As you wish...go hard.

"Market Share with no subsidising the other codes must be our priority."

One of many, but totally agree.
We are all competing for the punter's dollar.
Clearly, the three codes should be separate businesses and no business should be expected to subsidize its competitor.
Autonomy is the only answer to gain fair market share, imo.

I'll have a chat with the PTB and let you know how I get on...

Stand Alone Facility
Fair Market Share
Reintroduction of FOL

Here it is.

Send PM Today at 08:17 AM

You read it here first. The chief adviser to both legless billy byrne the quasi racing minister and the current premier mrs pal etc is none other than that silver haired former parking attendant who runs the red hots. despite the abject failure of the red hots to be viable, (its all not true according to the silver fox) he is the one dictating the future of racing queensland. looks like whatever suits the red hots will have to suit everyone else. As i said previously anyone who owns, races or supports racing in this state might as well start looking for a new postcode, preferably one that doesnt start with a 4.

Sean, is it too late to add "Compensation for the INNOCENT parties adversely affected by the UNLAWFUL actions of RQ & their Agents" to the Xmas Wish List ... or do you think I should pen my own letter to the Jolly Red man Mr Claus? ;-)

Instead of everyone "tilting at windmills" and flailing around in the dark cursing at all the decisions being made against Greyhound Racing, surely SURELY !!!! it cannot take this long to see the true picture. KNOW THINE ENEMY !!!!!!
Surely people have seen the transition from ANIMAL rights groups with dislike of ALL forms of Racing......To GREY 2 K with a specific agenda ie: The total eradication of our SUCCESSFUL Industry
This is an influential person or persons with a PASSIONATE HATRED of Greyhound racing.
When looking for just such a person or persons in Qld. you could do a lot worse than ask a person with extensive knowledge and expertise to assist with identifying any such likely person.

Kevin Seymour has more than enough Knowledge of all aspects of Racing in general. He seems to be more than willing to assist in all areas of racing and could possibly be approached to help identify the likely culprit.

In N.S,W.,there are probably many possibilities of people with a PASSIONATE HATRED of Greyhound racing , however, if you ask the most knowledgeable and influential man [The Go To Man so to speak]...in N.S.W. racing Peter V'landys I feel sure that if there was such a person, He would be able and willing to assist in identifying him.

Until you correctly identify "PRECISELY" your enemies.......and just as importantly, the motivation behind each one...... you will be wasting your time.

Cheers Rob H.

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We need more Phil Pursers to let the powers that be know that 'racing' is not the exclusive domain of the thoroughbreds.

I believe it says in Brenton's email received today, he has a meeting with RQ set down for Thursday and with Greyhounds Australasia later in the week.
At least there is some action, unlike the QGA, who I might mention have not received one email from since it's inception and the leader is nowhere to be seen.
Since that first meeting at Albion Park months ago don't think he's been anywhere in sight.....pretty poor show!

Are "they" trying to do something? Yes, accepted that that's the case.

However unless I am mistaken, NOTHING "tangible" has yet been ACHIEVED.

Pretty words on a page shouldn't be mistaken for "results". And if you/others agree with everything stated 100% - especially given the words chosen for / used in this document (and I would suggest you and all others read it again, very carefully), then I am concerned.

For instance -

"we fully agree that any number being euthanized, is unsatisfactory and must be all addressed with unflinching commitment." ???

and

"Many initiatives will be recommended to greyhound racing regulators and to the NSW Special Commission of Inquiry in the near future, including determining and managing sustainable breeding numbers..." ???

So, I take it you are on board with these statements?

I, like many breeders, will NOT support nor be a part of an "organisation" that purports to REPRESENT it's "interest groups" (ie, BREEDERS, Owners and Trainers), YET would go to print and put on the record that they want to "determine and sustain" breeding numbers. If this is the established position of the QGBOTA and / or National Federation, it's little wonder they are struggling to garner support that surpasses a single-digit percentage of overall participants!

That being said - like yourself I take it - I commend Brenton & the organisations for at least "trying" to do "something". BUT don't be nave enough to think that there's not many others, too (both via organisations AND other individuals) who are similarly in there fighting and trying their best to effect positive change, where necessary.

But remember the old saying; "Don't fix what ain't broken" ... my fear is we are fragmenting due to a fundamental disagreement as to exactly what it is that "needs fixing".

I have endeavoured to ask direct questions of Brenton (admittedly on a public Forum); because HE has chosen to utilise this same forum to publicise his and the organisations' agenda. Yet when it suits, they are quite adept at ducking for cover; avoiding the questions; and reverting to the "I don't need to answer that on here" excuse.

I genuinely believe this is one of the reasons why some people remain sceptical of the GBOTA 'agenda'; what's wrong in using this wide, public platform to engage in HEALTHY, reasonable debate?

I have gone on record to say that myself (and I believe, others) are actually WANTING to find a reason/s to join a truly REPRESENTATIVE group (such as I believe the GBOTA "could be"); but "they" seem more intent on using ATTACK any time someone "dares" to ask pertinent questions. Again, I state publically I have NO 'hidden' or 'negative' agenda or feelings; I want to be open in giving Brenton and his colleagues the opportunity to "win us over". But to date, that has proven to be a challenge well and truly beyond him. Why, I don't know ...

Take it or leave it; that's up to you. But I am still dubious as to what, if any, POSITIVE changes the GBOTA's can help bring about. I would love to see my fears allayed ... but who's up to the task?

Undoubtedly the usual suspects will accuse me (falsely) of personal vendettas, whingeing (etc etc), but I am trying to be balanced, fair and objective in my assessments. Those same people will probably again try to get this post removed, but I would ask, "Why?" We already have the Authority's in most states trying to be the "Thought Police"; so I remain hopeful that we will be permitted proper, open, and reasonable public 'dialogue'. Because it's now 2015, in Australia ... not the 1970's or 80's in some Communist regime.

Appeal decision- Russell Druey

Decision date: 6 November 2015

Hearing date: 26 August 2015

Code of racing: Greyhounds

Appeal panel: Brock Miller (Chair), Mr Gary Casey and Mr Daryl Kays

Appearances: Mr Scott Neaves appeared on behalf of the Appellant Mr Russell Druery
Mr J E Murdoch QC appeared on behalf of the Respondent
Racing Queensland

Decision being appealed: Breach of GAR Rule 86(q) and GAR Rule 86(d) Warned off for life.

Appeal result: Appeal against penalty allowed and period of 8 years warningoff substituted in lieu of life penalty.

Findings / Decision:

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Appeal decision - John Pollock

Decision date: 12 November 2015

Hearing date: 26 August 2015

Code of racing: Greyhound

Appeal panel: Mr Brock Miller (Chair) Mr Gary Casey and Mr Daryl Kays

Appearances: Mr John Keep appeared on behalf of the appellant
Mr Jamie Dart appeared on behalf of the respondent

Decision being appealed: That the appellant be warned off for life.

Appeal result: That the appeal against conviction be dismissed but that the penalty be varied to being warned off for 10 years.

Findings / Decision:

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Anthony, sorry shoot me down if you wish but you have to understand that RESULTS do not happen overnight, who else has been granted a meeting with RQ and Greyhounds Australasia, I don't see anyone else coming forward telling us what they are achieving, yes plenty of people get on here and tell us what they think and what they want but who is actually doing something to TRY and change things.
What "TANGIBLE" things would you like to see happen, I can't say I have seen anything "TANGIBLE" coming from anywhere else, we ARE dealing with the bureaucracy here who are playing ostrich with their heads firmly stuck in the sand, it has already been said that NOTHING is going to be decided upon until after January 1st so all that can happen is to submit recommendations[which by the way in the case of the QGBOTA are being sought from members] which I believe the QGBOTA is working hard to do, and whether you are for or against at least there is a collective body batting for the industry, one or two people on their own will achieve very little.
Just my opinion.

Quote: The entire saga serves to point up two things the frequently amateurish nature of the management of the greyhound industry, and the governments poorly advised meddling with the workings of that industry. It reinforces the need to radically alter the structure and governance of racing. Continuing with 1950s habits will never work. Unquote

Read the whole article. Nobody says it better than Bruce. jmo