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Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 12 Sep 2014 09:20
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simon moore wrote:
well u were the one who asked the question.
And I know the answer Simon.....ZERO
Can you elaborate on the mating's that you know about from your last statement???
simon moore wrote:
well considering there r not a large number of these matings
I'm intrigued.
Cheers......Steve
PS.
The closest to the 2 x 2 that I know of in recent DECADES (in Aust that was a city winner) is CLICK HERE
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 12 Sep 2014 09:29
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steven martin wrote:
simon moore wrote:
well u were the one who asked the question.
And I know the answer Simon.....ZERO
Can you elaborate on the mating's that you know about from your last statement???
simon moore wrote:
well considering there r not a large number of these matings
I'm intrigued.
Cheers......Steve
PS.
The closest to the 2 x 2 that I know of in recent DECADES (in Aust that was a city winner) is CLICK HERE
so why ask the question, lol.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 12 Sep 2014 09:43
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steven martin wrote:
Can you elaborate on the mating's that you know about from your last statement???
simon moore wrote:
well considering there r not a large number of these matings
Why make statements that you can't answer.
I've answered yours.
I knew you'd dodge the above statement.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 13 Sep 2014 00:01
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steven martin wrote:
steven martin wrote:
Can you elaborate on the mating's that you know about from your last statement???
simon moore wrote:
well considering there r not a large number of these matings
Why make statements that you can't answer.
I've answered yours.
I knew you'd dodge the above statement.
cause u want to argue for the sake of it it appears.
I'm not going through finding them for u, u can do that yourself if u think its so important. go for your life.
Darren John McKenzie Australia (Verified User) Posts 507 Dogs 40 / Races 24 13 Sep 2014 00:23
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I've search a few pedigree's over the years and I don't think I ever come across a pedigree bred like 'Turbo Lennie' i.e. linebred/inbred 2x2 to the same male, here in Australia.
So I don't think anyone could possibly suggest anything
'Turbo Lennie' exists - the pattern has worked and repeated another 2x times and they worked going by data.
'Collision' can breed a quick runner - and this mating is with his fastest son !!
Funny thing about inbreeding..........no rights/wrongs the better the quality used............assumptions mean little
Personally, track racing greyhound breeding is years behind other breeding games for experimentation...........horse breeding even further behind again............but each thinks it has all the answers to best production methods..........and followers within each are even more biased I read........and mostly best avoided
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 13 Sep 2014 02:14
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simon moore wrote:
cause u want to argue for the sake of it it appears.
I'm not going through finding them for u, u can do that yourself if u think its so important. go for your life.
Simon I'm not arguing with you as I've answered your questions.
Your the one arguing as you avoid answering your own statements.
Anyway, it doesn't bother me if you can't answer it.
I'm happy to leave it at that.
Have a nice day ;-)
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 13 Sep 2014 03:58
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steven martin wrote:
simon moore wrote:
cause u want to argue for the sake of it it appears.
I'm not going through finding them for u, u can do that yourself if u think its so important. go for your life.
Simon I'm not arguing with you as I've answered your questions.
Your the one arguing as you avoid answering your own statements.
Anyway, it doesn't bother me if you can't answer it.
I'm happy to leave it at that.
Have a nice day ;-)
I'm not avoiding anything.
they r there for all to see.
there r not a lot of those matings. how am I wrong?
u seem to think that's incorrect. I don't know how tbh.
Anthony McVicker Australia (Verified User) Posts 1439 Dogs 24 / Races 126 29 Oct 2014 10:05
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Quaility bitch Topline Doovee had 2 dogs and 4 bitches surprise surprise ALL BLACK.
Would you have a baby with your half sister? Paul wheeler did a mating that was pretty inbred but id say it was accidentally achieved. These breeders of this litter should rethink, plain insanity.
I agree with steve Simon.
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Oct 2014 16:55
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steven martin wrote:
steven martin wrote:
Can you elaborate on the mating's that you know about from your last statement???
simon moore wrote:
well considering there r not a large number of these matings
Why make statements that you can't answer.
I've answered yours.
I knew you'd dodge the above statement.
I think he meant not too many inbred dogs about Steve whoops or not many breeders are gaim enough to try it MacDonald did from Glider fame so di Hodges from Thunder lane fame there would be others I guess.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 29 Oct 2014 19:55
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My litters due sunday.Interested too see what colours i get my bitch is pure white with black ticks so a blank canvas really but being out of T.P im guessing plenty of blacks.
James McJannet Australia (Verified User) Posts 380 Dogs 3 / Races 0 29 Oct 2014 21:26
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Darren John McKenzie wrote:
I've search a few pedigree's over the years and I don't think I ever come across a pedigree bred like 'Turbo Lennie' i.e. linebred/inbred 2x2 to the same male, here in Australia.
So I don't think anyone could possibly suggest anything
'Turbo Lennie' exists - the pattern has worked and repeated another 2x times and they worked going by data.
'Collision' can breed a quick runner - and this mating is with his fastest son !!
Funny thing about inbreeding..........no rights/wrongs the better the quality used............assumptions mean little
Personally, track racing greyhound breeding is years behind other breeding games for experimentation...........horse breeding even further behind again............but each thinks it has all the answers to best production methods..........and followers within each are even more biased I read........and mostly best avoided
What about this one CLICK HERE racing at the moment.
Darren John McKenzie Australia (Verified User) Posts 507 Dogs 40 / Races 24 29 Oct 2014 21:52
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Nice notice James.........
I see a BOD win at Canberra too........as a maiden.
I never had much luck breeding a male half brother/sister (2x2).................although it has produced for us some quality breeding females.........
Got to remember that this type of mating is rarely ever done........but I can tell you, if you've got a top line producing daughter of a 'noteable' male...........and you mate her to that 'noteable male's' best producing son.......thus half brother/sister (2x2)......you can deliver for yourelf quality in the offspring...........top quality often overcomes 'supposed' breeding rules.......
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 29 Oct 2014 23:07
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John McAlister wrote:
steven martin wrote:
steven martin wrote:
Can you elaborate on the mating's that you know about from your last statement???
simon moore wrote:
well considering there r not a large number of these matings
Why make statements that you can't answer.
I've answered yours.
I knew you'd dodge the above statement.
I think he meant not too many inbred dogs about Steve whoops or not many breeders are gaim enough to try it MacDonald did from Glider fame so di Hodges from Thunder lane fame there would be others I guess.
its very clear. some people just want to play silly buggers.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 29 Oct 2014 23:17
I ask everybody this question. Would you retire a k9 to stud after breaking a track record at its 1st start against nothing ? I'd be trying 2 win some big bucks on the track with him ! PLENTY of k9's can run time in low grades but when put up against a field of quality opposition sorts em out real quick trust me ! no malice here but I wouldn't use him & at $1650 a go , must be kidding in my opinion. no offence here , but not 4 me.
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