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Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 21 Jun 2020 22:51
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Kevin,
I am not sure which part of greyhound racing you are talking about.
I can recall finding it hard to move around the betting ring on a Thursday night at Beaumont Park because of all the women pushing strollers and babies around the place. Go back further and see a packed house in to see the Maitland Derby run in twilight zone so the miners could attend after knocking off after their shift and the commission room going full bore. Mobs of punters and bookies in the Leger at Wenty and HP. Or, as a youngster, catching the 5pm train out of Central station to Dapto, Bulli and Gosford meetings. Running the odd whippet race was a drawcard, too. But, after rain, you always needed to phone the club to see if the meeting was still on. Often it wasnt.
That was then this is now. The world has changed around us, particularly with the arrival of SKY and its devastating effect on course attendances, customer awareness, the gradual drop-off in average field quality, the failure to improve track layouts (including those where big money has been spent), the rise and rise of anti-racing types trying to cut us down successfully so in Canberra - and the biggest worry of all, the shortage of dogs. Yesterday, fields of six were commonplace from Wagga to Sandown and clubs had to rely on gamblers from Bacchus Marsh to Bourke to Broome.
So, like all of us, I understand some stuff about greyhound racing better than others. But enough to get me by. Just like there are good and bad bookies, good and bad trainers, good and bad clubs, good and bad managers, good and bad breeders. Such is life.
Larry Valenti Australia (Verified User) Posts 2142 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Jun 2020 01:28
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Your dead right Kevin. When I started in WA at the beginning we had packed nights at quali and selection trials . Racing started at a licensed trial track with trophies for stake money partly laid on by a local retailer whom went on to become a noted breeder . Long story short , but you now will find the foundation of now great greyhound participants of WA greyhounds that have brought us to the likes of West on Augie a now modern time national sire . Grassroots must be protected and nurtured , because it is actually the backbone of our industry.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 22 Jun 2020 06:01
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Larry Valenti wrote:
Your dead right Kevin. When I started in WA at the beginning we had packed nights at quali and selection trials . Racing started at a licensed trial track with trophies for stake money partly laid on by a local retailer whom went on to become a noted breeder . Long story short , but you now will find the foundation of now great greyhound participants of WA greyhounds that have brought us to the likes of West on Augie a now modern time national sire . Grassroots must be protected and nurtured , because it is actually the backbone of our industry.
Larry like you i believe at all costs we must protect our Sport and if that means throwing some PRO'S under the bus then so be it .
If it means we race for ribbons so be it as long as i can still breed and race my own stock im a happy camper ..
The facts are without the hobby back yard breeder our sport will be gone within 5 years.
If no one wants to agree with me then look at the way the USA handled there affairs over the years and if the USA still allowed little OTB to race at all tracks then they would of had the numbers to fight any battle ..
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 Jun 2020 08:39
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G'day Kevin, Just to let you know,i whole heartedly agree with yours & others who have the same views & opinions on this.The " grass roots " has & will always be the crutch that props up the greyhound industry as whole.
Kevin Wright wrote:
Larry Valenti wrote:
Your dead right Kevin. When I started in WA at the beginning we had packed nights at quali and selection trials . Racing started at a licensed trial track with trophies for stake money partly laid on by a local retailer whom went on to become a noted breeder . Long story short , but you now will find the foundation of now great greyhound participants of WA greyhounds that have brought us to the likes of West on Augie a now modern time national sire . Grassroots must be protected and nurtured , because it is actually the backbone of our industry.
Larry like you i believe at all costs we must protect our Sport and if that means throwing some PRO'S under the bus then so be it .
If it means we race for ribbons so be it as long as i can still breed and race my own stock im a happy camper ..
The facts are without the hobby back yard breeder our sport will be gone within 5 years.
If no one wants to agree with me then look at the way the USA handled there affairs over the years and if the USA still allowed little OTB to race at all tracks then they would of had the numbers to fight any battle ..
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 22 Jun 2020 09:29
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daryl barrett wrote:
G'day Kevin, Just to let you know,i whole heartedly agree with yours & others who have the same views & opinions on this.The " grass roots " has & will always be the crutch that props up the greyhound industry as whole.
Kevin Wright wrote:
Larry Valenti wrote:
Your dead right Kevin. When I started in WA at the beginning we had packed nights at quali and selection trials . Racing started at a licensed trial track with trophies for stake money partly laid on by a local retailer whom went on to become a noted breeder . Long story short , but you now will find the foundation of now great greyhound participants of WA greyhounds that have brought us to the likes of West on Augie a now modern time national sire . Grassroots must be protected and nurtured , because it is actually the backbone of our industry.
Larry like you i believe at all costs we must protect our Sport and if that means throwing some PRO'S under the bus then so be it .
If it means we race for ribbons so be it as long as i can still breed and race my own stock im a happy camper ..
The facts are without the hobby back yard breeder our sport will be gone within 5 years.
If no one wants to agree with me then look at the way the USA handled there affairs over the years and if the USA still allowed little OTB to race at all tracks then they would of had the numbers to fight any battle ..
G/Day Daryl There are a lot of us who think alike many are to afraid to speak out ..
Many think we need the PRO'S i don't..
There is nothing good about running a Greyhound until they break down as shown by many of the Pro's over the years... Most Pro kennels go through hundreds of Greyhounds every year ..
With all ending up in GAPs and adoption groups all over Australia .
There has to be some limits placed on one man breeding hundreds of Greyhounds a year this does nothing for us and all it does is give the Antis something to use against us when the time suits them...
How many Greyhounds can one kennel train before short cuts are taken if you have over 100 dogs then i can bet my left knacker that most are running around each week sore and injured ...The maths dont stuck up
This is fuel for the Anti's so maybe by me now posting this some may start to listen before its to late ..
Only a VET can administer injectables trainers cannot and muscle men cannot ...
We must stop hiding the facts and what these big kennels inject into Greyhounds still today has me and others shaking our heads in disbelief that this is still happening in 2020 ....
The PRO kennels must stop using muscle repair .....and they need to stop taking short cuts with peptides...
I am only warning you all that this today will be our biggest battle if we are to have a future ..
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 Jun 2020 17:50
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One of the first things i learnt at "Grass roots " level Kevin,was from a wonderful & very knowledgeable trainer,Ted Curran,was patience,& part of that patience with certain injuries was the very,very best vets in the world.His name,some may ask... Dr Time. Sorry that this is slightly off topic everyone.
Kevin Wright wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
G'day Kevin, Just to let you know,i whole heartedly agree with yours & others who have the same views & opinions on this.The " grass roots " has & will always be the crutch that props up the greyhound industry as whole.
Kevin Wright wrote:
Larry Valenti wrote:
Your dead right Kevin. When I started in WA at the beginning we had packed nights at quali and selection trials . Racing started at a licensed trial track with trophies for stake money partly laid on by a local retailer whom went on to become a noted breeder . Long story short , but you now will find the foundation of now great greyhound participants of WA greyhounds that have brought us to the likes of West on Augie a now modern time national sire . Grassroots must be protected and nurtured , because it is actually the backbone of our industry.
Larry like you i believe at all costs we must protect our Sport and if that means throwing some PRO'S under the bus then so be it .
If it means we race for ribbons so be it as long as i can still breed and race my own stock im a happy camper ..
The facts are without the hobby back yard breeder our sport will be gone within 5 years.
If no one wants to agree with me then look at the way the USA handled there affairs over the years and if the USA still allowed little OTB to race at all tracks then they would of had the numbers to fight any battle ..
G/Day Daryl There are a lot of us who think alike many are to afraid to speak out ..
Many think we need the PRO'S i don't..
There is nothing good about running a Greyhound until they break down as shown by many of the Pro's over the years... Most Pro kennels go through hundreds of Greyhounds every year ..
With all ending up in GAPs and adoption groups all over Australia .
There has to be some limits placed on one man breeding hundreds of Greyhounds a year this does nothing for us and all it does is give the Antis something to use against us when the time suits them...
How many Greyhounds can one kennel train before short cuts are taken if you have over 100 dogs then i can bet my left knacker that most are running around each week sore and injured ...The maths dont stuck up
This is fuel for the Anti's so maybe by me now posting this some may start to listen before its to late ..
Only a VET can administer injectables trainers cannot and muscle men cannot ...
We must stop hiding the facts and what these big kennels inject into Greyhounds still today has me and others shaking our heads in disbelief that this is still happening in 2020 ....
The PRO kennels must stop using muscle repair .....and they need to stop taking short cuts with peptides...
I am only warning you all that this today will be our biggest battle if we are to have a future ..
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Jun 2020 23:25
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Kevin,
We are getting away from Gillians original question about the need and justification for a certain number of tracks. Basically, that is a business subject but obviously it has overtones which bring in the professional v hobbyist comparison and also aspects of breeding quality.
First, all (rule) changes I have observed often in Victoria have tightened things up so as to avoid breeding with poor dogs (however poor is defined) and/or aging dams or dams used too often. Not much to complain about there.
The quantity of breeding taking place is another question altogether (but a good one to pursue elsewhere utilising decent research).
Second, the current negatives in USA are due to a failure of the business case, not so much the factory racing principle. That embraces mainly finances, politics and PR, not the actual racing itself.
Third, in Oz we have a mix of big, medium and tiny training establishments and long may it remain so. That is, we can all support the hobbyist providing he does it professionally, if you get my drift.
Fourth, you have made a swag of accusations about professionals in particular but offered no evidence and no proof. You may be right but we dont know. In the case of Tooradin (and in NSW and Qld) all sorts of trainers were involved, from big to small, so we did know a lot although badly-based evidence reduced the impact legally.
What are we left with? Apparently, we have good breeding but not enough of it. Forgetting Covid-19 for the moment, we have bitten off more than we can chew. We cant fill the boxes yet we are still scheduling more races, empowering more clubs and concentrating on using up the runts of the litter in an attempt to balance the ledger.
In fact, GRV has just announced that, as the total number of nominations for Provincial Full Stakes meetings has continued to decline in recent months and 'hybrid' meetings allow for greyhounds of lesser ability to compete against greyhounds of a similar level for full stakes prize money.
GRV also doubled the racing frequency at Healesville. GRNSW has also confirmed a decline in income yet, paradoxically, has just promoted Taree to full TAB status (as it did for previously for Wagga, Dubbo and Goulbourn). Likewise, GRSA launched the new Murray Bridge track but cut back many Angle Park races to six runners. All states are programming more short course events, in sharp contrast to pre-2015 levels.
We have had the choice of pushing for excellence versus rewarding also rans. We chose the latter. Hence Gillians question is right on the money. A middle option of splitting up meetings into high quality and low quality with commensurate prize differences did not get a run. So where will it end? And what will be the medium and long term impact of Covid-19? What will bring back our adoring public?
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 23 Jun 2020 05:59
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Bruce Teague wrote:
Kevin,
We are getting away from Gillians original question about the need and justification for a certain number of tracks. Basically, that is a business subject but obviously it has overtones which bring in the professional v hobbyist comparison and also aspects of breeding quality.
First, all (rule) changes I have observed often in Victoria have tightened things up so as to avoid breeding with poor dogs (however poor is defined) and/or aging dams or dams used too often. Not much to complain about there.
The quantity of breeding taking place is another question altogether (but a good one to pursue elsewhere utilising decent research).
Second, the current negatives in USA are due to a failure of the business case, not so much the factory racing principle. That embraces mainly finances, politics and PR, not the actual racing itself.
Third, in Oz we have a mix of big, medium and tiny training establishments and long may it remain so. That is, we can all support the hobbyist providing he does it professionally, if you get my drift.
Fourth, you have made a swag of accusations about professionals in particular but offered no evidence and no proof. You may be right but we dont know. In the case of Tooradin (and in NSW and Qld) all sorts of trainers were involved, from big to small, so we did know a lot although badly-based evidence reduced the impact legally.
What are we left with? Apparently, we have good breeding but not enough of it. Forgetting Covid-19 for the moment, we have bitten off more than we can chew. We cant fill the boxes yet we are still scheduling more races, empowering more clubs and concentrating on using up the runts of the litter in an attempt to balance the ledger.
In fact, GRV has just announced that, as the total number of nominations for Provincial Full Stakes meetings has continued to decline in recent months and 'hybrid' meetings allow for greyhounds of lesser ability to compete against greyhounds of a similar level for full stakes prize money.
GRV also doubled the racing frequency at Healesville. GRNSW has also confirmed a decline in income yet, paradoxically, has just promoted Taree to full TAB status (as it did for previously for Wagga, Dubbo and Goulbourn). Likewise, GRSA launched the new Murray Bridge track but cut back many Angle Park races to six runners. All states are programming more short course events, in sharp contrast to pre-2015 levels.
We have had the choice of pushing for excellence versus rewarding also rans. We chose the latter. Hence Gillians question is right on the money. A middle option of splitting up meetings into high quality and low quality with commensurate prize differences did not get a run. So where will it end? And what will be the medium and long term impact of Covid-19? What will bring back our adoring public?
Simple answer Reward the trainer for racing over 500 plus ...
Reward breeders for producing 500 plus stock and above ...
We must use all of our facilities at every track for outside K9 groups and we must use the Councils resources to help promote Greyhound racing at at every level in every Shire we have racetracks in .
Each track should encourage the younger generation by giving them jobs within the industry run a kids Club at each track to help foster new younger members ...
I see a huge market for K9 based clubs to use our facilities i also see a huge need to have full time Track vets based on course in Clinics also serving the adoption foster groups along with other K9 groups ..
I think we can have a huge future but we have to be willing to share with all K9 clubs and groups .
Bruce I have bagged the PRO'S they deserve it and as shown they all go into hiding when the shit hits the fan just like our biggest breeder did when he withdrew sponsorship ...
You seem to love stats Bruce so why dont you look up the amount of Greyhounds that have come and gone from the top 10 Pro kennels in the last 5 years ..
Also Bruce there is no way that the PRO'S dogs run sound every start most run like cripples and they either break down or they get moved quick smart ..
You cannot train 50 Greyhounds if you laser or Ultrasound or massage each dog ....Its not possible to have all of them dogs sound. The time needed by each dog a day on average does not ADD UP ..
Take away injectables from the PRO'S then you will see a totally different result .....They will all struggle to win a race .....
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 23 Jun 2020 06:19
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daryl barrett wrote:
One of the first things i learnt at "Grass roots " level Kevin,was from a wonderful & very knowledgeable trainer,Ted Curran,was patience,& part of that patience with certain injuries was the very,very best vets in the world.His name,some may ask... Dr Time. Sorry that this is slightly off topic everyone.
Kevin Wright wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
G'day Kevin, Just to let you know,i whole heartedly agree with yours & others who have the same views & opinions on this.The " grass roots " has & will always be the crutch that props up the greyhound industry as whole.
Kevin Wright wrote:
Larry Valenti wrote:
Your dead right Kevin. When I started in WA at the beginning we had packed nights at quali and selection trials . Racing started at a licensed trial track with trophies for stake money partly laid on by a local retailer whom went on to become a noted breeder . Long story short , but you now will find the foundation of now great greyhound participants of WA greyhounds that have brought us to the likes of West on Augie a now modern time national sire . Grassroots must be protected and nurtured , because it is actually the backbone of our industry.
Larry like you i believe at all costs we must protect our Sport and if that means throwing some PRO'S under the bus then so be it .
If it means we race for ribbons so be it as long as i can still breed and race my own stock im a happy camper ..
The facts are without the hobby back yard breeder our sport will be gone within 5 years.
If no one wants to agree with me then look at the way the USA handled there affairs over the years and if the USA still allowed little OTB to race at all tracks then they would of had the numbers to fight any battle ..
G/Day Daryl There are a lot of us who think alike many are to afraid to speak out ..
Many think we need the PRO'S i don't..
There is nothing good about running a Greyhound until they break down as shown by many of the Pro's over the years... Most Pro kennels go through hundreds of Greyhounds every year ..
With all ending up in GAPs and adoption groups all over Australia .
There has to be some limits placed on one man breeding hundreds of Greyhounds a year this does nothing for us and all it does is give the Antis something to use against us when the time suits them...
How many Greyhounds can one kennel train before short cuts are taken if you have over 100 dogs then i can bet my left knacker that most are running around each week sore and injured ...The maths dont stuck up
This is fuel for the Anti's so maybe by me now posting this some may start to listen before its to late ..
Only a VET can administer injectables trainers cannot and muscle men cannot ...
We must stop hiding the facts and what these big kennels inject into Greyhounds still today has me and others shaking our heads in disbelief that this is still happening in 2020 ....
The PRO kennels must stop using muscle repair .....and they need to stop taking short cuts with peptides...
I am only warning you all that this today will be our biggest battle if we are to have a future ..
Daryl Its ok to go off topic
I do it often Bruce has taken my title for the past 3 years im hoping i will win it this year i have 6 months to go..
Cheers
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 23 Jun 2020 06:45
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Ha ha ha,good on you Kev,give brucie a run for his money.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 23 Jun 2020 06:54
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daryl barrett wrote:
Ha ha ha,good on you Kev,give brucie a run for his money.
What odds would i be ...i have to be a good bet at even money
Anyone wanting to run please put forward your name ...
I give MG 10 to 1 ..He normally starts later in the year ..
I give JQ 7 to 1 ..He has potential of upsetting the Fav ...
Bruce has a huge lead but he may fall close to the line he is a veteran i rate him a $1.10 Fav at this stage of the year
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 23 Jun 2020 20:19
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MG...10s 'ay,..geez he is good value ,way overs imo,i'll have a couple of $$$ e/w Kev,lol.
But my market would look loke this at present & current form;
Outspoken Bruce 1-2
Kevin Is Right 2-1
Emm Gee 5-1
Jaycue 10-1
Stainesy's Pride 10-1
Steevmarti 16-1
Vandaa 33-1
Diamond Dazzla 50-1 ( firmed from 66's due this post )
Reserves to be picked at Committees Discretion based upon total bias points accrued.
Brother Tony & Simmering Saunders would be my choices based on past performances & potential,lol.
Kevin Wright wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
Ha ha ha,good on you Kev,give brucie a run for his money.
What odds would i be ...i have to be a good bet at even money
Anyone wanting to run please put forward your name ...
I give MG 10 to 1 ..He normally starts later in the year ..
I give JQ 7 to 1 ..He has potential of upsetting the Fav ...
Bruce has a huge lead but he may fall close to the line he is a veteran i rate him a $1.10 Fav at this stage of the year
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 24 Jun 2020 22:55
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Could someone tell me what the injury rebate scheme in NSW is, or put up a link to it, please. Can't seem to find it.
Thank you.
Sorry for off topic.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 25 Jun 2020 03:46
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No idea mate,but you just firmed into 9-2 !! Lol.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 25 Jun 2020 04:00
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Make that 4-1. Lol.
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 25 Jun 2020 05:03
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daryl barrett wrote:
MG...10s 'ay,..geez he is good value ,way overs imo,i'll have a couple of $$$ e/w Kev,lol.
But my market would look loke this at present & current form;
Outspoken Bruce 1-2
Kevin Is Right 2-1
Emm Gee 5-1
Jaycue 10-1
Stainesy's Pride 10-1
Steevmarti 16-1
Vandaa 33-1
Diamond Dazzla 50-1 ( firmed from 66's due this post )
Reserves to be picked at Committees Discretion based upon total bias points accrued.
Brother Tony & Simmering Saunders would be my choices based on past performances & potential,lol.
Kevin Wright wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
Ha ha ha,good on you Kev,give brucie a run for his money.
What odds would i be ...i have to be a good bet at even money
Anyone wanting to run please put forward your name ...
I give MG 10 to 1 ..He normally starts later in the year ..
I give JQ 7 to 1 ..He has potential of upsetting the Fav ...
Bruce has a huge lead but he may fall close to the line he is a veteran i rate him a $1.10 Fav at this stage of the year
Hang on, what's this all about? I missed something here.....
Is it for the most annoying person on data? I'll have 5 bucks on a rank outsider....Mal Smart. Not personal, I like Mal, but he is the all time record holder for 'disagrees' when we had the agree/disagree button. I think me and Brucey were neck and neck on 18 each at one stage but Mal came along and got into the 30s....blew us all away.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 25 Jun 2020 05:43
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Could someone tell me what the injury rebate scheme in NSW is, or put up a link to it, please. Can't seem to find it.
Thank you.
Sorry for off topic.
You can go off topic if you want to MG .
Interesting to note the Chinese Fish Price has doubled in 2020 ...
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 25 Jun 2020 06:25
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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
MG...10s 'ay,..geez he is good value ,way overs imo,i'll have a couple of $$$ e/w Kev,lol.
But my market would look loke this at present & current form;
Outspoken Bruce 1-2
Kevin Is Right 2-1
Emm Gee 5-1
Jaycue 10-1
Stainesy's Pride 10-1
Steevmarti 16-1
Vandaa 33-1
Diamond Dazzla 50-1 ( firmed from 66's due this post )
Reserves to be picked at Committees Discretion based upon total bias points accrued.
Brother Tony & Simmering Saunders would be my choices based on past performances & potential,lol.
Kevin Wright wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
Ha ha ha,good on you Kev,give brucie a run for his money.
What odds would i be ...i have to be a good bet at even money
Anyone wanting to run please put forward your name ...
I give MG 10 to 1 ..He normally starts later in the year ..
I give JQ 7 to 1 ..He has potential of upsetting the Fav ...
Bruce has a huge lead but he may fall close to the line he is a veteran i rate him a $1.10 Fav at this stage of the year
Hang on, what's this all about? I missed something here.....
Is it for the most annoying person on data? I'll have 5 bucks on a rank outsider....Mal Smart. Not personal, I like Mal, but he is the all time record holder for 'disagrees' when we had the agree/disagree button. I think me and Brucey were neck and neck on 18 each at one stage but Mal came along and got into the 30s....blew us all away.
*Cough* * Cough* Rrrrrrubbishhhh!
Tornado was crossing the finish line before you got around the bend. Then it was you, 20 lengths in front of my mate, Mal.
Easiest quinella ever!!!
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 25 Jun 2020 08:18
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
MG...10s 'ay,..geez he is good value ,way overs imo,i'll have a couple of $$$ e/w Kev,lol.
But my market would look loke this at present & current form;
Outspoken Bruce 1-2
Kevin Is Right 2-1
Emm Gee 5-1
Jaycue 10-1
Stainesy's Pride 10-1
Steevmarti 16-1
Vandaa 33-1
Diamond Dazzla 50-1 ( firmed from 66's due this post )
Reserves to be picked at Committees Discretion based upon total bias points accrued.
Brother Tony & Simmering Saunders would be my choices based on past performances & potential,lol.
Kevin Wright wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
Ha ha ha,good on you Kev,give brucie a run for his money.
What odds would i be ...i have to be a good bet at even money
Anyone wanting to run please put forward your name ...
I give MG 10 to 1 ..He normally starts later in the year ..
I give JQ 7 to 1 ..He has potential of upsetting the Fav ...
Bruce has a huge lead but he may fall close to the line he is a veteran i rate him a $1.10 Fav at this stage of the year
Hang on, what's this all about? I missed something here.....
Is it for the most annoying person on data? I'll have 5 bucks on a rank outsider....Mal Smart. Not personal, I like Mal, but he is the all time record holder for 'disagrees' when we had the agree/disagree button. I think me and Brucey were neck and neck on 18 each at one stage but Mal came along and got into the 30s....blew us all away.
*Cough* * Cough* Rrrrrrubbishhhh!
Tornado was crossing the finish line before you got around the bend. Then it was you, 20 lengths in front of my mate, Mal.
Easiest quinella ever!!!
Actually Micky G, this was the easiest quinella ever....
Hey, did I breed, rear, own and train those 2 bitches? Wow, that's impressive JQ.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 25 Jun 2020 08:47
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Kevin Is Right into 6-4
Some late money for Jayque into 7's
Emmgee into 4-1 ( at the reqest of the owner/trainer
And due to support for a few runner's,Outspoken Bruce is easing out to the juicy juicy odds of....even money !! (who would have thought ), ha ha ha ha.
Ps Smarty Mal was omitted from the field due to a good behaviour record & not wearing his obvious gear change,his Blinkers lol.
Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
Michael Geraghty wrote:
Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
MG...10s 'ay,..geez he is good value ,way overs imo,i'll have a couple of $$$ e/w Kev,lol.
But my market would look loke this at present & current form;
Outspoken Bruce 1-2
Kevin Is Right 2-1
Emm Gee 5-1
Jaycue 10-1
Stainesy's Pride 10-1
Steevmarti 16-1
Vandaa 33-1
Diamond Dazzla 50-1 ( firmed from 66's due this post )
Reserves to be picked at Committees Discretion based upon total bias points accrued.
Brother Tony & Simmering Saunders would be my choices based on past performances & potential,lol.
Kevin Wright wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
Ha ha ha,good on you Kev,give brucie a run for his money.
What odds would i be ...i have to be a good bet at even money
Anyone wanting to run please put forward your name ...
I give MG 10 to 1 ..He normally starts later in the year ..
I give JQ 7 to 1 ..He has potential of upsetting the Fav ...
Bruce has a huge lead but he may fall close to the line he is a veteran i rate him a $1.10 Fav at this stage of the year
Hang on, what's this all about? I missed something here.....
Is it for the most annoying person on data? I'll have 5 bucks on a rank outsider....Mal Smart. Not personal, I like Mal, but he is the all time record holder for 'disagrees' when we had the agree/disagree button. I think me and Brucey were neck and neck on 18 each at one stage but Mal came along and got into the 30s....blew us all away.
*Cough* * Cough* Rrrrrrubbishhhh!
Tornado was crossing the finish line before you got around the bend. Then it was you, 20 lengths in front of my mate, Mal.
Easiest quinella ever!!!
Actually Micky G, this was the easiest quinella ever....
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