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Do you have questions regarding the health of your greyhound? Do you need tips what you should feed your dog?
Or do you need advice in curing an injury?

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Ivan Scott
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22 Oct 2015 21:11


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I have a new greyhound in my kennels who pants heavy like a steam engine after a 20 minute walk, so I thought swimming would be an alternative but, 30 seconds of swimming she turned on her side and was struggling, got her to the bank and she just stood still, hyper panting,breathing was restricted and her chest and stomach muscles were rock hard.
I massaged chest area and tummy muscles for 20 seconds and repeated the same with a 10 second intervals, after the third time she was wobbly in her legs and swaying side to side and this went on for a minute until she came good. She then had a roll in the grass a shake or two and walked back to the trailer.

Could anyone put some light to her problem and what should I do before I trial and race her. She has had 17 starts for 2 wins earlier in her career?


Carole Brown
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22 Oct 2015 21:18


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Ivan, sounds like she could be very anaemic, possibly an infection/virus, or have enlarged tonsils, which can restrict her breathing. Best get her to a vet and get her bloods done, and her tonsils checked. Good luck.


Bill Deguara
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22 Oct 2015 22:58


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IVAN SCOTT wrote:

I have a new greyhound in my kennels who pants heavy like a steam engine after a 20 minute walk, so I thought swimming would be an alternative but, 30 seconds of swimming she turned on her side and was struggling, got her to the bank and she just stood still, hyper panting,breathing was restricted and her chest and stomach muscles were rock hard.
I massaged chest area and tummy muscles for 20 seconds and repeated the same with a 10 second intervals, after the third time she was wobbly in her legs and swaying side to side and this went on for a minute until she came good. She then had a roll in the grass a shake or two and walked back to the trailer.

Could anyone put some light to her problem and what should I do before I trial and race her. She has had 17 starts for 2 wins earlier in her career?

IVAN;

if YOU HAVE ONLY HAD THIS DOG FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. I would suggest that you give her time to get to know you ,dogs are like kids they fret when they go to a new kennel.
Just let her layabout for a few days and just muck about with her till she gains your confidence.
If this fails I would do as CAROL suggested and get a few tests done.


Sandro Bechini
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22 Oct 2015 23:02


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bill deguara wrote:

IVAN SCOTT wrote:

I have a new greyhound in my kennels who pants heavy like a steam engine after a 20 minute walk, so I thought swimming would be an alternative but, 30 seconds of swimming she turned on her side and was struggling, got her to the bank and she just stood still, hyper panting,breathing was restricted and her chest and stomach muscles were rock hard.
I massaged chest area and tummy muscles for 20 seconds and repeated the same with a 10 second intervals, after the third time she was wobbly in her legs and swaying side to side and this went on for a minute until she came good. She then had a roll in the grass a shake or two and walked back to the trailer.

Could anyone put some light to her problem and what should I do before I trial and race her. She has had 17 starts for 2 wins earlier in her career?

IVAN;

if YOU HAVE ONLY HAD THIS DOG FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. I would suggest that you give her time to get to know you ,dogs are like kids they fret when they go to a new kennel.
Just let her layabout for a few days and just muck about with her till she gains your confidence.
If this fails I would do as CAROL suggested and get a few tests done.

Agree with Bill and Carol



Ivan Scott
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23 Oct 2015 01:31


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Will do and thank you so much for advice much appreciated Carol, Bill and Sandro.


Patrick D'Arcy
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23 Oct 2015 08:18


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Isin't it amazing how many problems are solved using common sense? From what I've read of the more complex problems on the forum, more often than not Carole Brown comes to the fore. Bravo Carole


Carole Brown
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23 Oct 2015 09:18


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Thank you, Patrick. That's very kind of you. I help where I can, as we have been in dogs for a long time, and have come across many, many of the problems that people come across with their dogs.


Patrick D'Arcy
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23 Oct 2015 10:02


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And obviously Carole, you applied a lot of common sense whilst gaining that experience... hope you keep contributing on here well into future as your input is always welcome


Carole Brown
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23 Oct 2015 10:16


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Thank you.


Ivan Scott
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27 Oct 2015 05:09


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I have been to a local vet and he advises my greyhounds pathology report fails to reveal a specific setiology it's in the normal range.

The only obvious part that I read says,
Red cells: occasional Polychromasia
White cells: normal
Platelets: normal

The Albumin reading is 34g/l and the range is (23-34)

Her heart was normal.

Any thoughts, I haven't given her much work just letting her settle in but still panting hard, could be the different climate from the coast to inland dry heat?/



Carole Brown
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27 Oct 2015 05:15


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Ivan, what were the haemoglobin, red cells and PCV ( haematocrit ) readings ? Polychromasia isn't normal. It seems to be tied up with anaemia. Did he also have a good look at her tonsils ? Something is still obviously not right.


Ivan Scott
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27 Oct 2015 06:56


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I'm a bit new at this, so here goes

Hb is 211 g/l,
RCC 8.2 x 10 1/2 / L
Hct 0.57
MCV 70fL
MCH 26pg
MCHC 368 g/l
The combined Albumin/Globulin ratio is 1.7

Her tonsils were normal Carole?




Carole Brown
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27 Oct 2015 09:47


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Are there any more readings, Ivan ? The haemoglobin is too high and the PCV ( HCT ) is lower than it should be, and out of whack compared to the haemoglobin reading. Ideally. the hb should be 20 and the pcv 60. Its HB reading is what you usually get when a dog is dehydrated. If that reading is brought back to normal, then the PCV will drop also, so in that case, you end up with anaemia, not enough red cells, and that may be the reason for the polychromasia. Was the vet a greyhound vet ? The other readings, if you have them, would be beneficial in trying to determine the reason.
Are you giving her daily electrolytes at all ? If so, which one ?


Ivan Scott
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27 Oct 2015 18:31


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Carole, following is the report.
WBC
Neut 6.2 Lymp 3.9 Mono 0.4 Eos 0.0 Baso 0.0

Sodium 145, Potassium 3.9, chloride 112, Bicarbonate 21, Anion Gap16, Urea 9.6, Creatinine 170,Plasma Glucose 4.5, Serium Glucose 5.3, Bilrubin 5umo, AST 67U/L, ALT 87U/L, GGT 11U/L, Alkaline Phosphate72U/L, Protein 54g/L, (Albumin 34g/L, Globulin 20g/L, RATIO 1.7)Calcium 2.49mmo/LPhosphate1.05mmo/L, Creatine Kinase 172U/L, Cholesterol 3.5mmo/L, Triglyceride 0.4mmo/L, Haemolysis Nil, Icterus Nil.

They are not a greyhound practice closest is 4 hours away.
Not on any electrolytes,(what is the safest to use)

Thank You Carole, I appreciate your help.


Carole Brown
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27 Oct 2015 19:03


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Vytrate is pretty safe to use, Ivan and/or Aminoforte. No need for daily use, just when racing/trialling, or when it is very hot.
What was the total WBC count ? There should have been a number next to it.
Are you feeding any supplements at all ? Is she getting enough fluids in her meals ? It probably wouldn't hurt to give her some electrolytes now and again while she is in this condition.


Ivan Scott
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27 Oct 2015 19:45


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Carole, WBC was 6.2. Supplement is Rapid Vite Amino GB.. Use Beef stock mixed with water to soften kibble, 1 cup morning and with night feeding.


Carole Brown
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27 Oct 2015 21:11


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WBC are WAY too high, Ivan. I can't see to it now, but I will try to help you later.
You might want to replace the beef stock with plain water, as you are probably giving her too much salt, and causing an imbalance.


Ivan Scott
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27 Oct 2015 23:13


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Ok, Thank You Carole, will use only water.


Sandro Bechini
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28 Oct 2015 00:26


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Ivan

Check the sodium content of your kibble.

Some of them have very high salt contents to make them more palatable and for preservation.



Clint Arthur
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28 Oct 2015 01:17


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Hi Ivan,

I am not a professional with blood result diagnosis but there was a few that stood out.
The 3 in this group
WBC 6.2 high
Neut 6.2 very high points to a bacterial infection
Lymp 3.9 very high

These 2 looked on the high side aswell
AST 67U/L
ALT 87U/L

I think the ALT is direct indication to liver quality.

I am sure there is plenty of other people that know more about this than me but these were the ones that I though stuck out

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