense should tell you if a pup is under weight.
Lianne Cook Australia (Verified User) Posts 13438 Dogs 100 / Races 97 22 Mar 2014 06:36
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Other breeders also weigh pups at birth. I weigh mine simply just to have a record on it, because they are my babies lol so it is like having a human baby, they weigh your baby in the hospital so you can record it as a keepsake. I have whelped over 70 litters and rarely lose a pup, so it is a personal choice of mine to weigh them at birth. Does no harm.
I have worked/lived in at quite a few prominent breeders place and learnt so many things from them, in all facets like breeding, rearing, breaking in, driving a lure on a trial track, handling dogs at stud, as well as working as a vet assistant, etc And some of these breeders even weighed their pups at birth, yes, a surprise!
However it is the whelping side of things that I love! :-) and seeing the puppies grow up then winning races is a big thrill (even after 25 years in the industry lol)
Robert Thomson United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 335 Dogs 21 / Races 17 09 Jul 2014 07:02
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Lianne Cook wrote:
Average weight range is 350gm to 450gm, a very good weight is 500gms or more.
Never knew this, seems a pretty good guide, our runt just born a week ago weighed 330gms and the rest weighed in between 520 - 600gms with one bitch 560gms, looks like they're going to be big fingers crossed lol.