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.....but the van should now be the place where he gets all his food.....and a bone to chew daily.
Give him a few days with the engine running for 5 mins ....then feed him in the van. progress to moving the van a short distance....then feed him.....youll get there...good luck.
This where my first thoughts while reading the thread - in common with the Hormons sure a solution. Does not say anything against a new home in Ireland as well. Nearly every pet-owner has to move his dog from time to time and can be happy with a dog, who gets along with that.
Hi Cindy if only that were possible, do you know anyone with a private jet who would cuddle him all the way to you? Tommy is a real gentlman he is kenneled with one of my retired girls who will be 10 in October and he loves to run about the field with her.
I've had a number of friends ship dogs from England to the states. Worked out rather well - they were sent unacompanied via British Air or Delta - in cargo though to the east coast. I even brought Evie with me to & from England [via France no less] for the Waterloo. Seattle is a bit far to go alone without a stop along the way for a potty break.
I wonder if it would work buying him his own seat - like certain "celebrity" animals??? Just a though.
Sounds like you're working through his issues though. I'm sure you'll land him a good home somewhere.
Hi Kathy - no rides yet tried him with his food in the van but he would not touch it - but he still jumps into the van and will eat a titbit in the van - his kennel mate was in the cage next to him and I gave her dinner to her which she eat and he just looked at his and her and then at me as if to say this is not right. Left him there for half an hour then put him back into his kennel where he eat his dinner without any fuss. So it will take a bit of time. At least he is not like a jelly anymore when he see the van. Will keep you updated when there is more progress.
Thanks Carole,i hope all goes well for him,poor lad,must have been some awful experience for him in that car crash.Your doing marvellous Carole. Keep me up dated.Take care.Kathy
Great progress for him ... keep at it slowly - he's going the right way but they can be quickly spooked again and lose their confidence. Maybe cook some liver and add a little warm liver to a little of his food and leave it in his cage in the van when you're doing these short sessions then he can have his own grub in his kennel but the grub in the van is mega :=))
Best wishes
Julie
Kathleen O'connor United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1819 Dogs 0 / Races 0 21 Aug 2009 17:31
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Hi Carole,any progress with the lad getting into cars yet?Kathy
Julie Sadler United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 766 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Aug 2009 14:59
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Just to say .. I run a training class for greyhounds and lurchers who have been adopted from the RGT (well anyone can come but usually it's only those from the RGT) .. we have had some very nervy greys including one girl who wouldn't leave her home .. too scared, the owners brought her to our class and at first had to carry her in but we put her in a quiet corner on her bed so it gave her confidence and the owners sat on the floor with her just sometimes stroking her and sometimes just watching the others ... she came for quite a long time and after about three weeks she stood up on her own and then had a little potter to the next greys bed and tried that one .. we ignored her and she built her confidence up bit by bit .. we then started to ask her to walk a little further with liver as a reward and sometimes she could and some weeks she gone backwards so we left her alone on her bed with her owners .. that was last year and eventually she could join in the class with the others ... I saw her last Sunday at our dog show - tail wagging, big smile on her face and very happy - she now is 'normal' and will go out and about with her owners.
In my (limited) experience some do take ages and the crucial thing is not to push them mentally or physically or they just shut down and you're further back than when you started ... it sounds like he's going the right way -it's just going to take a long time ... great work Carole :=)))
J xx
Cindi Patterson USA (Verified User) Posts 166 Dogs 23 / Races 0 22 Aug 2009 16:53
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It's always so much fun and smile-enducing when you see them make progress like that!
Julie Sadler United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 766 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Aug 2009 19:00
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:) Yes really great .. not many people here think you can train hounds but we find - as long as you train them in short bursts with lots of rewards .. they are really intelligent :))) I love it when they suddenly understand what we're asking them to do ... they just love to please :))
Susan Breininger USA (Verified User) Posts 2752 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Aug 2009 19:21
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WHAT?! "Greyhounds can't be trained"? Rubbish! Yes, I've heard that too and thought it was true until I ignored it and trained 3 of mine to "sit" and they got it quickly too! I didn't do Gracie 'cause she's 12 and creaky. :>) That's a long way from training one out of a trauma situation but they are SO clever that I doubt if any situation would be insurmountable. Good on ya - AND the owners - for being so patient!
Julie Sadler United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 766 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Aug 2009 20:00
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:) Maybe too cos I'm an Aries and saying 'can't' is like a red rag to a bul LOL .. Great fun as well.Good for you too Susan ... we'll show 'em :)
Gina, I have Farmer Tom *Tommy* on my site since Dec 9th 2008 EXTERNAL LINK at your request.
Have you got him on any other sites? I dont see any special story on your site about him or maybe I missed it.
Yes it is very hard to home Greys/Lurchers/Whippets in Ireland, I homed 6 Lurchers, 2 greyhounds and 1 Whippet in 2008.. 1 Greyhound, 1 Whippet only so far in 2009 in Ireland and all the others go to lovely homes in Italy thanks to Francesca and her team but I have never heard the public refer to them as filthy, dirty, nasty, cross, hyper, dangerous nervous "vicious killing machine's" these are words that people in rescue need to avoid, the public do need education as they seem to think that Greys are aggrissive on account of seeing them out walking with muzzles on and of course the poor old Lurcher is seen as a travellers dog and it will take time for us Irish people to accept them as pets and I am sure there are no reputable rescues out there that adopt dogs to people where a pet dog lives on a 6 ft chain attached to a dog house at the back of the garden 24/7 and food gets brought to it once a day.
Hi everyone well Tommy is coming along slow but sure, eats his food in the van jumps into the van on his own and when I started the engine he ws not that concerned perhaps because he had his food in front of him, but still goes like a jelly when I start to move the van, so progress is being made slowly. Hannah it is hard to educate people when they do not want to be educated, especially when you see how other animals are treated, and I just cannot get my head around people leaving their dogs all day to roam the streets. I think the best education has to be in the schools, if they come from families that care about animals then they too are being educated to care.
Kathleen O'connor United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1819 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Aug 2009 16:28
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Great news about Tommy Carole keep us informed of his progress. Best wishes.Kathy
Julie Sadler United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 766 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Aug 2009 21:50
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Carole Shinkwin wrote:
Hi everyone well Tommy is coming along slow but sure, eats his food in the van jumps into the van on his own and when I started the engine he ws not that concerned perhaps because he had his food in front of him, but still goes like a jelly when I start to move the van, so progress is being made slowly. Hannah it is hard to educate people when they do not want to be educated, especially when you see how other animals are treated, and I just cannot get my head around people leaving their dogs all day to roam the streets. I think the best education has to be in the schools, if they come from families that care about animals then they too are being educated to care.
Great great great :) Definitely going the right way ... great progress Carole :) We're lucky at Perry Barr RGT and have a very enthusiastic volunteer who has started Perry's Kids Club for under 16s .... if you can get them whilst they are young you can hopefully show them the right way ... but Ireland sounds a very different situation ....
Hi everyone well Tommy is coming along slow but sure, eats his food in the van jumps into the van on his own and when I started the engine he ws not that concerned perhaps because he had his food in front of him, but still goes like a jelly when I start to move the van, so progress is being made slowly. Hannah it is hard to educate people when they do not want to be educated, especially when you see how other animals are treated, and I just cannot get my head around people leaving their dogs all day to roam the streets. I think the best education has to be in the schools, if they come from families that care about animals then they too are being educated to care.
That is Great Carole and well done and good for Tommy!
I would like to thank you for the help to Tommy to can travel hopfly home then .. He is really lovely dog - i have seen him with Gina this week . i have tried the D.A.P. as well for my greyhound from PAWS feel better at home without me. but but the main succes was training so thank you :) . hope Tommi will one day have a fun in car like my Blacky - he knows we are giong to have a fun :)
Gina Hetherington PA Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1236 Dogs 563 / Races 0 26 Mar 2010 19:54
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Tommy is on his way home. Arrives tomorrow. So far so good. Paws x'd
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