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Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 25 Nov 2017 21:27
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Last nights QLD election results would have to be a worry . The green are now a major player in Australian politics,and will be doing deals with the Alp.As we have seen in the past the greens and AR will continue with their ways to shut down our industry.
Nathan Trigg Australia (Verified User) Posts 516 Dogs 20 / Races 28 25 Nov 2017 22:04
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Jack you could see the worry from both the major parties and it was stated by the LNP that if these nutjobs actually gain a seat they will shut down Queensland.....
Ross Farmer Australia (Verified User) Posts 208 Dogs 0 / Races 1 26 Nov 2017 00:46
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Slightly restating another relevant post.
Unfortunately, there are too many vocal minorities that believe in their own moral superiority, and then seek to impose their subjective views and culture to the detriment of others who responsibly conduct legal activities.
They seem to believe that their self-assumed moral superiority gives them the right to dictate to governments of all persuasions on social and economic policy.
And then use derogatory terms as racist or redneck to put down and stereotype opponents, being most ordinary Australians, as guilty and living in the past.
Unsurprisingly, their arguments tend to be emotionally based; usually devoid of fact, and mis-stating facts.
With the rise of minor parties, major parties are becoming more reliant on preferences to stay in power.
When power becomes more important than principle, some areas eg greyhound racing become 'expendable', regardless of which party (NSW - Lib, ACT - Labor). This is when preference deals with these minority groups are a worry.
But there are also public service areas that are susceptible to unbalanced influence. Some vocal groups work them far better than the fragmented greyhound industry (eg McHugh inquiry in NSW - use of invalid 'facts' & anti-greyhound 'experts', Chief Vet Officer report in Vic - no consultation with participants).
With the industry promoter, operator & regulator roles being performed by public authorities, no public position on important issues will be taken. This is left to political masters.
This is why effective lobbying to government is important, particularly the Racing Minister (& shadow Racing Minister). Unless we express a voice, by both individuals and industry, greyhound racing is exposed.
Not aware of any such activity for the Qld election. Would also have expected something from the SFF party, but not sure how big that party is in Qld.
Robert Morris Australia (Verified User) Posts 695 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 01:22
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The trend to minor parties & particularly Greens is a concern. It is highly likely that Labor will not win majority & need Greens to form govts in nsw, vic, tassie or federally at future elections. In fact Tassie is almost a certainty to be a Labor/Greens govt after their next election.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 26 Nov 2017 01:52
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The mere fact that we are talking about this is reason to be very afraid.
The only party that has any presence of Ozism and is not open to bribery from the loonies is the SFF party. They need to expand at a tremendous rate and align themselves with a powerful pro animal industries lobby group. IMO they won't be able to become big enough under the banner of SFF's. I'm even more convinced now that this political party needs to encompass ALL animal industries and hobbies, representing them as ONE MAIN PARTY. Every single animal industry out there has become aware of the need for serious political protection.
It's time, Mr. SFF, to take those three elements and roll them into a huge green and Looney crushing machine and go forth and multiple!
There has never ever been a better and much needed time as NOW!
There are many many seats out there waiting for you.
Michael Floyd Australia (Verified User) Posts 803 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 04:37
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Robert Morris wrote:
The trend to minor parties & particularly Greens is a concern. It is highly likely that Labor will not win majority & need Greens to form govts in nsw, vic, tassie or federally at future elections. In fact Tassie is almost a certainty to be a Labor/Greens govt after their next election.
I've never understood why the ALP needs to sell out to the Greens. Are the Greens ever going to side with the other side?
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 26 Nov 2017 04:46
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Michael, although I don't like the Alp and greens they are dangerous if the form a joint government .That alliance had Tasmania on its knees until the last election.people are right we need to form a support association with the SFF party ,I will become a member to save our industry. We need Leadership or else we will be history if the lunatics ( greens ) get control.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 26 Nov 2017 04:49
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Jack Ogilvie wrote:
Michael, although I don't like the Alp and greens they are dangerous if the form a joint government .That alliance had Tasmania on its knees until the last election.people are right we need to form a support association with the SF party ,I will become a member to save our industry.
I will become a member too, jack. I just wish they take the bull by the horns and give it their all.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 26 Nov 2017 04:54
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Michael Floyd wrote:
Robert Morris wrote:
The trend to minor parties & particularly Greens is a concern. It is highly likely that Labor will not win majority & need Greens to form govts in nsw, vic, tassie or federally at future elections. In fact Tassie is almost a certainty to be a Labor/Greens govt after their next election.
I've never understood why the ALP needs to sell out to the Greens. Are the Greens ever going to side with the other side?
The ALP and almost any other party will sell out to keep themselves in a job. It's the way politics is now, Michael. baird and the greens were a great example. Dirty dirty business now with absolutely no morals whatsoever. Think as low as you can and you have it. Time for the people to stand up and say they are not taking it anymore.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 26 Nov 2017 05:06
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Michael Floyd wrote:
Robert Morris wrote:
The trend to minor parties & particularly Greens is a concern. It is highly likely that Labor will not win majority & need Greens to form govts in nsw, vic, tassie or federally at future elections. In fact Tassie is almost a certainty to be a Labor/Greens govt after their next election.
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I've never understood why the ALP needs to sell out to the Greens. Are the Greens ever going to side with the other side?
The greens are to the nutter side of the socialist side of the ALP ,the will never have an alliance with those to the right of politics ,well I hope they wouldn't
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 26 Nov 2017 06:01
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Nothing is good about greens.
Nasal discharge is green.
Puss is green.
Gangrene is green.
Vomit is green.
There is nothing good about it. Not even box 6 is that good.
Ban the colour green off the colour and political charts forever!
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 07:01
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It remains to be seen if the Greens do any good in Qld. Wait for the final numbers.
The Q about ALP and Greens is very clear. The Greens are eroding Labor votes so Labor tries to some extent to copy what the Greens put up. At the same time Labor knows it can generally get the Greens to vote on the Labor side. So they win both ways but it is a negative way of doing business. The Greens only policies are to stop things happening so if Labor gets into power (alone or in a coalition) it could cause Labor some difficulties. It depends on the balance of power.
Alternatively, in the ACT the Greens got in first and forced Labor to adopt yet another of their negative policies - ie banning racing. Same thing, different timing. They also got in in Northcote (Melbourne) but Andrews still has the numbers so it is not critical yet. The next full election will tell.
I am tempted to support SFF but purely because I like the way Borsak has run things. However, I am not sure about the long term or about their other views. But building them up is a much better option than allowing Greens to grow.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 26 Nov 2017 07:32
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I forgot...slime is green too. It tends to dislike everything. :)
Michael Floyd Australia (Verified User) Posts 803 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 08:47
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Jack Ogilvie wrote:
Michael, although I don't like the Alp and greens they are dangerous if the form a joint government .That alliance had Tasmania on its knees until the last election.people are right we need to form a support association with the SFF party ,I will become a member to save our industry. We need Leadership or else we will be history if the lunatics ( greens ) get control.
No doubt. My point is, I've never understood why the ALP needs to kowtow to anything Green. 90% of Green preferences go to the ALP and there's numerous examples of Labor adopting Green policies hurting their own party.
The Greens will never side with the conservative parties, so why does the ALP think they need to 'win' Green support?
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 09:05
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Nothing is good about greens.
Nasal discharge is green.
Puss is green.
Gangrene is green.
Vomit is green.
There is nothing good about it. Not even box 6 is that good.
Ban the colour green off the colour and political charts forever!
The "Mighty Raiders" play in Green, Mick. $100 notes are also Green, I luv em! and Kermit was Green. I rest my case for the Greens
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 26 Nov 2017 09:30
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Terry Jordan wrote:
Michael Geraghty wrote:
Nothing is good about greens.
Nasal discharge is green.
Puss is green.
Gangrene is green.
Vomit is green.
There is nothing good about it. Not even box 6 is that good.
Ban the colour green off the colour and political charts forever!
The "Mighty Raiders" play in Green, Mick. $100 notes are also Green, I luv em! and Kermit was Green. I rest my case for the Greens
The Raiders haven't won a prem since 1911, $100 notes aren't much good if you haven't got 'em, and Kermit can only pull a pig. Only thing you might be able to "score" the greens on is dope is green, which kinda makes sense.
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 26 Nov 2017 09:33
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The Greens will never side with the conservative parties, so why does the ALP think they need to 'win' Green support?
TOP COMMENT MICK...
Paul Haig Australia (Verified User) Posts 57 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 10:00
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just got off the SFF party facebook page scrolled through hundreds of points of the SFF agenders and not one item on their page relating to the troubled greyhound industry ,I wonder if they even know what trouble our is industry is really in or am I missing something .Maybe their not all their cracked up to be in Queensland
Arthur Mccumiskey United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 78 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 12:20
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i dont think youre getting enough greens mate.
Raymond Peter Fewings Australia (Verified User) Posts 248 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Nov 2017 21:09
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Well, after all that it looks like the ALP doesn't need the greens so it might not be a bad result except that QRIC may not be reined in.