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Another inquiry about to quick off because some low life participant decided its ok to treat a pup like a punching bag. Youre an absolute disgrace to our industry and have provided more ammunition to those who want to close us down. I hope they throw criminal charges at you.
Danny Phillips Australia (Verified User) Posts 126 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Jul 2023 05:52
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Big names involved let's see what happens
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 26 Jul 2023 06:05
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Keep it to an ALL breeds discussion. The same thing and worse goes on, on a much larger scale in PET ownership. Wheres the uproar by the general public? Just tomorrows fish n chip paper.
The people in charge of the sport need to come out and say there are animal welfare laws in place to deal with any mistreatment &/or criminal element. Thats right across the board in society. Whether it be any number of PET ownership atrocities or any greyhound racing participant caught doing the wrong thing. The judicial system is in place to deal with offenders, be it PET or racing greyhound.
Every single person who loves their greyhounds should be appalled at this, not trying to deflect away the seriousness of it.
Anyone who does this to a greyhound pup is an absolute grub. Imagine this is your pup and you are paying to get him reared, believing he's being looked after. Filthy scum! Lock the prick up.
There was another discussion about rearing on here. Well these pups have no chance of chasing.
Its a racing greyhound discussion thats run under an organisation that trainers / breeders decide and agreed to when obtaining a license to have the privilege of being involved in the sport
A pet dog has nothing to do with anyone outside its home unless it impacts something outside these boundaries , where there are laws and services to control this .
Its like a pro footballer whos had 20 beers saying how come I get picked on for touching a chics arse and John nobody gets away with it !
You are in a privileged position in the lime light and are under higher scrutiny at all times
What happens to others in other lesser positions not in the spot light is irrelevant to what sporting industries are run by !
If u havent figured that out or disagree with it , leave the sport and the higher expected responsibility and stop passing the buck
Couldnt even watch it , a disgrace and they should be locked up !
Dead fkn set,don't care who it was in the footage I saw on Channel 9,how Big of a Trainer it might be,you are a dead set Moron,and a blight on the Greyhound Industry..After all the crap we have been through in recent years,with the Industry lucky to survive,now we get this absolute Idiot setting us back 10 yrs. Gees I would of Absolutely Loved to be there,grab the poor dog,and punch the FK out of you low prick,see how you like it,see how that makes you react,fair dinkum!! The Absolute worst part of the Report I saw,was as per normal,they had a young female Reporter,who in the famous words of my late Step Father,used to say,"Wouldn't know which end of a Greyhound sh"ts from". Just infuriated me when she said,with her pompous voice,"It's a Dominance training technique,were Greyhound Trainers kick and punch the Dog,to make it chase Harder"!!! Like for fks sake were do they find these "Experts" from??? Problem is thousands and thousands watch this,and believe it. Anyone training a dog has to realise,the instant you walk out of that kennel of yours,your being watched,even though you might not be,that's how you have to think these days! As far as the person responsible on the footage,that's the last time you'll ever train a Greyhound,all down the drain,all because of your own frustration and stupidity..Now the Whole Industry under the Spotlight AGAIN,with People now thinking we beat the shit out of our Dogs to make them Chase!!! How awesome is that,again to the Person responsible,Hope you suffer Big Time,don't care one bit, because now the Whole Industry has to suffer AGAIN,like always,one or a handful do the wrong thing,and the Whole Industry Suffers,Thousands around Australia.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 26 Jul 2023 10:44
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When I first saw this post I thought it was about another issue I've heard involving the same people and a supposed hair sample concern. I seriously hope it isn't true. Fair dinkum elements of SA greyhounds are self-destructing and dragging us all down with them.
Craig Cooper Australia (Verified User) Posts 125 Dogs 0 / Races 1 26 Jul 2023 10:47
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i am an owner located in adelaide and to say im pissed is an understatment
A massive anti racing groundswell of people have sent this footage worldwide ...just go on 7 9 and 10 adelaide news facebook pages to see the 100s of comments
you all are under scrutiny, every bloody single of one you
SA labor won in a landslide on the back of multiple young social media savvy women MPs who are more socialist green than some of the greens...this industry can be shutdown in a heartbeat without any opposition whatsover
dont sit back and let this happend, we all need to get on the front foot and fight back ....if your in NSW VIC WA or QLD you need to help, being silent isnt good enough anymore
i am so F-ing sick of defending this industry
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 26 Jul 2023 11:48
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Yaakov Rishon wrote:
Darren Leeson wrote:
Keep it to an ALL breeds discussion.
Ridiculous argument.
Every single person who loves their greyhounds should be appalled at this, not trying to deflect away the seriousness of it.
Anyone who does this to a greyhound pup is an absolute grub. Imagine this is your pup and you are paying to get him reared, believing he's being looked after. Filthy scum! Lock the prick up.
There was another discussion about rearing on here. Well these pups have no chance of chasing.
You miss the entire point. Antis are trying to ban the industry based off apparent animal cruelty. Leave your emotion out of the real fight. As antis are a bunch of hypocrites who try and isolate greyhound racing away from other domestic canine breeds and the atrocities that go on in the PET world. We need to keep it to an ALL breeds discussion, to put it all into proper perspective. There are grubs everywhere in life, not just greyhound racing and no-ones law abiding liberties are being threatened except greyhound racing.
Of course were all appalled, were all animal lovers, despite how were portrayed by crazed antis. But, the reality of it is, there are animal welfare laws in place to deal with any mistreatment &/or criminal element. Thats right across the board in society. Whether it be any number of PET ownership atrocities or any greyhound racing participant caught doing the wrong thing. The judicial system is in place to deal with offenders, be it PET or racing greyhound. The law doesnt differentiate!
Should only be jail time for these grubs, NO IF's NO BUTS, NO MAYBE'S
If the industry wants its credibility, IT should be the one breaking the News, not the socialist ABC and Greens sympathizers.
IT should be bringing these people to account and IT should be putting them in JAIL
Also IT should be challenging the journalistic integrity displayed.
Apparently it was relayed to the world, that beating a dog makes it go faster.
That fool should be given a lesson about that by our powers that be.
I hope Greyhounds Australasia, Greyhounds Club Australia and the rest of the State Associations get together and pull their fingers out of their arses and start defending this industry, otherwise, they will be out of a job
OR DO THEY REALLY CARE??
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 26 Jul 2023 21:05
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Nathan Bendeich wrote:
Agree Yaakov
Its a racing greyhound discussion thats run under an organisation that trainers / breeders decide and agreed to when obtaining a license to have the privilege of being involved in the sport
A pet dog has nothing to do with anyone outside its home unless it impacts something outside these boundaries , where there are laws and services to control this .
Its like a pro footballer whos had 20 beers saying how come I get picked on for touching a chics arse and John nobody gets away with it !
You are in a privileged position in the lime light and are under higher scrutiny at all times
What happens to others in other lesser positions not in the spot light is irrelevant to what sporting industries are run by !
If u havent figured that out or disagree with it , leave the sport and the higher expected responsibility and stop passing the buck
Couldnt even watch it , a disgrace and they should be locked up !
Sorry Darren, I think you are missing the entire point.
Antis will always be around and they don't fight fair. But that is not our battle. Our battle is against the rats within the ship. Our battle is against the cancer within the body. All the antis have to do is supply the cameras, we are the ones giving them all the ammunition. Cut out the cancer, drown the rats, no more ammo for those who hate us. And we, as one, need to outright condemn this. Not try to shift the focus elsewhere. EXTERNAL LINK As for getting on the front foot and fighting back. We need more of this.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 26 Jul 2023 21:39
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Its a societal problem. Thats where you and others just dont get it. How are you going to stop further atrocities? Just as society cant stop the next pet dog thats going to be tortured. WHY laws are in place and the law doesnt differentiate between PET or racing greyhound. Society accepts that and dont call for the banning of PET ownership.
Yes, we should be appalled and outraged at participants caught doing the wrong thing, but then we need to remove the emotion and defend our industry. Which is just another section of society!
I congratulate SA for getting on the front foot, but they should also have mentioned its a societal issue on the whole and like the rest of society, they and the greater greyhound community have a zero tolerance policy on any form of animal cruelty. We are all animal lovers.
Antis are our enemy, but SOCIETY are our judge and jury. To isolate greyhound racing away from an ALL breeds discussion plays right into the antis hands to affect the minds of greater society.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Jul 2023 21:45
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The law doesnt differentiate Darren, but the media coverage does. Didnt see any domestic pets in the coverage or even hear them mentioned. Just some FW kicking the shit out of a greyhound because he doesnt know how to train them. If that was my dog Id be on the plane with Shane to find the grubs. I didnt think with what weve been through that we would still have dumb arses like them involved with any dog of any breed. Cheers
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 26 Jul 2023 22:17
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Yesterday no Michael, but go google pet dog being bashed and the list of other breeds are endless. The news reports on all animal atrocities. Just, society doesnt judge their own as a whole. However, theyre being persuaded to isolate greyhound racing as something different to their own world atrocities and its not!
Youre all far too emotive and lost sight of the ball. Absolutely, were all furious, but again I ask how are you going to stop the next atrocity? Any better than society can stop it in the PET world. Why we have laws in place and they dont differentiate and why the RSPCA was created for the PET world, not for the greyhound racing industry. Yet, all we ever hear is ban greyhound racing. Society pay attention to it.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Jul 2023 22:25
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I understand what youre saying Darren and YES i am angry and pissed off how those dogs were treated. But what ever happens in the pet world is not going to stop people owning pets. What happens in the greyhound industry WILL shut it down. Cheers
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 26 Jul 2023 23:43
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Because you all included, assist in isolating greyhounds away from the general dog breed and a human owning a canine. Youre all assisting the antis in the eradicating the sport of greyhound racing. So when a PET owner stabs their dog and runs it over with their car. Everyone ins society is appalled and want the bloke hanged, drawn and quartered. Where they want an entire greyhound industry shutdown for the exact same thing.
Because you all included, assist in isolating greyhounds away from the general dog breed and a human owning a canine. Youre all assisting the antis in the eradicating the sport of greyhound racing. So when a PET owner stabs their dog and runs it over with their car. Everyone ins society is appalled and want the bloke hanged, drawn and quartered. Where they want an entire greyhound industry shutdown for the exact same thing.
As I said before Darren, your argument is ridiculous and quite frankly it's getting more so. You are like Russia saying 'well America invaded Iraq so we should be allowed to invade Ukraine' Pet ownership is not the issue here and pet ownership has nothing in common with a sport that offers substantial prizemoney, funded largely by the betting dollar, and broadcast all over the world. Anti's will always hate us and they will never stop until we are finished. And we all know that they use illegal video footage to push their case. Well guess what? Give them nothing to film and we win the war. They have no case against us. But as long as we have braindead, greedy, cruel bastards within our own ranks, who continually supply ammunition to our enemies, we are doomed. Condemn them openly, come down hard on them, ban them for life. Whingeing about what others are doing is totally pointless and leads to nowhere.
John Charles Caulfield Australia (Verified User) Posts 396 Dogs 2 / Races 0 27 Jul 2023 04:09
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grsa should be right over this and sought it out fast let the public see we dont tolerate this or any other bad behaviuor,they cant let it drag on like the murry case,i know the trainer very well and classed him a friendbut what has happened has made me really change my thoughts about him,even if it was a worker he should have seen a change in the dog as it would be scared of people,he has to name him and also the scumbag women who was there or he has to take the blame as people will believe it was him.
Its a racing greyhound discussion thats run under an organisation that trainers / breeders decide and agreed to when obtaining a license to have the privilege of being involved in the sport
A pet dog has nothing to do with anyone outside its home unless it impacts something outside these boundaries , where there are laws and services to control this .
Its like a pro footballer whos had 20 beers saying how come I get picked on for touching a chics arse and John nobody gets away with it !
You are in a privileged position in the lime light and are under higher scrutiny at all times
What happens to others in other lesser positions not in the spot light is irrelevant to what sporting industries are run by !
If u havent figured that out or disagree with it , leave the sport and the higher expected responsibility and stop passing the buck
Couldnt even watch it , a disgrace and they should be locked up !
The law doesnt differentiate!
Does gwic have the authority to go to any pet owners home and take their pet under their rules that apply to greyhounds ?
Do you have questions about greyhound racing?
