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Do you have questions regarding the health of your greyhound? Do you need tips what you should feed your dog? Or do you need advice in curing an injury?
Jason Caley Australia (Verified User) Posts 385 Dogs 6 / Races 0 11 Mar 2014 12:34
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Jack Gatty wrote:
A dog should get all those vitamins in his normal feed and selenium from red meat so it looks to me that only the thistle would be aiding the liver - so why not just use milk thistle by itself? Any reason not to? cheers
Not that I'm aware of. Milk Thistle 7000mg tablets available from any chemist/pharmacy work great. I would guess the Taurine in the other formulas can't hurt as its a good anti-oxidant and a little underrated in greyhound circles but well respected in sled dog racing.
EDIT (additional comment): Selenium in red meat varies significantly depending on which part of the country it is sourced from. Useful to add Stockgain or similar if in a selenium deficient area.
Tom Welsh Australia (Verified User) Posts 2112 Dogs 67 / Races 11 18 May 2014 23:02
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Hi all
What dosage is recommended for assisting the liver if I was to use one of the following:
Hepar DTM Milk Thistle Livatone Livamol
My dog is quite anaemic and its a battle keeping on top of it - so although I am now treating the anaemia he is showing signs of liver stress / damage so would like to help him out.
Cheers
Andrew Paraskevas Australia (Verified User) Posts 984 Dogs 55 / Races 22 18 May 2014 23:18
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Tom Welsh wrote:
Hi all
What dosage is recommended for assisting the liver if I was to use one of the following:
Hepar DTM Milk Thistle Livatone Livamol
My dog is quite anaemic and its a battle keeping on top of it - so although I am now treating the anaemia he is showing signs of liver stress / damage so would like to help him out.
Cheers
If you are just "maintaining" an issue, one tablet a day should suffice. If you are trying to correct a deficiency I start with 2 tablets (one morning, one night) for 5-7 days and then drop it back to 1 a day. From a few of the articles I read, some of the bigger trainers add 1 tablet a day as a part of their feeding regime.
I've never heard of Livamol aiding a liver problem.
Tom Welsh Australia (Verified User) Posts 2112 Dogs 67 / Races 11 18 May 2014 23:24
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Thanks Andrew - so if I scrap Livamol, your advice applies to all three?
Which do you recommend? Hepar DTM?
Andrew Paraskevas Australia (Verified User) Posts 984 Dogs 55 / Races 22 19 May 2014 01:57
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Tom Welsh wrote:
Thanks Andrew - so if I scrap Livamol, your advice applies to all three?
Which do you recommend? Hepar DTM?
I've used both Livatone and Hepar DTM tablets and used them with success the way I described. I have never used Milk Thistle tablets though.
Tom Welsh Australia (Verified User) Posts 2112 Dogs 67 / Races 11 19 May 2014 02:51
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Thanks Andrew - great work.
Noel McCaskie Australia (Verified User) Posts 1122 Dogs 23 / Races 5 01 Jun 2014 05:45
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would anybody like to give some advice on signs on liver problems please
Cheers
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15481 Dogs 0 / Races 1 01 Jun 2014 06:38
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Without doing tests.your dog will be a touch sluggish.Look at the whites of the dogs eye it should be white ,without a brownish tinge,or brown spots.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 01 Jun 2014 06:39
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A brown stain around the mouth can also be an indication of a liver problem.
Noel McCaskie Australia (Verified User) Posts 1122 Dogs 23 / Races 5 01 Jun 2014 06:54
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Thanks Jack and Carole,does weight loss and loose stools come into it as well?
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 01 Jun 2014 07:16
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Not usually, Noel. If you are worried about the dog, a full blood profile will give you answers. Has the dog been wormed lately ?
Noel McCaskie Australia (Verified User) Posts 1122 Dogs 23 / Races 5 01 Jun 2014 07:20
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Carole my dogs are fine,im just putting the questions out there for future reference,hope you dont mind. Thanks
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 01 Jun 2014 07:41
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OK, Noel.
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Nov 2014 17:33
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rex jones wrote:
what to use for liver problems
Here are some Lipotropic combinations that are extremely useful at detoxifying, healing , protecting & regenerating liver cells from damage that can help you keep all your K9's livers in 100% perfect condition , health & full functioning order at all times & when used in correct intervals liver complaints or illness will be the last thing you will have to worry about : Milk Thistle, Lecithin ,Choline , Methionine , Inositol , Dandelion , Alpha-Lipoic Acid , Astragalus & Licorice Root. All of these suppliments can be used quite safely - when used in correct dosages in relation to a K9's weight. Make sure to use restraint when supplementing with these Lipotropic combination factors to a K9 to rectify any liver disorders. Also some of these suppliments have great antioxidant properties as well. I hope some of this information can be of assistance to you or anybody else that wants to maintain liver health in their K9's at all times. All the best Rex.
David McGrath Ireland (Verified User) Posts 978 Dogs 47 / Races 4 04 Nov 2014 19:00
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Hi Rex
Post up his liver function test along with a full blood count and kidney function test and you might get some evidence based advice
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Nov 2014 19:27
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David McGrath wrote:
Hi Rex
Post up his liver function test along with a full blood count and kidney function test and you might get some evidence based advice
I'd hate to see all the vet bills a lot of people are chalking up these days ! If you have a strict regular preventative maintenance regime , keep a close eye on your k9 then you rarely need to see a vet ! prevention is better than a cure cos by then it to late & ya k9 is out if action 4 ??? weeks. Vet bills , what vet bills ?
Mark Duffy Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1327 Dogs 24 / Races 3 04 Nov 2014 21:40
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Could someone have a look at a full blood result test for me..... ALT reading is very high
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4615 Dogs 11 / Races 0 04 Nov 2014 22:49
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steve harvey wrote:
David McGrath wrote:
Hi Rex
Post up his liver function test along with a full blood count and kidney function test and you might get some evidence based advice
I'd hate to see all the vet bills a lot of people are chalking up these days ! If you have a strict regular preventative maintenance regime , keep a close eye on your k9 then you rarely need to see a vet ! prevention is better than a cure cos by then it to late & ya k9 is out if action 4 ??? weeks. Vet bills , what vet bills ?
you are what the greyhound racing doesnt need in our sport. vets are a must to trainers and owners,
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 05 Nov 2014 03:55
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4 all the precautions and preventative measures you take 4 ur k9s it is impossible to prevent infections, viruses, conditions of nature. Every k9 is different and not immune to chronic issues. A vet's access to testing technology is irreplaceable. Without them you are blind, therefore all efforts can be futile. A good Grey vet is a major tool to YOUR k9s health and maximum performance.
Steve, totally agree with your maintenance attitude, but to dismiss the importance of a good Grey vet is lunacy. Good luck...(and to your k9s) you will need it.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 05 Nov 2014 04:10
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common sense can take you along way too.Take two recent instances at my place .Dogs running around like idiots and broodbitch (not pregnant)has a gash deep enough you can see thru to the bone on part of leg that connects to chest.Rush to the vets and stitch no i didnt i got a staple gun pulled the skin together and along with antibiotics and iodine powder handled it myself.SEcond dog returns from trainer missing end of tail ,enough where tail bone is exposed by an inch.Rush to the vets no i got the nail clippers and peeled the skin right and cut the bone back flush with the skin.Once again antibiotics and iodine powder reguarly and after a set back or two its completely healed over in three weeks.Vet cost for both approx with travelling and time $300-350.Of course once things dont work out its straight to the vets.If you have a racing dog and he loses form or lacking energy than a full blood test should be a first port of call and is an invaluable tool but some things arent rocket science and the vets charge like they are.
Do you have questions regarding the health of your greyhound? Do you need tips what you should feed your dog?
