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Herbs That Are Good For Dogs

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This is for Jack ..lol

Chia Seeds contain large quantities of protein, five times the calcium of milk, boron (a trace mineral that aids in the absorption of calcium into the bones), Omega oils 3 and 6, and can help regulate blood sugar levels and aid in maintaining a healthy weight. The seeds of chia plants can help maintain healthy cholesterol levels and blood pressure, and reduce risk of heart disease. These seeds have no discernible odor and almost no taste, which means they can be added to your dog's meals without altering the flavors he loves. Seeds can be ground, eaten raw, or added to water, which will cause the seeds to produce what is called chia seed gel. This gel helps clean out intestines and slows digestion, allowing your dog's body to absorb more of the incredible nutrients that chia seeds provide.

Spirulina is a microscopic algae in the shape of a perfect spiral coil. It contains the most remarkable concentration of nutrients known in any food, plant, grain or herb. Its the highest protein food- over 60% all digestible vegetable protein with the highest concentration of beta carotene, vitamin B-12, iron and trace minerals and the rare essential fatty acid GLA (gamma-linolenic acid). Both test-tube studies and animal-based research suggest that spirulina may help to strengthen the immune system, improve gastrointestinal health, aid in detoxification, reduce the rate of cancer, and help allergies.

Some HERBS & SPICES WHICH ARE NOT SAFE FOR DOGS:

Cocoa
Comfrey
Mace
Ma Haung (Ephedra)
Nutmeg
Paprika
Pennyroyal
Table Salt
Tea Tree Oil
Wormwood

My personal Fav are these Jack
These all come in one product
Canadian ..Made

Tribulus terrestris
(Standardized 35% Saponins)
Epimedium sagittatum
Kelp
Siberian Ginseng

Michael
Congratulations
Someone has finally posted something of value - Some actual FACT
Go back to one of my very early posts

"Rice is very high in Glycogen = Muscle fuel
Bread next level down - I hear trainers say I wont feed Bread - What do you think is in Kibble??
The two features of Kibble are
1 The Glossy Bag
2 The food Colour - In every batch to make them look the same - They probably aren't
3 Salt min 1% Massive issues caused by salt
Why feed cooked meat with salt when you already feed fresh meat
Why cook Vegetable, Bread when you can feed fresh.
Anyone wish to guess how much nutrient is "COOKED" out of Kibble
So why the colour and Salt
Colour to make batches look the same
Salt to preserve the Kibble
Trainers tell me it is "Only Fill"
SORRY do you think Usain Bolt would perform on a diet of McDonalds After all "It is only fill"

Several Members read into my articles what suited them at that point in time.
AGAIN Interpretation leads to Misrepresentation.

We all have different opinions and that is what makes discussions interesting.
I'm not sure if some have read your articles with their own agendas.
Can I suggest that they may have viewed your "approach" as a point of irritation, maybe?

"Interpretation leads to Misrepresentation."
Obviously a favourite saying of yours.
Turn it around and you might find the source of your detractors.

Kibble is useless...been saying it for years.
Some will disagree...that's fine.
C'est La Vie.

I can tell them that the change from Kibble and Meat to the "Greyhound Diet" produces results - with the same Greyhound.

I am not suggesting it is the ONLY diet, many vary it to suit individual Greyhounds.

My first thread was Greyhound Diets - Then all hell broke loose
Only to find that those who were offended by my Thread in fact fed other than Kibble Diet.

Human Beings are a strange breed.

Quote..."Hello Hello we found out further down the line that they generally agreed with my first post Greyhound Diets."

WHO agreed, Peter?

I think maybe even Jack O agreed ..

There is no agenda here Pete and Jacks supporter base is natural organic..

Kevin
Why then are you misquoting me by suggesting that I recommended FLOUR??

"Rice is very high in Glycogen = Muscle fuel
Bread next level down - I hear trainers say I wont feed Bread - What do you think is in Kibble??

When dogs roamed the earth they hunted for their meals in the wild, pursuing the nutritional balance they craved, a grain-free blend of multiple, high quality proteins, fruits and vegetables. Carnivores digestive organs were not designed to digest plant materials but they are ideal for breaking down, absorbing and utilizing proteins, bones and fat. A balanced, grain-free diet high in meat proteins provides dogs with necessary and valuable nutrients.

grainfree provides your dog with a holistic balanced formulation, is free from grains and fillers, high in protein, has no artificial (flavours, colours or preservatives), and is made from a real meat recipe that is naturally good for your dog.

Because it is grain free you can be assured that it is high in natural fats and oils and contains all the essential vitamins and minerals that your best friend needs.

grain free formula, no wheat, corn, or cereals this is an all natural holistic blend.
Improved digestibility and taste that may provide relief from most food allergy symptoms.

More meat rich real meat injection.
High nutrient proteins to help aid lean muscle development.

Excellent palatability

High quality ingredients with optimal nutrients, increases palatability.
Balanced skin and coat conditioners

Contains omega 3 and 6 Fatty Acids to help maintain healthy skin and coat.
Prebiotics

the building blocks for intestinal health that support and nurture the dogs inside.
Healthy immunity

A healthy active lifestyle and proper nutrition can help support a dogs immune system

Helps prevent bad breath
A healthy digestion and GI tract, helps prevent bad breath.

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein Min 26.0%
Crude Fat Min 14.0%
Crude Fibre Max 5.0%
Salt (Sodium Chloride) Max 1.2%
Calcium Min 1.0%
Phosphorous Min 0.8%
Metabolizable Energy kcal/100g 350
Ingredients:
Meat (Poultry meat & meat,duck & meat meals), vegetables & vegetables meals (including potato, peas, carrots, pumpkin), potato & Tapioca starch, Tallows & oils (Poultry and Vegetable), Beet Pulp, Chicken Digest, Oil seeds (Canola & Linseed), Egg Powder, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vitamins (A, D, E, B1, B5, B6, Niacin, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, B12) and Minerals (Calcium, Phosphorus, Iron, Zinc, Copper, Manganese, Iodine, Selenium), Kelp Meal, Choline Chloride, Soy Lecithin Powder, Dried Chicory Root, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Garlic Powder, Tomato Powder, Potassium Sorbate, Natural Antioxidants.

Attention! Some dogs are allergic
Most dogs arent allergic to rice, but some have been known to have an allergic reaction after eating rice, both brown and white. Symptoms are usually itchy skin, hair loss, hot spots and ongoing ear infections. If you notice some of these and you have been feeding your dog rice, stop feeding him rice immediately

Dogs are known to be omnivores, which means they eat practically anything. They like both meats and non-meats, including fruits and vegetables and even grains.
Some veterinarians suggest dogs should eat foods that contain rice as an ingredient, while others say rice should be added as a supplement to the basic diet, since it is easily digestible.

White rice can be a handy supplement if your pooch has diarrhea, but a rice only diet would not provide enough essential nutrients.

Brown Rice Vs. White Rice
Brown rice will provide more protein and less fat to your dog, however, it is more expensive and it takes much more time to prepare. White rice is cooked instantly and is great for treating an upset stomach or diarrhea. White rice is also easy to chew, so it is an excellent energy source for older dogs when added to their regular diets.

My Cooking tip for the day
Preparing white rice

Basically, preparing rice for your dog is pretty much the same as preparing it for yourself:

Boil 1 cup of instant white rice in 4 cups of water for 20 to 30 minutes until the water cooks up.

Fluff the rice with a fork and let it sit.

Wait for it to cool off and when it is cool enough to serve, mix it with regular dog food, other cooked meats, or cooked hamburger for diarrhea.

BREAD is FLOUR pete ...so just mix up the dry stuff and bake and serve as fresh baked bread ..I suggest lining the tin with greaseproof paper Pete ..

So are you suggesting that you add Rice to this Kibble??
The reference to rice as Supplement to the Diet??
What amount of Rice and what amount Kibble
Also how much meat - Say for a 30kg dog??
Or is this Kibble fed alone without additional Meat??

Taken from your post

"Dogs are known to be omnivores, which means they eat practically anything. They like both meats and non-meats, including fruits and vegetables and even grains.
Some veterinarians suggest dogs should eat foods that contain rice as an ingredient, while others say rice should be added as a supplement to the basic diet, since it is easily digestible."

Kevin
The issue with Wheat - Flour is that it doesn't digest readily
Put Flour in a stocking and swing it back and forward in a bath tub of water - It wont break down
It sits in the gut and intestine and inhibits the absorption of nutrients - The glue like substance clogs the digestive system.
Cheese has the same affect. Sit cheese in a bowl of water - It wont break down

However Dextrose on the other hand is a fine powder from Wheat
Mozzarella Cheese is a powder and both are more readily digestible

You dont understand all dogs are different and can vary depending on the time of the Year and what work loads you place on them and you must allow a Greyhound time to recover and what you suggest maybe will work for some dogs and Trainers but not for some others.

Example is the amount of Fat and Water you need to keep a dog going in the dry heat where temps can reach 40 deg every day for weeks and these dogs need fuel to burn kidneys to flush ....
Just like when it gets to low temperatures you have to adjust what fuel you need and the DOG TELLS YOU HOW HE PULLED UP and thats a trainer's job to ensure he gets the best out of his dogs over a extended period of time .

You are saying everyone should feed what you say and you also say you will improve a greyhounds performance ....

Jacks Products
in fact his products all assist many dogs who have problems that initially started when they started using HARSH KIDNEY FLUSHES like the product you sell

Everything he says about his products is true but stop attacking Jack and do your thing but DON'T MAKE a Statement THAT WE must all feed your way or we are DOING ALL WRONG ..

Do you think so many of us are doing it wrong ..

Diet is the key of course it is and inside that diet you give nice clean products to assist along the way ..and you dont need any of your Kidney flushes or diets to control something you need to adjust for each dog and Yes Diet is the most important aspect of Training ..

If we are to believe what you say Pete then wow a lot of Trainers must be dumb hey ....

Small adjustments here and there assist your dog and it shows as i said every dog is different and i am not avoiding answering anything Pete ..

Maybe it;s you with the Blinkers on and maybe it's just you who cannot see the forest through the tree's ..

You want to talk diets then talk pre Training and racing diets Puppy diets and this area alone covers so much .than what you suggest ...

The old ABC 's you skipped A and B and you have jumped to C but lets cover the full diet of a Greyhound from start to finish ..

CLICK HERE Above is a Thread about Puppies
I am happy to comment on Puppy Diets there

Thanks Kevin.mmm yes I use these fantastic products in my calcium plus ,I have used chia and spirulina plus more in my calcium plus for 8 years. Any one wanting to check out my CP go to my greyhound performance page on all topics.No BS there.