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Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 16 Oct 2015 22:07
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Ray Morcomb wrote:
What a fraud
care to elaborate?
r u just bitter? lol.
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 16 Oct 2015 22:15
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Simon, if Ray heard what I did then he's very much justified by his statement. If it's true then I feel sorry for anybody that used him. I think you can work it out!
simon moore wrote:
Ray Morcomb wrote:
What a fraud
care to elaborate?
r u just bitter? lol.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 16 Oct 2015 22:35
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Don't feel sorry for me Gordon mine are 12 months old and absolutely hum along.Most have been able to keep up with my 30secs meadows bitch free galloping since they were 9 mnths old.Fierce competitors galloping against one another and anything they grab onto.Ive suspected he ran on the edgar allan as well but reliable sources tell me he was breaking 300m track records out west well before he raced and it would seem silly too soup him up for that.If the rumour is that he was a fighter than that goes with that lines territory.Wont stop him either way from what ive seen of his pups. They would have sold him too China if they weren't confident in what they had.Time will tell.
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 16 Oct 2015 22:40
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Ok James, I don't feel sorry for YOU anymore!!! :)
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 16 Oct 2015 22:51
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Thanks Gordon.I appreciate people coming on and relaying concerns but without actual facts and the accusation its a bit of a witch hunt.I remember talking to Harry sarkis one day about knocka Norris and he said he wouldn't touch him with a 40 foot pole and I regret now listening too him.He was a great sire wasted thru negativity.
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4615 Dogs 11 / Races 0 17 Oct 2015 01:19
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james saunders wrote:
Don't feel sorry for me Gordon mine are 12 months old and absolutely hum along.Most have been able to keep up with my 30secs meadows bitch free galloping since they were 9 mnths old.Fierce competitors galloping against one another and anything they grab onto.Ive suspected he ran on the edgar allan as well but reliable sources tell me he was breaking 300m track records out west well before he raced and it would seem silly too soup him up for that.If the rumour is that he was a fighter than that goes with that lines territory.Wont stop him either way from what ive seen of his pups. They would have sold him too China if they weren't confident in what they had.Time will tell.
no wounder we have waisted
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 17 Oct 2015 02:15
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james saunders wrote:
Thanks Gordon.I appreciate people coming on and relaying concerns but without actual facts and the accusation its a bit of a witch hunt.I remember talking to Harry sarkis one day about knocka Norris and he said he wouldn't touch him with a 40 foot pole and I regret now listening too him.He was a great sire wasted thru negativity.
There's no witch hunt in the slightest, let's just see how this plays out.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 17 Oct 2015 02:44
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Well if the dog serving isn't the dog that raced at wenty that nite than yes we have a problem anything else will just add him too along line of dogs not racing on there merits that went too stud.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 17 Oct 2015 02:54
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Gordon Herbert wrote:
Simon, if Ray heard what I did then he's very much justified by his statement. If it's true then I feel sorry for anybody that used him. I think you can work it out!
simon moore wrote:
Ray Morcomb wrote:
What a fraud
care to elaborate?
r u just bitter? lol.
well spit it out then.
calling a dog a fraud then saying nothing is silly.
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 17 Oct 2015 03:50
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simon moore wrote:
Gordon Herbert wrote:
Simon, if Ray heard what I did then he's very much justified by his statement. If it's true then I feel sorry for anybody that used him. I think you can work it out!
simon moore wrote:
Ray Morcomb wrote:
What a fraud
care to elaborate?
r u just bitter? lol.
well spit it out then.
calling a dog a fraud then saying nothing is silly.
Saying something with out proof is far more silly :)
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4615 Dogs 11 / Races 0 17 Oct 2015 04:04
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Gordon Herbert wrote:
simon moore wrote:
Gordon Herbert wrote:
Simon, if Ray heard what I did then he's very much justified by his statement. If it's true then I feel sorry for anybody that used him. I think you can work it out!
simon moore wrote:
Ray Morcomb wrote:
What a fraud
care to elaborate?
r u just bitter? lol.
well spit it out then.
calling a dog a fraud then saying nothing is silly.
Saying something with out proof is far more silly :)
why say something at all. hear say. and as far as i no the dog won his race and all was fine
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 17 Oct 2015 04:16
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michael bowerman wrote:
Gordon Herbert wrote:
simon moore wrote:
Gordon Herbert wrote:
Simon, if Ray heard what I did then he's very much justified by his statement. If it's true then I feel sorry for anybody that used him. I think you can work it out!
simon moore wrote:
Ray Morcomb wrote:
What a fraud
care to elaborate?
r u just bitter? lol.
well spit it out then.
calling a dog a fraud then saying nothing is silly.
Saying something with out proof is far more silly :)
why say something at all. hear say. and as far as i no the dog won his race and all was fine
I'm just justifying Ray's comment and haven't stated anything as fact. Enough said, I'll wait and see if the hearsay stays hearsay.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 17 Oct 2015 04:28
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But whats the hearsay?At least give a hint because the way you and Ray are talking its a dog duplication because anything else unfortunately wont be career ending that's just the way greyhounds are now days.Nothing fazes.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 17 Oct 2015 04:51
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Gordon Herbert wrote:
simon moore wrote:
Gordon Herbert wrote:
Simon, if Ray heard what I did then he's very much justified by his statement. If it's true then I feel sorry for anybody that used him. I think you can work it out!
simon moore wrote:
Ray Morcomb wrote:
What a fraud
care to elaborate?
r u just bitter? lol.
well spit it out then.
calling a dog a fraud then saying nothing is silly.
Saying something with out proof is far more silly :)
he's already said fraud.
what proof is there to give labels like this?
spill the beans or be quiet, lol.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 17 Oct 2015 05:16
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If you pull a fast one you bury the evidence by selling him to China.By keeping him and knocking back big offers and continuing to keep this dog under these repressed breeding conditions is enough proof for me.
Mickey McLennan Australia (Verified User) Posts 73 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Oct 2015 07:35
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We have invested our time, effort and not to mention quit a lot of money in getting our Shaokey kids to 9 months. There is an old saying, 'If you can't say somethng nice about someone or in this case, dog, then don't say anything. Our bitch is DNA tested and if there is any concern, her puppies will be DNA tested as well. I presume Shakey has also been tested so with a full test with quite a few markers, proof could be found instantly. If your insinuations are correct I am guessing that a class action would be formed by those who have used the dog, against the owner, etc. I like our puppies, though no expert on greyhounds, and if Shakey's kids do turn out well, who has the last laugh??? I can not see how someone knocks back a lot of money for a dog, then puts in a ring in. It's Shakey Jakey, not Fine Cotton.
Michaele Alderdice Australia (Verified User) Posts 569 Dogs 0 / Races 1 17 Oct 2015 07:57
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You guys are unbelievable . This dog gets more knockers then any I know . I have a litter by Keneally to him and they are really good pups " My old mans words best we have had without a clock on them " . I am confident some of these pups will fly .
Anthony McVicker Australia (Verified User) Posts 1439 Dogs 24 / Races 126 17 Oct 2015 08:38
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The dog is not sold and is going no where, in 12-18mths time we will all know whether he is successful or not.
We are hearing positive things from his first few litters but there is a long way to go yet
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 17 Oct 2015 09:31
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The dog that served my bitch is definetly Shakey and he stamps his progeny with his looks so no probs there,as for anything synthetic than that puts out a ton of stud dogs in the last decade.Make no mistake about that..
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 17 Oct 2015 09:57
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I'm crying fancy calling Shakey a Fraud how could one say these things people are down on the dog and down on the Pringles but I will say this in the 50 years I have been about the dogs Shakey The Fraud sure has plenty of mates ...james stick with ya pups mate your doing it right and if Shakey fought well that means nothing
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