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TAB Fixed odds betting applied to Ireland?

Mr John Dore
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How successful is TAB fixed odds betting in Australia and in the racing behind closed doors can the same model be applied to Barking Buzz in Ireland. The Barking Buzz platform is nice but the tote pools are too small to have decent bets. Could the IGB not engage with track bookmakers and come up with some win win solution. When one sees a WA Australian trainer with 6.9 M dollars Prizemoney since the year he took out a license in 1996, why cant the same opportunity be in this side of the world?

David McGrath
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28 May 2020 20:47

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Hi John

I sent this suggestion to the IGB on the 24th of April

We have to look at a different model when racing behind closed doors

Its only a suggestion but Im sure that this type of idea could be developed.

Just a quick response to say that it is most helpful to see the Update on Proposed Racing Arrangements on Talking Dogs this afternoon.

Could I make one recommendation regarding the behind closed doors return to racing, this may already have been considered.

As there is no audience on site, it would seem to me that there will be huge demand for live streaming not alone at home but also abroad.

This is an opportunity of delivering the racing in a completely different manner to the usual Friday and Saturday night fare where all tracks essentially start and finish at the same time.

There will be a significant appetite for racing and we could really push our sport forward by staggering racing and also running off races more quickly.

As an example, I would envisage say, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, 8 tracks running each night, each with 9 races

2 tracks starting at 5pm and 505pm with races at ten minute intervals and the next two on stream at 630 and 635 and the final two at 930 and All streamed on the one platform of talking dogs it would give 72 sequential betting opportunities each evening.

Surely in a time of crisis it is time for Dundalk, Thurles and Kilkenny to be streamed live each evening.

It could be launched as a significant National Greyhound Project and would be very easy to market.

In addition, it would be an ideal vehicle for Multi Race / Jackpot type betting and those owners who do not get the opportunity to see their greyhound racing live can be guaranteed being involved with their dog in a real time scenario.

We have to think outside the box, even if only for the duration of the crisis, and it may persist for a significant period.

Wishing you every good fortune in your endeavours.


Raymond Peter Fewings Australia (Verified User) Posts 248 Dogs 0 / Races 0 28 May 2020 22:30 (1) (0)	Be careful. Fixed odds is very popular but has killed the tote. Make sure you negotiate a higher return from fixed. In Australia it has reduced return to Greyhound boards. Charge bookies for using your fields.

Mr John Dore
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Im play Betfair on Aussie dogs most mornings and the liquidity and action is very good and I imagine has increased since the lockdown on this side of the world. In the IGB think tanks must be over 10 years ago, I suggested the tote be changed into a betting exchange. One old safe arse came out with would that not give rise to cheating I told him he should stick to reading books and walking. Money talks on betting exchanges, its up to the individual to scrutinize. Quality of streaming, good betting platforms and choices and as David says opportune, spaced out , rigid timing is the way to go.
Advertising is also required. I have requested in pubs on a number of occasions for RPGTV dog racing to be put on after the irish and uk horse racing was over. It was surprising, none of the publicans knew the channel existed and quite a few young lads had their phones out when they saw the action.
There is an opportunity for promoting dog racing in pubs and private gatherings. I heard one young lad come out with a statement that I totally concur with I prefer playing dog racing to horses because there are so much better stats to work with for dogs than horses its true you have a better chance to make money on dogs than horses, why are we not singing it?

Mr John Dore
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29 May 2020 08:10

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Another issue that needs to be addressed. Young people these days are worried about their bank accounts and evidence of betting activity and the impact on eligibility for mortgages and loans etc. In this age of plastic cards and online betting, this is a bit of a stumbling block. Another reason why cash should not be done away with I suppose. Its a tricky one. Maybe its just young peoples perception or maybe there needs to be some high up talking with banks and perhaps some legislation with banks to clear the air for young people. After all the banks are the biggest gamblers going.

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