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Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 11 Jun 2020 12:23
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Tom Rees wrote:
Malcolm Smart wrote:
Only hear complaints from ppl without city dogs, talking about interference at the corner , why would you want a 600 start when it would be a corner start..
Only complaints from ppl without city dogs 😂, My dogs have been in 10 group races between them over the last 7 months, my qualm is our city track isnt equal to every other state. Why does the 600m have to be a corner start, the whole track can be rebuilt can it not. The day of on the track viewing at race tracks is past, we need to provide a product for the tv, build tracks that offer the best viewing from anywhere in Australia and ensure the track caters for the best dogs in Australia if we are going to say NSW is the leading state. City 280m racing is a joke!
So just another owner complaining because his dogs can't handle WP boxes..???
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 11 Jun 2020 19:35
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Have a look at grafton on Monday no short dogs this week 8 out of the 12 races are longer trips why would that be .Its because it is city money for the longer distances money talks.Good to see the northern rivers get some good prize money good luck everyone.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Jun 2020 22:36
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Tom Rees wrote:
Malcolm Smart wrote:
Only hear complaints from ppl without city dogs, talking about interference at the corner , why would you want a 600 start when it would be a corner start..
Only complaints from ppl without city dogs 😂, My dogs have been in 10 group races between them over the last 7 months, my qualm is our city track isnt equal to every other state. Why does the 600m have to be a corner start, the whole track can be rebuilt can it not. The day of on the track viewing at race tracks is past, we need to provide a product for the tv, build tracks that offer the best viewing from anywhere in Australia and ensure the track caters for the best dogs in Australia if we are going to say NSW is the leading state. City 280m racing is a joke!
Tom
Malcolm is just playing you.
You did your talking with your feet.
If you were loyal to NSW then Blazing Cartier would be running for sub-standard money over an unsuitable distance and probably lost interest in chasing by now
You and others e.g the Keeping Camps, Nutt/Evans Camp etc are perfect examples , their top greyhounds are going south where there is 2 City meetings with full prizemoney to reward 500m+ greyhounds
NSW are left with the dregs
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 11 Jun 2020 22:44
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NSW has become SQUIB CENTRAL because it is now to expensive to send them to N.Z.
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 11 Jun 2020 22:46
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Very good post Sandro.
I think we need a second city track and it makes sense that it be one that includes 600m racing.
Just my opinion.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Jun 2020 23:05
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I want to make it known that I have nothing against short course racing...I have one myself at the moment, but not in NSW, probably where it should be
All greyhounds of all levels have to be catered for, in our new world, I am just talking about greater reward for the amount of work and patience that goes in to developing longer distance dogs i.e 500m+ and incentives for our faster greyhounds
A second city class meeting with full prizemoney is what is needed and with distances over 500m-600m-700m
In my opinion, GRNSW should be looking at making one of the Richmond meetings a full city meeting
Ray Webster Australia (Verified User) Posts 380 Dogs 72 / Races 27 11 Jun 2020 23:07
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It stands out like the proverbial that racing at Wenty is on borrowed time. The current lease expires in seven years. WILL IT BE RENEWED? NO HOPE. A government assett worth hundreds of million dollars being used by less than 1000 people twice a week??? The GBOTA should have been negotiating an exit plan from Wenty years ago. It's probabaly still not too late to do a deal, however, the longer we go without negotiating compensation, will result in far less benefit to the industry.
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 11 Jun 2020 23:40
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I think grnsw was in process of negotiations for an extension on the lease when the ban came in. From what I was told, the longer our lease the more compensation we may receive to exit it. This may or may not be fact but it sounds fair to assume this would be the case. At the moment I think money is tight and Wentworth park still has better facilities than other alternatives & correct me if Im wrong but other assets like Richmond arent owned by grnsw? So maybe thats a stumbling block also?
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 11 Jun 2020 23:46
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As I stated only owners whinging with 600mtr dogs that are too slow for 500 or not strong enough for 700, btw Gillian is that an alias..???
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Jun 2020 01:23
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gillian wilcox wrote:
59 dogs went around at wenty last night it is time to move on . what a disgrace lets get out of there.
Maybe the effects of the massive drop on the breeding side of the game over the past 5 years being felt.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 12 Jun 2020 02:22
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Ray Webster wrote:
It stands out like the proverbial that racing at Wenty is on borrowed time. The current lease expires in seven years. WILL IT BE RENEWED? NO HOPE. A government assett worth hundreds of million dollars being used by less than 1000 people twice a week??? The GBOTA should have been negotiating an exit plan from Wenty years ago. It's probabaly still not too late to do a deal, however, the longer we go without negotiating compensation, will result in far less benefit to the industry.
The NSW GBOTA are sitting on a Goldmine / Appin that has been nothing more than a trial track for years, VIC SA QUEENSLAND are all straight racing but no not the NSW GBOTA !!!
Doug Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 867 Dogs 1 / Races 0 12 Jun 2020 03:02
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steve harvey wrote:
gillian wilcox wrote:
59 dogs went around at wenty last night it is time to move on . what a disgrace lets get out of there.
Maybe the effects of the massive drop on the breeding side of the game over the past 5 years being felt.
100% Steve but don't say that to some of the genius on here lol
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 13 Jun 2020 01:23
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Malcolm it could be
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 13 Jun 2020 01:34
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gillian wilcox wrote:
Malcolm it could be
Genius's need to stay anonymous
Bill Deguara Australia (Verified User) Posts 215 Dogs 2 / Races 0 13 Jun 2020 05:19
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
gillian wilcox wrote:
Malcolm it could be
Genius's need to stay anonymous
SANDRO I have never met and very unlikely to meet an anonymous Genius because their EGO's won't let them be.
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 13 Jun 2020 08:23
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Ray we could of got good money years ago but now we will get nothing when the lease runs out fancy letting the gbota do any dealings for our future come on GRNSW take over and do something we only need one boss good or bad show us what you are made of.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 13 Jun 2020 21:45
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bill deguara wrote:
Sandro Bechini wrote:
gillian wilcox wrote:
Malcolm it could be
Genius's need to stay anonymous
SANDRO I have never met and very unlikely to meet an anonymous Genius because their EGO's won't let them be.
I have met plenty of genius's who don't want the limelight because they are shouted down by loud-mouthed ignoramuses
Grant Dunphy Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 4 / Races 1 13 Jun 2020 22:58
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Lets not attack each other!!!!!!!!
There are a lot of good points & suggestions put forward in this thread-most I've seen over & over during NSW's decline over the last 20 years.
Point is they are mostly all still relative for W/P now-eg.600m racing/soundproof kennels/full city prize money both nights.
Two extra points I would suggest are a start time of 5pm & an increase of travel money to $100 for first dog & $50 for second,third etc. for those trainers domiciled outside Wollongong/Katoomba & Gosford or an equivalent Kilometre figure.
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