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hello I'm from Argentina I would like to know? I can take but for mothers breeding bitches. I would like to move the pure-bred greyhound with dogs removed from the tracks.? " my country is resource-poor we are overdue. but we love the greyhound leandrolencina thanks
My intension is to bring dogs and dog training outside in adopsion. and then remove them offspring. This would improve thoroughbred greyhound.
Wayne Larson USA (Verified User) Posts 2666 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Sep 2010 15:46
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Lencina, please write your message in Spanish and someone else can help to translate. Desafortunadamente (unfortunately) - your English is incomprensible (incomprehensible).
ok gracias yo tengo lugar para adoptar perras y perros que ya estan alejados de las pistas pero me gustaria ademas para sacarles crias para mejorar aca en argentina la raza greyhound(reproduccion) es decir mezclarlos con perros de usa irlanda australia y sangre argentina para llegar algun dia a tener los perros que tienen en esos lugares
Lencina from the bit I can understand it sounds as if you want greyhounds for breeding. Greyhounds that go for adoption, the rule is, they go as pets, the males have to be neutered and the females spayed this is so they will not be used for breeding.
gracias pero por que esterilizan las perras cuando se le puede dar un uso mejor por ejemplo en mi pais argentina.podriamos usar esos perros implemente para padres o madres y mejorar la genetica no les parece? los greyhound nacen para correr reproducirse y ser mascotas entiendo lo que dicen pero no entiendo lo que hacen
Hi Leandro, there are some very good male dogs that go to adoption in Ireland,UK,USA and Australia so i think the genetics of the greyhounds in Argentina could improve if you use one of them. In Argentina the races are 200 to 300 meters sprints and in Ireland USA and Australia they dont whant sprinters so you can import very good sprinters in the end of their racing days for free or almost. As for the bitchs if you whant a good one you have to spend some money but there are some whith good damlines for adoption.
Im going to say it in Portuguese for Leandro as it resembles to Spanish.
Ol Leandro voe pode levar para a Argentina bons galgos machos depois de eles terem acabado a carreira pois na Irlanda e Austrlia no querem sprinters para cruzamento. Nas femeas se voe quer bom tem que comprar mas tem algumas que so corredoras fracas mas tem boas linhas que so de graa ou quase. O melhor que voe pode fazer contactar com um treinador de top e falar os seus planos e pode ser que ele fornea alguns galgos que esto no fim de carreira para voe.
Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 26 Sep 2010 23:59
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Leandro, if your country is resource poor, as you put it, I would doubt too many(at least from Australia anyway) would be prepared to take the risk sending over their prize broods without having some sort of assurance of their future well being. If they cannot eed themselves, how are we supposed to know how the dogs are kept?
When I sell the broods overseas I MAKE SURE I know where they are going to and know that the clients buying them will look after them like queens. Lets hope your country and participents are the same.
Rob I totally agree with you but this guy has come onto the adoption section and obviously he does not understand that greys that go for adoption go as pets not to be used for breeding as I have tried to explain to him.
Jimmy Corbo Australia (Verified User) Posts 435 Dogs 16 / Races 126 27 Sep 2010 08:30
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Hi All,
He is looking for retired greyhounds to breed with to improve the breed in Argentina.
He wants to breed with US, Irish and Aussie blood to one day have dogs of that standard in Argentina.
Jimmy Corbo Australia (Verified User) Posts 435 Dogs 16 / Races 126 27 Sep 2010 08:34
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He is asking why we sterilize bitches(I assume he is referring to adoption program bound bitches)when they could be used in his country to improve the breed.
Greyhounds are born to run, breed and be pets, I understand what you are saying but not why you do it.
Jimmy Corbo Australia (Verified User) Posts 435 Dogs 16 / Races 126 27 Sep 2010 08:43
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Leandro,
No es tan facil la cosa, cuesta unos $4,000-$4,500 Australiano's mandar un perro desde Australia a Argentina.
En general la perra's que mandan para adopcion son muy lenta's y no sirven para cria. No solo lo genetico pero tambien la furia que tiene la madre es lo que influye en su cria.
For the English speakers, I'm just advising Leandro of the transport costs to Argentina and advising that in general the bitches sent to adoption programs are slow and not worth breeding with. I'm not going to get into the whole breeding is about bloodlines and speed doesn't matter argument, that horse and has been flooged to death on other topic's....LOL
I said it's not only the bloodlines but also the speed of the bitch that influences her stock....Oops I think I just opened the can of worms.
I think it would be worth to shift this thread into Breeding where it should be. It may be here in adoption for the reason to mix adoption an retirement from races by missunderstanding/ problems with the language.
un perro no nace campeon, un hijo de un campeon y de una campeona pude terminar en adopsion. por ejemplo hay grandes maratonistas dan hijos esprinters. y grandes hijos de sprinters dan maratonistas disculpeme mr tayler : pobre no quiere decir no tengo amor al greyhound usted cuando vende un cachorro vende una ilusion despues eso puede terminar siendo campeon y madre, o terminar en adopsion. cual es la diferencia la foto del final? y por que el ganador escriba la historia no quiere decir que sea la verdad. Un choque, una mala salida, una lesion, un mal entrenador etc hacen la diferencia entre un campeon y un adoptado?.eso parece suerte no adn Adopt es: *una segunda posibilidad no la ultima oportunidad * un compaero para toda la vida y la vida continua con los hijos *dar vida, y la vida es desision de ustedes? Acaso si los adoptados sangran su sangre no es roja como la de los campeones gracias help me and help the retire greyhound
en ingles:
a dog is not born champion, a son of a champion and a champion could finish in adopsion. for example there are children sprinters great marathoners. great sons of sprinters and marathoners are excuse me mr Tayler: poor does not mean I have no love of greyhound when you sell a pup sell an illusion then it can end up being champion and mother, or end up in adopsion. what is the difference of the final photo? and the winner writes the history does not mean it is the truth. A crash, a bad start, an injury, a bad coach etc make the difference between a champion and an adoptee?. It seems luck is not DNA Adopt is: * A second possibility is not the last chance * A partner for life and life goes on with children * Give life, and life is desision of you "? Perhaps if adopted bleed your blood is not red like the champions thanks all help me and help the removed greyhound
Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 30 Sep 2010 00:34
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Mr Leandro...the only reason I asked the question was that because of the huge transport costs from Australia to Argentina for dogs, it didn't make a lot of sense to me. It might be cheaper to find them from another country, rather than Australia.
If you need help or advice about a dog you are retiring then this is the place for you.
