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Branko Lezaja Australia (Verified User) Posts 663 Dogs 2 / Races 0 24 Feb 2017 02:50
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Hi Fellow Data Members, recently I exchanged emails with one of the LNP's best mates Peter V'landys & no surprise he came up with some golden bulldust regarding our industry & the email containing the bulldust is pasted below for all to see.
P.S For the record I didn't blame the ponies (thoroughbred industry) for our industry's predicament but "my mate Peter" seems to be paranoid LMAO.
Hi Branko
Thank you for your email. Appreciate the passion you have in your industry. Unfortunately your conclusions have been reached with very wrong information.
Firstly the Intercode is a very complex agreement which took nearly 18 months to negotiate. Off course TAB turnover is just one component of many considerations Your current spokesman Brenton Scott was one of the negotiators on the Intercode for the Greyhound industry and was happy to sign off on it.
For the record NSW Greyhounds TAB turnover makes up 5.23% of the total TAB turnover. The vast majority of TAB turnover comes from bets placed on Interstate meetings. Further Racing NSW only receives approximately $170 million in TAB distribution.
Also with no involvement whatsoever from the management of the NSW Greyhound management Racing NSW through its initiatives such as Racefields legislation Trackside legislation and Tax parity has been able to gain an additional $20 million per year for the NSW greyhound industry. Unfortunately your industry has been let down by poor management and not the intercode or the NSW thoroughbred racing industry. Hope you can take an objective look at the above and realise our position.
Regards Peter
Yours Sincerely,
Peter V'landys Chief Executive Officer Racing NSW Level 7, 51 Druitt Street, Sydney NSW 2000 Phone: 02 9551 7555 Fax: 02 9551 7570 Website EXTERNAL LINK
Truck Mcnamara Australia (Verified User) Posts 563 Dogs 3 / Races 0 24 Feb 2017 03:02
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Just a lying lowlife Branko
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 24 Feb 2017 04:57
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Sorry but I have to agree with him..."Unfortunately your industry has been let down by poor management "" there it is..!!
Noel McCaskie Australia (Verified User) Posts 1122 Dogs 23 / Races 5 24 Feb 2017 05:22
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
Sorry but I have to agree with him..."Unfortunately your industry has been let down by poor management "" there it is..!!
And it will be let down AGAIN with a certain person who was mentioned as signing off on the intercode once before, He needs to WALK like bullshit Baird did and the sooner the better
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 24 Feb 2017 05:31
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Hi Branko,
Could you please post a copy of your email sent to Peter V'landys?
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 24 Feb 2017 05:34
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Noel McCaskie wrote:
Malcolm Smart wrote:
Sorry but I have to agree with him..."Unfortunately your industry has been let down by poor management "" there it is..!!
And it will be let down AGAIN with a certain person who was mentioned as signing off on the intercode once before, He needs to WALK like bullshit Baird did and the sooner the better
Its happening NOW, with all these new rules and regulations passing without consultation...
Branko Lezaja Australia (Verified User) Posts 663 Dogs 2 / Races 0 24 Feb 2017 06:21
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Tony Digiorgio wrote:
Hi Branko,
Could you please post a copy of your email sent to Peter V'landys?
Hi Tony,
I'd love to post the email I sent to Peter but it's so nicely worded (without foul language) & some of the references made in it would be deemed unacceptable by the Forum Admin & would be deleted instantly.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 24 Feb 2017 09:15
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Noel McCaskie wrote:
Malcolm Smart wrote:
Sorry but I have to agree with him..."Unfortunately your industry has been let down by poor management "" there it is..!!
And it will be let down AGAIN with a certain person who was mentioned as signing off on the intercode once before, He needs to WALK like bullshit Baird did and the sooner the better
Spot on Mal & Noel anyone who endorsed the I.C.A. on behalf of the N.S.W. Greyhound Industry should have been eradicated years a go G.B.O.T.A included.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 18 Mar 2017 19:19
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Branko, did you ask V'Landys how he and other thoroughbred industry participants , Why and how they knew of the impending ban before the announcement and the corrupt election took place. I'd love to know he's explanation.
Grant Dunphy Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 4 / Races 1 18 Mar 2017 19:33
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The single important part of that reply is where he admits we have been let down by poor management. This admits our present position financially is not where it should be & therefore needs to be brought up & compensation made for past years. We need GRNSW commercial board management structure now to ensure we have a proper input into decisions made for our future & the Alliance should be pushing for that immediately.
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 18 Mar 2017 19:42
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Who cares what he says.
Our industry sponsors the gallops & trots with millions of $$$ we should ask for advertising rights at the winning post.
Delusions of grandeur from a bloke who is not even liked by his own participants & only one step away from being knifed in the back himself by the board.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 18 Mar 2017 23:04
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Won't happen as long as his Master J.Messara is calling the shots.
Bill Deguara Australia (Verified User) Posts 314 Dogs 4 / Races 1 19 Mar 2017 23:20
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when MR. VLANDY says Brenton scott was one of the negotiators who signed the ICA he is right but what he forgot to mention is That MR VLANDY actually walked out [so much for negotiating] on the first meeting and refused to agree to terms that were on that particular agreement, Also he forgot to mention that the greyhound unqualified representatives were told at the time By the Minister to JUST GO IN AND SIGN,so trying to tell us that everything was being done above board is nothing but pure unaldarated bullshit.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 20 Mar 2017 01:13
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Bill Deguara wrote:
when MR. VLANDY says Brenton scott was one of the negotiators who signed the ICA he is right but what he forgot to mention is That MR VLANDY actually walked out [so much for negotiating] on the first meeting and refused to agree to terms that were on that particular agreement, Also he forgot to mention that the greyhound unqualified representatives were told at the time By the Minister to JUST GO IN AND SIGN,so trying to tell us that everything was being done above board is nothing but pure unaldarated bullshit.
Bill, in your above post you have singled out THE one element that has been responsible for All of the industry's problems.
"the greyhound unqualified representatives"
It is the one component of the industry that has been responsible for bad decisions and good decisions not made. Although I'm sure unintentional, the people of power within the industry have not had the experience nor foresight to make the decisions that count. It's all been a bowl of spaghetti. It is the INDUSTRY, not the Govt, regulators, or the associations that need representatives that are completely professional, ruthless, competent, and creative to legally pave the way for the industry to prosper. Until there is a 'Board of Industry Rights and Integrity' this industry will continue in free fall and failure.
I'm hesitant to go further because of the real danger of being castrated. Who knows, if I get drunk enough one night I might start on an essay.
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 20 Mar 2017 01:49
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Mark Staines wrote:
Won't happen as long as his Master J.Messara is calling the shots.
He holds no executive positions anymore. Barry OFarrell took over his job as Chairman
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 20 Mar 2017 02:14
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You mean Trusty O Farrell lol.
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 20 Mar 2017 03:05
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Glenn Hatton wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
Won't happen as long as his Master J.Messara is calling the shots.
He holds no executive positions anymore. Barry OFarrell took over his job as Chairman
Doesn't mean he doesn't call the shots...influence goes a long, long way...
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 20 Mar 2017 03:12
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grant thomas wrote:
Glenn Hatton wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
Won't happen as long as his Master J.Messara is calling the shots.
He holds no executive positions anymore. Barry OFarrell took over his job as Chairman
Doesn't mean he doesn't call the shots...influence goes a long, long way...
Does it?!
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 20 Mar 2017 04:04
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Glenn Hatton wrote:
grant thomas wrote:
Glenn Hatton wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
Won't happen as long as his Master J.Messara is calling the shots.
He holds no executive positions anymore. Barry OFarrell took over his job as Chairman
Doesn't mean he doesn't call the shots...influence goes a long, long way...
Does it?!
OH YEAH...How much YOU got tied up in the horses...think about it...just beat the mining industry didn't he...??/...influence...
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 4166 Dogs 3 / Races 3 20 Mar 2017 06:08
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Bill Deguara wrote:
when MR. VLANDY says Brenton scott was one of the negotiators who signed the ICA he is right but what he forgot to mention is That MR VLANDY actually walked out [so much for negotiating] on the first meeting and refused to agree to terms that were on that particular agreement, Also he forgot to mention that the greyhound unqualified representatives were told at the time By the Minister to JUST GO IN AND SIGN,so trying to tell us that everything was being done above board is nothing but pure unaldarated bullshit.
If that is the case Bill, the agreement is finished.
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