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Sue for crying out loud why don't you butt out of this thread - it has nothing to do with you, and I think you, as a GD Team Member have overstepped your authority by becoming involved in this. Else, otherwise seeing you are that greatly interested in the money Gina gets, why not come over here and see for yourself what hard work is involved and what monies are available to pay all the hugh bills. We all promise the hatchets and guns will be hidden away.
Hi Honor - sorry I was only going by what was said - thought it was a bit funny that you would not be licenced. Bad times ahead - I think everyone will have to make comprises to make sure the retired greyhounds to do suffer.
Lilian M. Mazzola Italy (Verified User) Posts 157 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Jun 2010 10:11
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Yvonne Harrington wrote:
Lillian
Have you tried talking to Barry Colman direct....at the IGB offices
Perhaps you could come to some arrangement as we dont want to lose those lovely homes.
Perhaps some tracks could run Buster nights to make up the shortfall in transport costs
I will do it for sure , I'm going to be there in August (I can't take days off until the end of this month otherwise my boss will sack me out LOL) we need a reasonable long lasting agreement with IGB for the sake of the Irish greyhound or else they will be the losers
Ok....sorry Honor was only going on what I was told....I wasnt aware Ben did the trip
The sad thing to come out of this is..........NOW more than ever all new homes are eeded for our dogs..........Politics aside we cannot afford to lose those homes.
Once the Goverment are finnished with our Industry not only will the MORE DOGS be needing Homes..........theres a few DOG KEEPERS that will need a home as well......Very hard times ahead
Monika Then Bergh Germany (Verified User) Posts 571 Dogs 1 / Races 0 30 Jun 2010 12:07
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Andr Maritz wrote:
The world is in a global recession. Multi-billion dollar mulyi-national companies have gone bust. Countries are bankrupt. Banks have folded. The economy is in a shambles. Companies all over the world are struggling to grow. Most are cutting back. Un-employment all over the world is at a all time high.
Why would we expect greyhound racing as an industry in general and the IGB specifically, to be different?
Thats very true, Andr, I got less money these days as most of us. The result is, i can not afford, to take in another dog additional. If i`d be a breeder, i`d have to reduce breeding until the times get better. If i cannot pay for my dogs, i have got to many. This is no secrets.
Maybe the IGB should think of rules, which allowe more of the born dogs going into races instead of cutting down the money spend to rehome dogs. Sure they don`t get all Champions and THE BEST, but to bet is nothing to do with the fastes times. It gets the thrill out of 6 dogs more or less the same ability to win and then bet, which one may be the one today to make it... That would at least lift the money for the single retired dog in the rehoming section as less dogs would be to rehome in the end from the given amount of money. If one takes the 2% out of the price money grants and for fun devides through the assumed count of puppies born in the same year..... No need for any comment, if you`d want no healthy dog being put to sleep. The amount new dogs will allways be more or less be the amount elder dogs have to leave. That`s life.
But we realy have to find a propper and modern solution for that problem, if we do want to keep the dog-races alife. Otherwise it will strenghthen the anti-race-fraction. And i don`t think, that is what the majority here wants. Maybe Mr. Coleman may take part in this discussion here, if we do him wrong. That is not my intention.
Ben McBride only Takes the dogs as far as Italy...........I understand they are then transfered to a unlicenced transporter to go to eastern Europe?
Yvonne the greyhounds are homed in Italy they go as far as Modena in Norther Italy and the owners are there to collect them 2 or 3 are rehomed in Slovenia and the girls from the rescue centre in Slovenia collect them and take them to their new owners all have very good homes there.
it seems to me that greyhound people in general are doing there best to kill the sport.they bicker over allsorts of things instead of pulling together in this time of need, i dont mind if the person who helps me rehome one of my dogs also is rehoming other breeds or other animals as well,poor souls they all need our help. as for unlicenced transporters, are you saying that they are not looked after properly when they are taken to eastern europe?. if thats the case why are they sent there in the first place. why cant tracks put on charitie nights for the retired greyhounds, they do it for other charities, and football nights. we are all short of money now. i bred this year first time in two years.wont again for another couple, but if i had to rehome i would pay for it no wholes in the field or ears cut off, if you do things like that then you are not a greyhound lover. you are worse than the lowest creature that crawls on this earth.
Ellie that sort of thing happens rarely.........when it does theres a big fuss so we all hear about it....and rightly so
But you will never stop that heartless type of person....they are the same people who batter children.....set cats on fire and kick a terrier to death. THEY are not greyhound People.
There are many of us who do Pay for our dogs to be rehomed.....and keep them.....sometimes for 6 or 9 months waiting untill there is a space to go to Europe.
We are never spoken off.......just the slime who do the dogs harm. So the public thinks we all treat dogs that way.
as for unlicenced transporters, are you saying that they are not looked after properly when they are taken to eastern europe?. if thats the case why are they sent there in the first place.
I can assusre you, and I know the girls from GACI and Gina will also inform you, under no circumstances are the greyhounds mistreated they are collected by hard working people that have found loving homes for them in Slovenia. If Lily is reading this I am sure she or Gina will give you the web site for Slovenia Greyhound Rescue and you can see for yourself, I cannot remember the site off hand.
Yvonne I really would like some of these scum bags to come to our kennels and see how well we look after our greyhounds, instead we get labelled because of the, as you so rightly put it, Slime in the greyhounbd sport. The majority of my day is spent doing something for my greys. I came to Ireland for an easier life and I work harder now than I did in the UK all for my greyhounds.
Id be guessing this could be a "insurance concerne" with the IGB
They are a goverment body at the end of the day.........if there was a acident on the wat to their destination then all hell would hit the fan.
Yes I know Carol...........sadly good news does not fill the papers ...........
Honor Mc Bride Ireland
Posts 52 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Jun 2010 14:39
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unlicenced transport has nothing what so ever to do with the girls from slovenia greyhound rescure it is to do with 9 greyhounds leaveing ireland for europe taken by van that was not licenced to carry greyhounds on a 8 hour plus trip.
i have no doubt that dogs that go to europe are well looked after on the trip. and people over there are doing a grand job with the dogs. and we are very lucky that people from all parts of europe want our dogs.but all you hear is some people try to pull others down. now is the time for unitie, otherwise our lovely breed and sport will be gone. as for 9 greyhounds leaving ireland by van that was not licenced on a 8hour plus trip did they arrive safe,well, and in good health, if so what is wrong with that.at lest they have a chance of a home.
The transporters that are licenced have airconditioning. and meet other requriements that are set down in very strict goverment rules and regulations.
Im sure you will find that as a goverment body the IGB cannot be seen to be using unlicenced transporters.
Yes we know that 99 times out of a 100 nothing ever happens...but when or if it does..........the headlines would be against the IGB.
Big shame but im afraid this world is all about being correct and following the right procedures.
You have only to see whats going on up in the Dail this week to see the tune we have to march to satisfy the law makers.
Gina Hetherington PA Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1236 Dogs 563 / Races 0 30 Jun 2010 16:51
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Yvonne, they dont all have air conditioning, very few, if any. The 9 dogs transported to CZECH were transported by Tomas Mika & Tom Koch. If they can't look after dogs, then what hope is there for the world :0) They went in a vehicle from Shelbourne Stud. I am sure Tereza will post the link to their amazing homes. The dogs from Italy to Slovenia, go by car, but maybe that is illegal nowadays LOL.
Gina Hetherington PA Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1236 Dogs 563 / Races 0 30 Jun 2010 16:55
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I know Yvonne, but 3% of your prize money goes to RGT and IGB match it, supposedly, so maybe I am wrong, but does that not mean 6% of the prizemoney should be in the fund ? ? Was this money meant to pay for sand/skillnets/vec courses.
Gina Hetherington PA Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1236 Dogs 563 / Races 0 30 Jun 2010 17:05
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Hi again Yvonne, Your source is wrong. GACI transport is by a Dept of Ag licenced transport.
Here is the letter 'we' received from RGT, the one to the other groups may differ slightly.
If you need help or advice about a dog you are retiring then this is the place for you.
