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Michael Worth
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13 Aug 2020 03:40


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Does anybody have any ideas on any products for calming excitable keen hounds prior to racing. There are many on the market but not sure which ones or their active ingredient works best. Most of them seem to be for anxiety , separation , fireworks etc. All comments will be appreciated. Obviously they would be not swab. Cheers


Carole Brown
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13 Aug 2020 04:10


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Have you tried Good as Gold powder, Michael ?


Kenneth Markham
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13 Aug 2020 04:14


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Natural ginger tablets work very well


Steve Harvey
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13 Aug 2020 04:28


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Hi Michael. Just a comment here that may help you. The amino acid L-TRYPTOPHEN is proven to work on greyhounds that may be overly excitable types. I hope this may assist. All the best m8.


Carole Brown
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13 Aug 2020 04:42


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That is in Good as Gold powder, as well as Vit E and B1. Works well.


Michael Worth
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Thanks Carole, Kenneth and Steve. I have noticed that L - Tryptophan was an active ingredient in many of the calming products but wasnít sure how much to give and when. Carole I will see if I can get the good as gold powder before the weekend. I did look at it once before but thought it was only for horses. How much and how long before kennelling do you administer or is it a daily supplement. Itís not for me but an old friend whoís maiden bitch is running a race in the kennels. Pretty sure he hasnít tried it. I will also mention the ginger Kenneth as that will be easy to get in a hurry in his area compared to the other products. How much do you give and how often. Are they in tablet form mate. Once again thanks for your I put and taking the time to help. Stay safe. Cheers


Carole Brown
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13 Aug 2020 09:31


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Michael, we haven't used it for quite a while, but the product is available in sachets for dogs. The instructions are on the packet and it is not expensive. You can buy it online, so it is well worth giving it a try Good luck.


Mitchell Tubinas
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13 Aug 2020 10:25


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L Arginine works well and add B6 to that. I sent a more specific PM to you Michael.


Michael Worth
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13 Aug 2020 10:35


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Cheers, thanks Mitchell, received message mate thanks heaps


Mitchell Tubinas
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13 Aug 2020 10:48


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No worries mate.


Kenneth Markham
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14 Aug 2020 21:25


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michael worth wrote:

Thanks Carole, Kenneth and Steve. I have noticed that L - Tryptophan was an active ingredient in many of the calming products but wasnít sure how much to give and when. Carole I will see if I can get the good as gold powder before the weekend. I did look at it once before but thought it was only for horses. How much and how long before kennelling do you administer or is it a daily supplement. Itís not for me but an old friend whoís maiden bitch is running a race in the kennels. Pretty sure he hasnít tried it. I will also mention the ginger Kenneth as that will be easy to get in a hurry in his area compared to the other products. How much do you give and how often. Are they in tablet form mate. Once again thanks for your I put and taking the time to help. Stay safe. Cheers

Hey Michael 1 or 2 an hour before you go to the track



Ray Webster
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14 Aug 2020 23:17


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The compression suits are used by a lot of the professional trainers. Must be effective for them to use them.


Matthew Clark
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15 Aug 2020 07:20


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Compression suits work a treat!



Graham Moscow
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15 Aug 2020 09:03


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Compression suits well proven on excitable dogs.



Michael Worth
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15 Aug 2020 12:40


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Thanks guys Iíll check them out. Cheers


Mitchell Tubinas
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15 Aug 2020 13:41


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Michael, If you are going to go the way of L Tryptophan i suggest you use 5htp or 5 hydroxytryptophan. It works better as the system processes it better. But only a small dosage. I would give it to the dog while at home in the kennels first to see how the dog goes. You can buy that from the link i sent you also.


Mitchell Tubinas
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15 Aug 2020 13:51


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This is a better explanation EXTERNAL LINK


Michael Worth
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16 Aug 2020 04:11


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Thanks again Mitchell. Cheers



Jason Caley
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16 Aug 2020 23:00


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Mitchell Tubinas wrote:

Michael, If you are going to go the way of L Tryptophan i suggest you use 5htp or 5 hydroxytryptophan. It works better as the system processes it better. But only a small dosage. I would give it to the dog while at home in the kennels first to see how the dog goes. You can buy that from the link i sent you also.

Mitchell is on the money. It's the precursor to produce L-Tryptophan and more bio available.

Dogs that respond to it respond well, sometimes a little too well (as in blow their starts). Some dogs don't respond to tryptophan at all whether it's 5HTP or Gold as Gold paste.

For dogs that dont respond and calm with 5HTP there are only two options I know of that work - one is a compression suit as mentioned above in this thread and the other is a pheromone spray called Adaptil. You basically spray it all over their kennel mat and see if they like it at home. If so go with the pheromone spray. Its basically a synthetic of what lactating mothers produce to calm their puppies.

* A word of caution on 5HTP/L-Trytophan - it should never ever be given if a dog is on Reconcile (Prozac) or any other SSRI medication. There are warnings on most products about this but combining anything that messes with serotonin levels together is a very bad idea.



Michael Worth
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17 Aug 2020 21:13


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Thanks guys, great info, Iíve got some reading to do. Really appreciate you sharing this info. I know some dogs settle once in the routine of racing and she may do the same. Iíve seen the Adaptil Jason and must admit I was sceptical so itís good to know it does work for some. Iíll get him to try a combination of the above mentioned ideas and see which works best for her. She actually won her Maiden Heat on the weekend in good time and is in the final this weekend. I think weíll wait to try anything orally until after the weekend. He did give her a couple of ginger tablets last weekend but not sure it had much effect on excitability? but she did win? Thanks heaps guys. Cheers

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