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Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 18 Jul 2010 21:46
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John if Gina was looking for a good price she would have got back to you immediately, I think she was looking for free food.
Gina would you be kind enough to to tell us the % discount you receive on your food and the % discount you receive on your Veterinary expenses?
When you quote what it costs to have a dog desexed you alway quote the full whack, I find it very hard to believe that anyone having so many dogs desexed on a regular basis would not be receiving a rather large discount.
If you are transparent you should have no trouble answering truthfully.
Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 19 Jul 2010 01:46
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lilian m. mazzola wrote:
Sue GACI has his own profile on GD as well as PAWS or other rehoming group, dogs come to Paws first , they are foster down there , sometime for long time, after that we rehome them in Italy is just a matter of collaboration , simple and clear .
GACI will not stop rehoming greyhound , we will carry on our duty before you start any attack remember that we are an independent neutral agency not pay by no one of you, the contribution we had from RGT is only towards the transport for YOURS Irish greyhound.
Lilian you said it, Paws foster the greyhounds, you re-home them. I'm not sure I would agree with the word "foster" though, I have fostered many greyhounds (free of charge) and that entails getting them prepared for life in a home, bringing them into the house, testing them with small animals and children etc etc. Gina does not foster greyhounds, she boards them and she is paid for it.
Lilian no-one is attacking your group or the wonderful work you do. You have done the right thing by listing the dogs on your Adoption page as being adopted by your group, but don't you feel that the pedigrees of those dogs should show that they were adopted by you and not Paws?
Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 19 Jul 2010 01:49
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Gina Hetherington PA wrote:
If we admit a dog, neuter/vax/chip/rabies/worm & Flea it, and feed and care for it until it gets a home, then we 'home' it. Better get your legal team on that one Sue.
No you don't re-home them Gina and you shouldn't be claiming that you do, you board them and you receive an income for doing so, the groups who find homes for them re-home them, don't need a legal team to know that.
So why don't you go and change all those pedigrees that you have edited to show that they were re-homed by Paws to the name of the group who did re-home them, let's see how many you have on your list then.
Having two groups both claiming to have adopted the same dogs gives a false figure for the number of dogs adopted, and it just wouldn't be right to give the anti-racing groups false figures would it? That would only serve to bring us down to their level of publishing false information.
The Team at GD work hard at keeping our database as accurate as we can.
It does,nt matter if it was 5 bags of feed or 50 bags, it seems to me that Gina is ungrateful, talk about biting the hand that feeds you !!.
Funny, i always thought the dog-owners would be those, that should be grateful for all the work, much of it they get for free done by rehomers all over the world as Sue. And some of them bite a lot more than anyhow understandable.
Looks as if Jim would like to do the rehomer-job next. At least he knows better than me, how many pups are born in each litter on average. maybe 7,xyzt? Will make him the best rehomer ever, i am sure.
It does,nt matter if it was 5 bags of feed or 50 bags, it seems to me that Gina is ungrateful, talk about biting the hand that feeds you !!.
Funny, i always thought the dog-owners would be those, that should be grateful for all the work, much of it they get for free done by rehomers all over the world as Sue. And some of them bite a lot more than anyhow understandable.
Looks as if Jim would like to do the rehomer-job next. At least he knows better than me, how many pups are born in each litter on average. maybe 7,xyzt? Will make him the best rehomer ever, i am sure.
I am sure many owners are grateful for the rehomers that are pro racing - I never understood why the IGB would contribute to anti racing rehomers - makes no sense to me.
It does,nt matter if it was 5 bags of feed or 50 bags, it seems to me that Gina is ungrateful, talk about biting the hand that feeds you !!.
Funny, i always thought the dog-owners would be those, that should be grateful for all the work, much of it they get for free done by rehomers all over the world as Sue. And some of them bite a lot more than anyhow understandable.
Looks as if Jim would like to do the rehomer-job next. At least he knows better than me, how many pups are born in each litter on average. maybe 7,xyzt? Will make him the best rehomer ever, i am sure.
Monika...Lillian etc..........Greyhound owners are pleased with the work rehomers do.....they are all very greateful to you Girls out abroad who give there time for free.
What you must see is ....people in Ireland have had it up to there back teeth od "antis" telling them what to do.....continually going in the press and embelishing half triths to make a good storey.
You are seing the backlash here agaist Paws who is seen as anti greyhound racing by many and will now never been well recieved on here because of it.
Gina I think the way you have treated Redmills for trying to help you was very bad.....I feel for John and know hes very frustrated by it
despicable! human being are blind for the ego that move their mind, they prefer to spend energy fighting each other than look for a good way of life ...
One opinion from owner of retired greyhound from Ireland: I have never wrote to this topic, but now, I must! (Sorry of my english) I dont understand, why are the organizations as Paws attacted. Every day, they rescue a lot of greyhounds, they should be destroyed. "No adoption program, no living retired greyhounds." You dont know, what to do with retired greyhounds becouse they are hundrets and hundrets, but you ask "why the people from Italy, Sweden, Germany, Czech" dont pay everythink"? Greyhounds are "waste", but "somebody wants our super greyhounds" - pay for them! We dont buy a puppy or super racer, whe buy (assistance towards the cost of..) mostly the "injury, illness, disbelief, fear, and lot of work". A many of as pay only for a few months with his/her new retired greyhound, but we do it for the feeling, that that dog could live and die loved.
There is a saying....."If you throw stones dont be surprised if they are thrown back."
Sadly for Gina this is the result....for many years she has come onto here throwing stones.......People have lost patience with her approach.
I do hope the Greyhound isnt the looser in this.....from where you stand you are only seeing one side of the storey.....even other Greyhound Rehomers are getting fed up with Ginas tacktics
There is even a Dog Food Company on here who gave PAWS a free gift of 10 bags of food worth about 200euro and a promise of more at a reduced price......Paws threw this gift publickly in there face....with insult
Gina has done great work for the dogs but I dispare at her PR skills........she makes me look like Princess Dianna
We are not expecting you to Buy these dogs....this thread is giving entirely the wrong impression
This tread is sad very sad! pro and against, everyone has their own opinions, there are many truths and tales, but at the end the dogs are going to bear the weight. I am not a peace ambassador or anything LOL, but I think a lot of energy has been spend on here already.
Just a proposition that is a bit more positive, all of you happy keyboard clickers:-) and readers aswell, no matter pro Paws and against racing, pro greyhound racing and against Paws....whatever....! The story is obviously complicated and this can go forever if you like it too. I do have no doubt all of you here are PRO GREYHOUNDS!
Why not everyone who has read or written just donate 5 euro up to whatever amount you wish to give to an new open Irish account, that lets say GD member or someone trustworthy sets up for us in Ireland. If you like we can choose a whole new rehoming agency to take on the task. There are a few others than Paws. Than lets see how many greys all of us here can find homes for with the cash, ....naahhh thats something to talk about, ain't it? 5 euro is not going to make anyone less rich or poor. I would gladly organize this, but I live in "Santa Claus " land so its a bit far LOL, but atleast I can raise some funds towards this event and make a website for it.
So who would like to give it a go? So far the tread has had 16694 visits makes you think doesn't it?
a while a go i know somebody who was looking for a retired greyhound as company.i contact paws many times (phone,email even somebody who collected money for them) ,and never got a answer back.i went to a trainer and got one for him.both are now very happy
I remember you. And I recall telling you that we do not rehome dogs to individuals outside of Ireland without the back up of a local rehoming organisation. It would be totally irresponsible.
If you need help or advice about a dog you are retiring then this is the place for you.
