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Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 15 May 2017 10:12
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Mark Donohue wrote:
EXTERNAL LINK . Sandro, A full read of the link is a better and clearer understanding of what the Trust did to prepare the track and how they tried to remedy it.
No Mark
I know how to read.
The problem was before the meeting. The damage was done well before the meeting.
Call it whatever you want to call it.
Is it an ego trip, arrogance, bureaucratic bungling or just a failure to follow the track maintenance policy for harrowing of tracks?
Why deeply harrow a track when heavy rain is forecast the next day?
"GRNSWs initial review of the Wentworth Park meeting on Saturday night indicates that track staff at Wentworth Park deep harrowed the track on Thursday, despite a forecast of rain for the following day.
Unfortunately, the fact that it rained on Friday was a contributing factor that led to the five races being abandoned due to the surface not consolidating.
If the Wentworth Park track staff had consulted with GRNSW, they would have been advised not to deep harrow with rain predicted to fall in the next 48 hours."
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3237 Dogs 6 / Races 0 15 May 2017 11:18
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Sandro, you previously only copied some of media release. It is better for everyone to read the entire release. I'm not suggesting you can't read. I don't know where you got that from ? . That's what I'm suggesting. It wasn't GRNSWs fault. It was the fault of the Trust. The full media release explains it better.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 15 May 2017 12:27
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We can all read, its how you interpret it
No point looking at what they tried to do when it was too late
The damage was done by not following a proven policy earlier in the week.
They did their own thing and got it wrong.
Bill Deguara Australia (Verified User) Posts 215 Dogs 2 / Races 0 15 May 2017 12:44
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
We can all read, its how you interpret it
No point looking at what they tried to do when it was too late
The damage was done by not following a proven policy earlier in the week.
They did their own thing and got it wrong.
sandro ,has anyone at GRNSW or employed by Grnsw ever followed a proven policy or to be MORE exact has there ever been a PROVEN POLICY at GRNSW,
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 15 May 2017 12:49
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bill deguara wrote:
Sandro Bechini wrote:
We can all read, its how you interpret it
No point looking at what they tried to do when it was too late
The damage was done by not following a proven policy earlier in the week.
They did their own thing and got it wrong.
sandro ,has anyone at GRNSW or employed by Grnsw ever followed a proven policy or to be MORE exact has there ever been a PROVEN POLICY at GRNSW,
I don't know Bill. Do you know?
But one thing I do know is that you don't need to be a horticulturist or a licensed greenkeeper to know that if you dig up a patch of dirt before a heavy rainfall that the soil will not be able to be compacted adequately to have heavy traffic on it the next day
Gary Smith Australia (Verified User) Posts 3320 Dogs 6 / Races 14 15 May 2017 22:58
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My final thoughts on this issue and food for thought, as a former director who attended all board meetings for three years I witnessed track preparation done at Wentworth park on a Saturday morning this included harrowing, rolling, matting and watering, this happened every Saturday before a race meeting and yet no previous track surface problems and some of the race nights were the wettest I have seen. As this had always been the normal procedure that never had a problem then the question must be asked as track surface problems are surfacing everywhere at clubs E>G Goulburn for one, what has happened to this procedure and who is making clubs do things. I suggest a quick talk with your local club manager will clear that matter up as what I have seen that some are made to do before a meeting is ludicrous. GBOTA and trust had a system that worked whether I agreed with it or not but I had seen what they done with no complaints during a meeting about the surface, so really think what has changed.
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 16 May 2017 02:30
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Gary Smith wrote:
My final thoughts on this issue and food for thought, as a former director who attended all board meetings for three years I witnessed track preparation done at Wentworth park on a Saturday morning this included harrowing, rolling, matting and watering, this happened every Saturday before a race meeting and yet no previous track surface problems and some of the race nights were the wettest I have seen. As this had always been the normal procedure that never had a problem then the question must be asked as track surface problems are surfacing everywhere at clubs E>G Goulburn for one, what has happened to this procedure and who is making clubs do things. I suggest a quick talk with your local club manager will clear that matter up as what I have seen that some are made to do before a meeting is ludicrous. GBOTA and trust had a system that worked whether I agreed with it or not but I had seen what they done with no complaints during a meeting about the surface, so really think what has changed.
there it is in a nutshelll.....thanks gary common sense. (which isn't very common)
Simon Milgate Australia (Verified User) Posts 2043 Dogs 23 / Races 0 20 May 2017 00:45
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Just wondering how do you think track will play out this week?
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3237 Dogs 6 / Races 0 20 May 2017 02:25
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If they've listened to how to prepare a track, they're a big chance of completing the meeting. Ba ha !!
Jason Bolwell Australia (Verified User) Posts 130 Dogs 44 / Races 1 20 May 2017 05:15
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Prepare it how they did 2 years ago and you will have no problems
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3237 Dogs 6 / Races 0 20 May 2017 07:25
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They need to get with the times. Most are on board.
Adam Crouch Australia (Verified User) Posts 103 Dogs 3 / Races 0 14 Feb 2018 21:55
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Credit where credit is due, the Wenty surface was great last night. And most importantly per the stewards report, no injuries were obtained throughout the meeting. I was also told the surface was prepared just as well on Saturday night.
It's good to see GRNSW officials held a crisis meeting on the Thursday after the abandonment, and we've seen immediate rectifications.
Geoffrey Monish Australia (Verified User) Posts 61 Dogs 0 / Races 0 16 Feb 2018 01:47
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Gosford abandoned today Maybe they sent Wilson to Gosford (WP ok without him)
Ian Bradshaw Australia (Verified User) Posts 251 Dogs 6 / Races 0 16 Feb 2018 02:40
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geoffrey monish wrote:
Gosford abandoned today Maybe they sent Wilson to Gosford (WP ok without him)
Greyhound Racing New South Wales (GRNSW) advises that the Gosford meeting on Friday, 16 February has been abandoned due to safety concerns about the state of the track and the associated welfare concerns.
Following an inspection of the track this morning, the surface has been deemed unsuitable for racing.
GRNSW will be working with the NSW GBOTA to ensure that racing can return to Gosford as soon as possible.
Any compensation will be made in the usual way in accordance with the Greyhound Racing Rules and existing GRNSW policies.
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