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Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 07 Aug 2014 03:59
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Has anyone had any experience with these types of fractures or know vets that have had experience with them. I'm not sure how I can attach xrays but I will try to save them and upload to photobucket if needed. The fractures are at the front of both hocks, large chunks that have broken away and not healed back properly into place. Just wondering if anyone has had these types of fractures come good, after not being set by a vet. The dog is a 3 year old. Any advice ?
thank you
Robynne
Gary Smith Australia (Verified User) Posts 3320 Dogs 6 / Races 14 07 Aug 2014 04:07
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Robynne Black wrote:
Has anyone had any experience with these types of fractures or know vets that have had experience with them. I'm not sure how I can attach xrays but I will try to save them and upload to photobucket if needed. The fractures are at the front of both hocks, large chunks that have broken away and not healed back properly into place. Just wondering if anyone has had these types of fractures come good, after not being set by a vet. The dog is a 3 year old. Any advice ?
thank you
Robynne
Sorry to say Robynne retirement is the answer, I have two dogs here who have both done slab fractures and one was wired back into place $2000 and the other I did nothing but plaster it and both will never race again. I think some people have had success if they are screwed by a vet early and some make it back but it sounds like you are in my boat retired.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 07 Aug 2014 04:33
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It sounds like Gary is right, but best to talk to Larry Jocubsen(Twba) or Richard Eaton Wells.
They will tell you for sure.
If they are the central tarsals, GAP.
Good luck.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 07 Aug 2014 04:34
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Gary Smith wrote:
Robynne Black wrote:
Has anyone had any experience with these types of fractures or know vets that have had experience with them. I'm not sure how I can attach xrays but I will try to save them and upload to photobucket if needed. The fractures are at the front of both hocks, large chunks that have broken away and not healed back properly into place. Just wondering if anyone has had these types of fractures come good, after not being set by a vet. The dog is a 3 year old. Any advice ?
thank you
Robynne
Sorry to say Robynne retirement is the answer, I have two dogs here who have both done slab fractures and one was wired back into place $2000 and the other I did nothing but plaster it and both will never race again. I think some people have had success if they are screwed by a vet early and some make it back but it sounds like you are in my boat retired.
Hi Gary thanks so much for your reply. Yes the vet I saw told me had it been found and screwed early it would have been successful however it wasn't so he said my chances are not so great. How did yours look on xray ? Here is the xrays for my fellow
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 07 Aug 2014 04:38
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
It sounds like Gary is right, but best to talk to Larry Jocubsen(Twba) or Richard Eaton Wells.
They will tell you for sure.
If they are the central tarsals, GAP.
Good luck.
Thanks Michael, I'd love to see these vets but the dog is back in Townsville with me now. I'm absolutely gutted as he is likely the best I've ever bred, but he will stay with me forever regardless. thanks again
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 07 Aug 2014 04:43
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Larry's number is 0746308399...very approachable. If you can send the xrays, he will give you advice. I'm afraid it looks like central tarsals...:(
Give him a call, don't give up yet.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 07 Aug 2014 05:14
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Larry's number is 0746308399...very approachable. If you can send the xrays, he will give you advice. I'm afraid it looks like central tarsals...:(
Give him a call, don't give up yet.
Thank you Michael, I have called Larry's office and spoke to a chap who said they would not deal with slab fractures there and referred me on to Richard Eaton-Wells. I have called them and arranged to email the rays to them, like you say it can't hurt to get him to take a look.
thanks again
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 07 Aug 2014 06:05
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Good luck.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 07 Aug 2014 09:36
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Good luck.
Thank you, I'll let you know how I get on - much appreciate to you guys.
I had a bitch who was 2 years old who had a slab fracture of the left hock one vet told me either pts or rehome her as a pet. I took her to another vet Michael O'Connor in Cashel Ireland who had just come back from Australia and he gave her a 50/50 chance the operation took 3 hours and she had screws put in he kept her there for 3 days and she had to go back every week to have it xrayed for 6 weeks it was a success and she came back to win races now she is retired with me.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 07 Aug 2014 20:51
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Carole Shinkwin wrote:
I had a bitch who was 2 years old who had a slab fracture of the left hock one vet told me either pts or rehome her as a pet. I took her to another vet Michael O'Connor in Cashel Ireland who had just come back from Australia and he gave her a 50/50 chance the operation took 3 hours and she had screws put in he kept her there for 3 days and she had to go back every week to have it xrayed for 6 weeks it was a success and she came back to win races now she is retired with me.
Thank you for the reply Carole, that sounds great can you remember how badly damaged was it in comparison to these xrays ? My boy has a year on top of what your girl had, but it would be nice to have some hope for him to race again.
Andrew Paraskevas Australia (Verified User) Posts 984 Dogs 55 / Races 22 07 Aug 2014 21:40
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Robynne Black wrote:
Carole Shinkwin wrote:
I had a bitch who was 2 years old who had a slab fracture of the left hock one vet told me either pts or rehome her as a pet. I took her to another vet Michael O'Connor in Cashel Ireland who had just come back from Australia and he gave her a 50/50 chance the operation took 3 hours and she had screws put in he kept her there for 3 days and she had to go back every week to have it xrayed for 6 weeks it was a success and she came back to win races now she is retired with me.
Thank you for the reply Carole, that sounds great can you remember how badly damaged was it in comparison to these xrays ? My boy has a year on top of what your girl had, but it would be nice to have some hope for him to race again.
I don't have x-rays, but over the past 3 years i've had two dogs with identical injuries. One was screwed and the other was plastered and repaired. The one that was plastered came back and won his first 7 in a row and won another 7 after that. Was only retired due to old age - think he raced till 5 odd? The other came back and won her first start in BOD in a FFA then came on season the following week. She's now got a litter that are 7 or 8 months old to Premier Fantasy.
I did put a heap of work into them - physio twice daily, magnetic field and plenty of time and patience. It's possible to get them back IMO.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 07 Aug 2014 21:53
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Andrew Paraskevas wrote:
Robynne Black wrote:
Carole Shinkwin wrote:
I had a bitch who was 2 years old who had a slab fracture of the left hock one vet told me either pts or rehome her as a pet. I took her to another vet Michael O'Connor in Cashel Ireland who had just come back from Australia and he gave her a 50/50 chance the operation took 3 hours and she had screws put in he kept her there for 3 days and she had to go back every week to have it xrayed for 6 weeks it was a success and she came back to win races now she is retired with me.
Thank you for the reply Carole, that sounds great can you remember how badly damaged was it in comparison to these xrays ? My boy has a year on top of what your girl had, but it would be nice to have some hope for him to race again.
I don't have x-rays, but over the past 3 years i've had two dogs with identical injuries. One was screwed and the other was plastered and repaired. The one that was plastered came back and won his first 7 in a row and won another 7 after that. Was only retired due to old age - think he raced till 5 odd? The other came back and won her first start in BOD in a FFA then came on season the following week. She's now got a litter that are 7 or 8 months old to Premier Fantasy.
I did put a heap of work into them - physio twice daily, magnetic field and plenty of time and patience. It's possible to get them back IMO.
Thanks for your reply Andrew, my only concern is the age of the injury - the vet says he has had it for at least 6-12 months so has been galloped on it quite extensively. It has attempted to heal but has been aggravated by further running, then subsequently pulling up lame and starting the process all over again. Happy to hear of your success though and I hope your Premier Fantasy's turn out great. Gosh he throws a lovely pup doesn't he !
Sean Lithgow Australia (Verified User) Posts 86 Dogs 2 / Races 0 08 Aug 2014 05:07
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We had Michael Bell in Victoria operate and screw back together our star boy Burnt Fuse's hock after he had won about 10 races. Went on to win another 26 races after that. He lost maybe three lengths early but was still a fantastic dog. Not sure after so long if it is fixable but definitely contact a few different vets to get their opinions. Michael Bell did a fantastic job for us so might be worth a call at the very minimum to get his opinion. As Andrew said, it is a lot of work after the operation to get them right and will prob be 4-6 months before they are anywhere near their best again.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 10 Aug 2014 23:26
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Sean Lithgow wrote:
We had Michael Bell in Victoria operate and screw back together our star boy Burnt Fuse's hock after he had won about 10 races. Went on to win another 26 races after that. He lost maybe three lengths early but was still a fantastic dog. Not sure after so long if it is fixable but definitely contact a few different vets to get their opinions. Michael Bell did a fantastic job for us so might be worth a call at the very minimum to get his opinion. As Andrew said, it is a lot of work after the operation to get them right and will prob be 4-6 months before they are anywhere near their best again.
Thank you for your reply Sean, looks like it was well worth it for you.
I have not long got off the phone to Richard Eaton-Wells who has told me surgery will give him an 85% chance of a full recovery. Just trying to work out if we should go for it or not... have to decide this afternoon.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 11 Aug 2014 00:15
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Those are very good odds, Robynne, considering the nature of the injury. I know it won't be cheap....but....
All the best with it, besides, its only money.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 14 Aug 2014 04:09
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Those are very good odds, Robynne, considering the nature of the injury. I know it won't be cheap....but....
All the best with it, besides, its only money.
Thanks Michael, we think he's worth having a go with as well.
He flies out on Monday to Dr Richard Eaton-Wells in Brissie for surgery, now to keep our fingers crossed. Special huge thank you to the new owner of Dogtainers in Cairns Darren who has helped us immeasurably by giving us a great deal on his airfares and to an amazing friend who has helped us out with a loan of the money to have the surgery done. Please keep your fingers crossed for my boy, thank you.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 14 Aug 2014 04:28
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I know this is going to sound witch doctorish, but...
If you can get hold of a Comfrey Plant, feed him a dried leaf in his meal for 4 to 6mths straight after you get him home. You can combine it with Comfrey compresses once the surgery injury has healed. It WILL promote bone and tendon healing.
It's quite incredible how well it works. I've proven it.
Robynne Black Australia (Verified User) Posts 1449 Dogs 20 / Races 0 14 Aug 2014 07:48
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
I know this is going to sound witch doctorish, but...
If you can get hold of a Comfrey Plant, feed him a dried leaf in his meal for 4 to 6mths straight after you get him home. You can combine it with Comfrey compresses once the surgery injury has healed. It WILL promote bone and tendon healing.
It's quite incredible how well it works. I've proven it.
Certainly not crazy at all, Comfrey is also known as bone knit. I have never fed it to them though. I had a huge plant at our old house and forgot to bring it with me, I'll try to get hold of another one. I'll let you know how he goes :-)
Linda Slater United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 18 Dogs 1 / Races 0 16 Aug 2014 18:13
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Best of luck Robynne, we had a young pup fracture his central tarsal at 17 months, had it plastered April, he's coming on well. Not been off leader yet however planning on building him up September onwards. Imagine 6 + months before we give him a go.
I've got my fingers crossed as young when it happened. We had one with 18 screws and a plate in his tarsal and he came back!!
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