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Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 11 Apr 2019 09:32
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I have seen this on another thread and was wondering why they think this. Cheers Ted.
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 12 Apr 2019 07:14
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edward (ted) howard wrote:
I have seen this on another thread and was wondering why they think this. Cheers Ted.
Ryan should be able to tell you Ted.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 12 Apr 2019 08:44
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edward (ted) howard wrote:
I have seen this on another thread and was wondering why they think this. Cheers Ted.
Hi Ted,
I do know how the 18.8 % is derived..............the first generation BMO/Outlandish in this example CLICK HERE each of those is worth 50%.
The 2nd gen, 4 dogs each worth 25% The 3rd gen, 8 dogs each worth 12.5% The 4th gen, 16 dogs each worth 6.25%
Therefore in this case Awesome Assassin & Brett Lee in the 3rd(12.5%) & 4th gen(6.25%) = 18.75% rounded off to 18.8% each
So any dog duplicated in the 3rd & 4th gen of any pedigree wld equal 18.8% in the blood quota table.
I wldn't mind it included in a pedigree but it's not something I wld consider ultra important to have. and vastly different to the percentages I talk about. You're not alone in wanting to know why Ted. Cheers.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 12 Apr 2019 10:18
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 12 Apr 2019 11:13
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That's one of the reasons I asked as my bitch comes up 18-8 to Gable Dodge 18-8 Just the Best when mated to Zinzan Brooke and I could do with a lot of magic at the moment.Thanks for replys fellas I appreciate it.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 12 Apr 2019 11:19
Another flying machine that just smashed the Clock at Geelong !!!!!!
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 12 Apr 2019 11:40
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So basically what it is is a 3x4 matchup thanks fellas.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 12 Apr 2019 18:13
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edward (ted) howard wrote:
So basically what it is is a 3x4 matchup thanks fellas.
3x4 gives your 18,8 3x3 gives you 25% 2x3 gives you 37.5 % Here is a example of inbreeding CLICK HERE
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 12 Apr 2019 20:33
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
edward (ted) howard wrote:
I have seen this on another thread and was wondering why they think this. Cheers Ted.
Hi Ted,
I do know how the 18.8 % is derived..............the first generation BMO/Outlandish in this example CLICK HERE each of those is worth 50%.
The 2nd gen, 4 dogs each worth 25% The 3rd gen, 8 dogs each worth 12.5% The 4th gen, 16 dogs each worth 6.25%
Therefore in this case Awesome Assassin & Brett Lee in the 3rd(12.5%) & 4th gen(6.25%) = 18.75% rounded off to 18.8% each
So any dog duplicated in the 3rd & 4th gen of any pedigree wld equal 18.8% in the blood quota table.
I wldn't mind it included in a pedigree but it's not something I wld consider ultra important to have. and vastly different to the percentages I talk about. You're not alone in wanting to know why Ted. Cheers.
Ryan,
Can you explain why there are dogs with the 18.8% factor running last at Mudgee, Wauchope and Pott's Park?
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 12 Apr 2019 20:37
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Here are a few examples you may want to comment on as well: -
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 13 Apr 2019 03:40
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Tony don't understand comment on Ryan as he just answered my question and wasn't for or against and there are people who like 3x4 breeding. Cheers ted.
The 18.8% thing isn't magic, it's just good breeding practice. Generally speaking, at 18.8% an ancestor would have enough influence to be a significant factor in a pedigree but not enough to be a genuine risk of bringing in unwanted recessive genes, ie, inbreeding.
Of course, just because an ancestor is sitting at 18.8% on paper doesn't necessarily mean he's 18.8% of a current dog's true makeup - his genes may have all been bred out by then. It's one reason why 'on paper' (theory) breeders usually don't breed much of note.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 13 Apr 2019 08:15
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edward (ted) howard wrote:
Tony don't understand comment on Ryan as he just answered my question and wasn't for or against and there are people who like 3x4 breeding. Cheers ted.
That's because it's a loaded question, Ted. Something only a foolhardy person would consider offering. Ignore & more on.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 13 Apr 2019 08:31
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