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Todan Ciprian Romania (Verified User) Posts 15 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 18:01
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Dave Wood wrote:
For me it is Some Picture, but for illness would have completed the elusive Triple Crown of Derbys in same year, proper proper Tool.
100% by your side Dave. Any other dog who would have been so close to get the triple Crown? I realy don't know. So must be the all time greatest...
Anthony Nash United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 139 Dogs 0 / Races 4 30 Dec 2012 18:53
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FUTURE CUTLET: contested five classic finals winning four, beating mick the miller by 5L in the 1931 cesarewitch. odds on and beaten a neck in the'32 derby.
Charles Gardener United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 318 Dogs 6 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 19:09
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Toms the Best speaks for himself the only dog that won english,irish and came 2nd in scottish derbys. won English Derby 98 FIN27JUN1998WimbledonGROUP1480/52528.7544/5 Irish Derby 1997 Final4OCT1997Shelbourne ParkGROUP1503/55030.090 Sussex Cup 97 UK31JUL1997Hove & BrightonGROUP2515/56329.790 Midland Gold Cup 97 UK11JUL1997MonmoreGROUP2480/52528.2162/1 English Derby 97 Cons28JUN1997WimbledonGROUP2480/52528.426
Todan Ciprian wrote:
Dave Wood wrote:
For me it is Some Picture, but for illness would have completed the elusive Triple Crown of Derbys in same year, proper proper Tool.
100% by your side Dave. Any other dog who would have been so close to get the triple Crown? I realy don't know. So must be the all time greatest...
Jeffery Hanson Australia (Verified User) Posts 437 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 20:15
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Mick the Miller would have too be the greatest greyhound in Europeon History, 3 Derbies and 1 at the age of 5. The American Real Huntsmen (27 straight wins), than the Aussie trio of Chief Havoc, Black Top and Brett Lee.
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 20:48
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Hi carole, Bold trease was certainly a top dog but looking him up, every now and then he would put a few lessthan standard runs in. But all in all another that I want in my fantasy kennel lol.
Todan Ciprian Romania (Verified User) Posts 15 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:00
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charles gardener wrote:
Toms the Best speaks for himself the only dog that won english,irish and came 2nd in scottish derbys. won English Derby 98 FIN27JUN1998WimbledonGROUP1480/52528.7544/5 Irish Derby 1997 Final4OCT1997Shelbourne ParkGROUP1503/55030.090 Sussex Cup 97 UK31JUL1997Hove & BrightonGROUP2515/56329.790 Midland Gold Cup 97 UK11JUL1997MonmoreGROUP2480/52528.2162/1 English Derby 97 Cons28JUN1997WimbledonGROUP2480/52528.426
Todan Ciprian wrote:
Dave Wood wrote:
For me it is Some Picture, but for illness would have completed the elusive Triple Crown of Derbys in same year, proper proper Tool.
100% by your side Dave. Any other dog who would have been so close to get the triple Crown? I realy don't know. So must be the all time greatest...
yes Charles, Toms The Best was a brilliant dog but he won the English and the Irish in 2 consecutive years, not in the same year. I was talking about winning the 3 derbys in the Same year. So I think that Some Picture would beat Toms The Best any time....
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:04
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The thing I loved about Brett Lee is that he was Switched on very early, abd kept his form. As well as being the complete package ie racer, breeder. The only thing I will say is Chief Havoc and Zoom Top could win at all distances and in top grade, but Brett Lee wasnt.as veritile. But all in all you are right Reece "Brett Lee was A FREAK"
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:09
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Hi Carole, zoom top Looked like a freak and could win in top conpany at any distance, however, Chief Havoc could do the same BUT according to G-DATA he never won a group race or even contended one?? All the same a brilliant dog. Carole do you know much about his Sire Trion? G-DATA doesnt have much info on him??
Dave Smith (essex) United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 400 Dogs 2 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:17
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mick the miller is the name known by the public years after he stopped racing,that says it all.
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:31
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Hi Charles, Firstly I would like to command you on your writing, you are simply a fantastic writer, so much so that you gave me amazing vision and also gave me goosebumps while reading your fantstic tribute to such a takented dog. The only thing I say is that according to G-DATA Ballyregan Bob hardly ever run against any more than 5 runners and even that was rear, not sure if thats correct but either way his pure ability was sensational and if I was to ask anyone to write a tribute to me, you would be the first person id ask. Excellent job my friend:)
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:33
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Hi John, try to narrow them down to one please, I know its hard but who would you give the prestigous title of "Worlds Best Greyhound"?
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:39
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Hi Howard, not a whole lot Of write up about patricias hope on G-DATA.. Why do you think this dog deserves the mantle of WORLD GREATEST GREYHOUND?
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:44
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Hi Kevin, looked a real good dog this one and very recent as well, I like:)
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:48
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Ive heard a fair bit about this dog and that says a lot in itself:) cheers Carl
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:53
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 21:59
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Hi Todan, the fact that Tom's the Best is the only dog to win the Irish/English double speaks volumes about his ability. Cheers
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 22:04
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Some picture was a brilliant greyhound according to his record
Warren Mcmanus Australia (Verified User) Posts 741 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Dec 2012 22:06
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Hi Dave, even I have heard of Mick the Miller and im not overly old nor from Europe so Mick the Miller must of been very very good
Anthony Nash United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 139 Dogs 0 / Races 4 30 Dec 2012 23:14
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Warren mcmanus wrote:
Thanks Anthony. Not a lot on him on here though
Hi, as mentioned he (future cutlet) was odds on fav to win the '31 cesarewitch which he did by 5L beating mick the miller. Two months later went unbeaten through the Laurels (Wimbledon) starting at 2/5 for the final, winning by 5L. 1n the 1932 Derby won his first round heat beating eventual winner wild wolley clocking 29.62 which was a t/r, won his semi by 8L, beaten a neck in the final. Then went unbeaten through the cesarewitch starting at 2/7 for the final. The only dog during the competition to break 34.00 sec (which he did twice). Then the following year at the age of four won the derby beating Beef cutlet & Wild wolley (both classic winners).
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