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James Wilkinson (Verified User) Posts 137 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 02:14
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Hi All
New to the whole training side of things. I'm interested if any has advice or an article on how to check a dog after a run/trial. I'm only after a basic run down of main things to check (i.e where to push and rub) but can't seem to come across anything. Any advice would be great!
Brett Hastie Australia (Verified User) Posts 297 Dogs 17 / Races 9 22 Oct 2014 02:44
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james wilkinson wrote:
Hi All
New to the whole training side of things. I'm interested if any has advice or an article on how to check a dog after a run/trial. I'm only after a basic run down of main things to check (i.e where to push and rub) but can't seem to come across anything. Any advice would be great!
Find a muscle man close to your location THATS EXPERIENCED.
Stick to him/her.
Buy greyhound anatomy chart.
James Wilkinson (Verified User) Posts 137 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 02:51
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Thanks Brett
The 'local' muscle man is over an hour away. Hence asking for basic info here.
Thanks for the post
Brett Hastie wrote:
james wilkinson wrote:
Hi All
New to the whole training side of things. I'm interested if any has advice or an article on how to check a dog after a run/trial. I'm only after a basic run down of main things to check (i.e where to push and rub) but can't seem to come across anything. Any advice would be great!
Find a muscle man close to your location THATS EXPERIENCED.
Stick to him/her.
Buy greyhound anatomy chart.
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 03:02
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Gday James. Funny how when you ask for training advice on here, the most popular answer is - get someone else to do it.
Here's an old video that is really helpful. It's no substitute for experience but it is a lot better than nothing.
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4614 Dogs 11 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 03:15
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james wilkinson wrote:
Hi All
New to the whole training side of things. I'm interested if any has advice or an article on how to check a dog after a run/trial. I'm only after a basic run down of main things to check (i.e where to push and rub) but can't seem to come across anything. Any advice would be great!
buy a book call care of the racing greyhound a guide for trainers breeders and veterinarians. the late doctor jim gannon, he shows a quick way to check dogs i have learn a lot from this book. no your limit, and have a vet for injury u cant treat, no one else, then u will have success.
Robyn Mackellar Australia (Verified User) Posts 870 Dogs 41 / Races 138 22 Oct 2014 03:16
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Race office did have these books James, give them a ring
James Wilkinson (Verified User) Posts 137 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 03:29
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Beautiful, Thanks for the posts gents...Robyn will give them a buzz! Hopefully they still have them :)
michael bowerman wrote:
james wilkinson wrote:
Hi All
New to the whole training side of things. I'm interested if any has advice or an article on how to check a dog after a run/trial. I'm only after a basic run down of main things to check (i.e where to push and rub) but can't seem to come across anything. Any advice would be great!
buy a book call care of the racing greyhound a guide for trainers breeders and veterinarians. the late doctor jim gannon, he shows a quick way to check dogs i have learn a lot from this book. no your limit, and have a vet for injury u cant treat, no one else, then u will have success.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 22 Oct 2014 03:46
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Welcome to the wonderful, unpredictable, sometimes frustrating, sometimes joyous, sometimes sad, rewarding, debilitating, rollercoaster, uncertain, challenging, exhilarating world of Greyhounds.
The virus you are about to contract is incurable. There is no antidote and there is no turning back...you are a goner. So, take a deep breath, cusp both forefingers to both thumbs, rest them on your knees in a yoga position and wait for the head rush.
Congratulations on having enough brains to try to learn. If the local muscleman is willing to help you, an hours drive will seem totally insignificant if it means you learn the right way. Do as much study as you can, watch as many videos as you can, make everything that the muscleman tells and shows you sink in. Practice on your own dogs and concur with him always.
You will be a long way ahead of many if you do this. If you don't...
The very best of luck.
Hayden Gilders Australia (Verified User) Posts 993 Dogs 29 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 04:58
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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
Gday James. Funny how when you ask for training advice on here, the most popular answer is - get someone else to do it.
Here's an old video that is really helpful. It's no substitute for experience but it is a lot better than nothing.
EXTERNAL LINK Jamie thankyou for posting the link, the video is indeed a lot better than nothing
Bottom of the page. Good luck mate.
John Atkinson Australia (Verified User) Posts 102 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 05:57
You learn from being taught by an experienced k9 chiro or muscle man are you to infer a person getting into dogs should be checking their own dogs and be expectant of quality results? At the end of the day immersing oneself in study will only garner knowledge not experience and the art neigh skill of knowing ones way around a greyhound is taught over a long period, by all means have a shot but know your limits.
Ian Rose Australia (Verified User) Posts 290 Dogs 4 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 20:03
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Alex hauler did a video for teaching veterinarians many years ago,I obtained a copy through one of the university post grad library's. Was Sydney uni or unsw I think.Paul wheeler may be able to give a better idea. Also peter Yore and john Newell put one out,you could ask john he does race day vet at most hunter tab meetings.
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 22:35
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Brett Hastie wrote:
Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
Gday James. Funny how when you ask for training advice on here, the most popular answer is - get someone else to do it.
Here's an old video that is really helpful. It's no substitute for experience but it is a lot better than nothing
You learn from being taught by an experienced k9 chiro or muscle man are you to infer a person getting into dogs should be checking their own dogs and be expectant of quality results? At the end of the day immersing oneself in study will only garner knowledge not experience and the art neigh skill of knowing ones way around a greyhound is taught over a long period, by all means have a shot but know your limits.
I agree Brett, the best way to learn is from an experienced person. The videos, forums, books and anything else you can find is a good way of learning the language, metacarpal, egg muscle, etc, so that when you do talk to an experienced vet or muscle checker, you have some idea of what they are talking about.
James Wilkinson (Verified User) Posts 137 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Oct 2014 22:51
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Good point Jamie. Thanks mate
Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
Brett Hastie wrote:
Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
Gday James. Funny how when you ask for training advice on here, the most popular answer is - get someone else to do it.
Here's an old video that is really helpful. It's no substitute for experience but it is a lot better than nothing
You learn from being taught by an experienced k9 chiro or muscle man are you to infer a person getting into dogs should be checking their own dogs and be expectant of quality results? At the end of the day immersing oneself in study will only garner knowledge not experience and the art neigh skill of knowing ones way around a greyhound is taught over a long period, by all means have a shot but know your limits.
I agree Brett, the best way to learn is from an experienced person. The videos, forums, books and anything else you can find is a good way of learning the language, metacarpal, egg muscle, etc, so that when you do talk to an experienced vet or muscle checker, you have some idea of what they are talking about.
John Watts Australia (Verified User) Posts 976 Dogs 7 / Races 6 22 Oct 2014 22:54
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The respective State authorities should be paying to have a new one of these produced, invaluable to new participants and old ones alike
The knowledge of these blokes should be never be lost
Money would be recouped in the first edition
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 23 Oct 2014 00:13
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Even further than that John, I'd love to see the state bodies put on a week long seminar where the most respected vets and trainers come in, stewards, physios, nutritionists, etc. I'd pay top dollar for something like that where you learn from the very best in the game. No point learning from someone who is 'fairly good' at it.
John Watts Australia (Verified User) Posts 976 Dogs 7 / Races 6 23 Oct 2014 00:42
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Jamie if it wont look good on their CV you probably wont see it.
But I agree wholeheartedly, their are new participants with a thirst for knowledge in the industry, it just isn't being catered for on a consistent basis
Paul Matthews Australia (Verified User) Posts 1854 Dogs 73 / Races 22 23 Oct 2014 00:44
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James all good advice above,if you are to reach the top as a trainer i think it is very important to be able to check your own to a fairly high standard. And it your not confident enough to trust yourself. Find a good muscle man vet,but one thing you can do is always be observant when walking dogs have a good look at them. One thing that i allways watch for is dogs shaking out from head to toe. If a dog has a bad limp pads are a good place to start then toes ect. Some wouldnt even limp with a broken bone,and if there limping because of a bad muscle tears that would be pretty obvious.
Metacarpals hocks fibula's/tibia's and sesamoids in young ones starting around circle are common.And will stop there progress big time.
Unfortunately you will have to learn these checking methods from someone in person to start with, but be observant and listen gain info and you will be on the right track.
Another good tip i got when starting was allways cool/hose there head/brain asap after trial because it could lead to loss of sight over time.
I drive over two hours to get mine checked welcome to dogs mate lol
James Wilkinson (Verified User) Posts 137 Dogs 3 / Races 0 23 Oct 2014 01:50
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Cheers for the post Paul. Thanks for the info mate appreciate it.
paul matthews wrote:
James all good advice above,if you are to reach the top as a trainer i think it is very important to be able to check your own to a fairly high standard. And it your not confident enough to trust yourself. Find a good muscle man vet,but one thing you can do is always be observant when walking dogs have a good look at them. One thing that i allways watch for is dogs shaking out from head to toe. If a dog has a bad limp pads are a good place to start then toes ect. Some wouldnt even limp with a broken bone,and if there limping because of a bad muscle tears that would be pretty obvious.
Metacarpals hocks fibula's/tibia's and sesamoids in young ones starting around circle are common.And will stop there progress big time.
Unfortunately you will have to learn these checking methods from someone in person to start with, but be observant and listen gain info and you will be on the right track.
Another good tip i got when starting was allways cool/hose there head/brain asap after trial because it could lead to loss of sight over time.
I drive over two hours to get mine checked welcome to dogs mate lol
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