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Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 07:17
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Vitamins Vitamins are the triggering substances that influence a large range of biological functions and as such are an essential part of the racing greyhounds diet. While the body produces some vitamins such as vitamin C and K, unless the diet included a range of vegetables and fruits, the addition of a good quality broad-spectrum vitamin and mineral mixture to the food is recommended. Vitamin A (Retinol) Essential for, eyes, skin, hair, reproduction, adrenal glands, and increases resistance to respiratory infections. Sources: raw meat, cod liver oil, eggs. Vitamin B The vitamins in the B group act together and complement each others function. Stress and antibiotic treatment reduce the levels of the B group vitamins in general, while large doses of vitamin C reduce the function of B12. Sources: grain cereal, raw meat, green leafy vegetables, Turrella yeast and brewers yeast. Unfortunately brewers yeast has been found to cause skin allergies and gut problems in susceptible greyhounds. Some Veterinarians have also found that wheat has a similar effect on some greyhounds and recommend a wheat free diet to many of their clients that have dogs with digestive problems. B1 (Thiamine) Essential for effective protein and carbohydrate metabolism, tissue growth, nervous system, red blood cells, assists circulation. B2 (Riboflavin) Promotes growth of skin, hair and nails, essential for healthy eyes, red blood cells, and immune system. B3 (Niacin) Essential for effective protein and carbohydrate metabolism, nervous system, assists circulation. B5 (Pantothenic acid) Essential for the immune system and adrenal glands, stimulates production of cortisone and adrenal hormones, nervous system, reduces muscle cramping. B6 (Pyridoxine) Essential for the production of DNA, activates enzyme function, aids metabolism of fatty acids, nervous system, red blood cell production, and immune function. B9 (Folic acid) Essential for the production of red blood cells, DNA, and aids protein metabolism B12 (Cobalamin) (Cyanocobalamin injectable form) Essential for the production and regeneration of red blood cells, activates enzyme function. Choline (Part of the B complex) Essential for fat metabolism, aids liver function and in transport and absorption of fat-soluble vitamins. Biotin (Part of the B complex) Assists with the metabolism of protein and fats, required for health of hair and nails. B15 (Pangamic acid) (Di-Isopropylamine Dichloroacetate injection) Involved in tissue and cell oxygenation, fat metabolism, and glandular system. In the injectable form it dilates the blood vessels, assists in cell oxygenation and waste product removal from muscle tissue. Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) Canines produce vitamin C in the gut and generally do not require additional sources in the diet. Of some benefit as a urinary acidifier (oral) to reduce the incidence of urinary tract infections, and in the treatment of spinal disc damage (by injection) Vitamin D (Calciferol) Essential for bone development and the absorption of calcium from the diet Vitamin E Assists circulation, cell oxygenation, fertility. Vitamin K Again produced by healthy canines in the gut, essential for the production of the prothrombin required for normal blood clotting. Hypervitaminosis (excessive vitamins) Hypervitaminosis is more common than Hypovitaminosis (vitamin deficiency) due to the practice of excessive supplementation. More is certainly not better Excess water-soluble vitamins are excreted via the urine and place increased stress on the kidneys, while fat-soluble vitamins are stored and, therefore, are potentially toxic. Excess Vitamin A may result in bone and joint pain, brittle bones and dry skin. Excess Vitamin D may result in very dense bones, soft tissue calcification or bone joint calcification. Anti-vitamins These basically stop the body using the specific vitamin and may therefore cause deficiencies. For example, avidin, found in the egg white of raw eggs may cause a biotin deficiency, and sulphur dioxide widely used as a preservative in knackery meat, destroys the thiamine in the meat and any thiamine supplementation. Sulphur dioxide has also been implicated in reducing the ability of Haemoglobin to carry oxygen throughout the body.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 20:54
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Fellow Forum Members I am somewhat surprised that Greyhound Diets created so much interest in previous posts while Supplementing Vitamins and Minerals was viewed by some as totally unnecessary. 200+ Views on this post - not 1 comment Does that mean you are surprised by the functions of Vitamin Mineral in Racing Greyhounds or that you still don't believe??
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 11 Feb 2017 08:40
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G'day Peter,only just read your'e post & i agree 100% !,i belive most greyhound's can benifit from them,i used Ferramo,& also have used Blackmores vitamins as an alternative which worked well too,along with vitamin C, human grade vitamin E capsules & other supplement's,the dog's always looked fantastic & raced well.( Maybe a case of "long pockets & short arm's",rather than non believer's,lol).
Warren Kempshall Australia (Verified User) Posts 810 Dogs 24 / Races 33 11 Feb 2017 20:49
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Peter
people get a bit bored with all these pages of what we need to do and what we shouldn't do !
I only read what takes my fancy and this isn't one of them ?
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 Feb 2017 21:29
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daryl barrett wrote:
G'day Peter,only just read your'e post & i agree 100% !,i belive most greyhound's can benifit from them,i used Ferramo,& also have used Blackmores vitamins as an alternative which worked well too,along with vitamin C, human grade vitamin E capsules & other supplement's,the dog's always looked fantastic & raced well.( Maybe a case of "long pockets & short arm's",rather than non believer's,lol).
Thank You Daryl - Its great to hear there is someone at the end of effort who is appreciative
Laurence Lee Ireland (Verified User) Posts 507 Dogs 2 / Races 0 11 Feb 2017 21:43
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I use supplements myself but I'm beginning to think there a rip off.I think there's enough vitamin, minerals in good quality dog nuts nowadays.I raced a bitch on Gain Record Breaker on its own before and she raced well and won.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 11 Feb 2017 23:07
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Your'e welcome Peter,whilst other's may not appreciate or agree with supplement use,it is valuable info for young or anyone else learning the craft of training & the nutritional need's of greyhound's whilst in work & racing,at the end of the day,it's entirely up to the traner what they choose to feed,what they choose not to & how they cchoose to prepare their greyhound's for racing & to be able to keep them at their peak fitness before they plateau out & train off,that's the beauty of training i guess....we all have our own opinion,it doesn't mean that you,myself & other trainer's who believe in the benefits of supplement's are right or wrong,just our choice i guess,but i am,like many, a BELIEVER.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 11 Feb 2017 23:30
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Just because it don't intrest you Warren,it may be of intrest to other's,but why post about your'e boredom about these type of post's???,maybe you were "bored" of other post's,lol,it's easy mate...just don't read the post,( you must have read it before you replied to it,after all, you said,"it didn't take your'e fancy").There's post's that might not intrest me too,but i don't see the point of having a "crack" at someone because it doesn't take my fancy,that is what a forum is about,sharing experience & knowledge isn't it??.
Warren Kempshall Australia (Verified User) Posts 810 Dogs 24 / Races 33 12 Feb 2017 07:27
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Your word Daryl
that is what a forum is about,sharing experience & knowledge isn't it??.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 12 Feb 2017 08:16
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Exactly Warren,this is what Peter has chosen to do,share with other's,his experience & knowledge of greyhound nutrition,as i said,if a post doesn't intrest you,than don't read it....easy.( Sometime's critisism is an easier option ,than due respect to someone else's opinion or thought's ).
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 12 Feb 2017 08:34
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Daryl, I think Peter is lecturing experienced greyhound trainers who have won hundreds of races.its the old story of theory and practice this is why people are turning against Peter.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Feb 2017 09:11
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Jack I am intrigued by your profile 0Dogs Races 1 Please explain?
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 12 Feb 2017 09:23
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G'day Jack,maybe that's what it look's like,but i don't think this is his intention.I remember attending a seminar a few year's back at the Greyhound Social Club at Yagoona at which,Paul Wheeler spoke about his knowledge & experience,& answered question's from other prominent trainer's about his method's,breeding & diet's,but that didn't mean that everyone walked away from that seminar adopting Paul's method's,thought's & opinion's,the point is Jack,no one has to take other people's experience & knowledge as gospel,but if a trainer is open to trying to find way's to improve their greyhound's performance through legitimate way's & adopt change's that may benefit their greyhound through the experience & knowledge of people like Paul Wheeler,John Konke,your'e self, & dare i say,Peter,good on them,that's their choice,just as it is, not to.Cheer's Jack.(Again,if someone's post doesn't take your'e fancy,or people find it a boring opinionated lecture,then just don't read it,what is so hard about that???).
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Feb 2017 12:47
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Daryl Thank you for your support There appears to be a few sensitive new age guys out there I have a thick hide There is a lot of support from Data members via phone and email Greyhound Data is a great medium to communicate with Greyhound participants It would be easier to ignore the antagonists however whilst respecting their opinions it is necessary to answer their posts
Warren Kempshall Australia (Verified User) Posts 810 Dogs 24 / Races 33 12 Feb 2017 20:20
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Daryl
I tell you my opinion and because it don't suit your agenda you jump up and down like a Circus Clown! If you don't like it don't read it ! again you word ?
Peter Bryce PM meAustralia (Verified User) Posts 129 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 08:17
Warren Kempshall Australia (Verified User) Posts 810 Dogs 24 / Races 33 12 Feb 2017 20:23
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Daryl
I tell you my opinion and because it don't suit your agenda you jump up and down like a Circus Clown! If you don't like it don't read it ! again you word ?
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 12 Feb 2017 20:30
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Peter Bryce wrote:
Jack I am intrigued by your profile 0Dogs Races 1 Please explain?
That means I have not entered any dogs into the data breeding base .now your next smart question.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Feb 2017 20:55
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Jack Ogilvie wrote:
Peter Bryce wrote:
Jack I am intrigued by your profile 0Dogs Races 1 Please explain?
That means I have not entered any dogs into the data breeding base .now your next smart question.
Jack so have you Trained Greyhounds??
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 12 Feb 2017 21:15
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Of course I have ,my first winner was a bitch called curtesy queen who won a juvenile race in in 1968 , plus she won 12 other races. Just so you may win a greyhound trivia competition .Q who trained Temlees first city winner. A .............. Plus Peter I trained 3 winners on the one night at wang . Then a winner at Geelong and Bendigo all in the same week plus many more.plus I'm a part owner of the current GOTY at Grafton.Trained by the Northern rivers area of NSW. champion training duo Sonia and warren kempshall.who for the past 3 years have won the Grafton Trainer of the year premiership, plus dog of the year.And you try and lecture Warren. ROFLMAO.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Feb 2017 21:28
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Jack Ogilvie wrote:
Of course I have ,my first winner was a bitch called curtesy queen who won a juvenile race in in 1968 , plus she won 12 other races. Just so you may win a greyhound trivia competition .Q who trained Temlees first city winner. A .............. Plus Peter I trained 3 winners on the one night at wang . Then a winner at Geelong and Bendigo all in the same week plus many more.plus I'm a part owner of the current GOTY at Grafton.Trained by the Northern rivers area of NSW. champion training duo Sonia and warren kempshall.who for the past 3 years have won the Grafton Trainer of the year premiership, plus dog of the year.And you try and lecture Warren. ROFLMAO.
Jack - Lecture?? Please post the lecture So you have Trained Was the diet you fed in 1968 the same as what the majority are feeding today?? Kibble Meat?? My point is Sports Science has changed in all Sports Greyhound Racing has been left behind
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