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Wayne Neilan Australia (Verified User) Posts 562 Dogs 21 / Races 8 14 Mar 2011 09:51
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Des Lees wrote:
wayne neilan wrote:
Q. how do u stop a greyhound from being impregnated? A. put in in a seperate yard or kennel Q. how do u stop a cat from getting impregnated? A. put in in a cage or seperate room Q. how do you stop your child getting pregnant? A. get the pill or rod in the arm (bet u dont mutilate there genitals)
all three of these can be used on any pet/person there are anti pregnancy pills for animals , there are abortion pills for pets too and we all have doors in our houses and its easy to buy a cage lol
Wayne, I think you just answered the question "dangerous Greyhound" Our children show agression? We teach them Not to do it! To me it is no different than parenting, we teach our children right from wrong, and as responsable trainers or pet owners we should teach our animals right from wrong! very simple really! My licence has the word Trainer on it, my guess is that it is on there for a reason!
why didnt i think of saying that lol indeed we are resposibal for training therefore we must
Kyleigh Fahey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1058 Dogs 11 / Races 3 14 Mar 2011 10:04
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wayne neilan wrote:
it is the owners responsibility to look after there pets not to have them altered
Wayne, didnt you just have a rib removed from your greyhound?
because you wanted him to chase a lure around a track for money?
Bit hypocritical if you ask me, had he have just been a pet it never would have been done, so you 'altered' your dog
so you do what you want for your dog for racing and they do what they need to for rehoming
Kyleigh Fahey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1058 Dogs 11 / Races 3 14 Mar 2011 10:07
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Banger Harvey, great dog, will NEVER breed a litter, simply because he is already desexed, there are quiet a few dogs and bitches racing that will never breed
no dogs balls are cut off when desexed, so Wayne I would say , no you dont know how the procedure goes
Truck Mcnamara Australia (Verified User) Posts 563 Dogs 3 / Races 0 14 Mar 2011 10:07
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Here in QLD if your hound is not desexed you pay a higher rego fee.
I have had both here at my place+there is no differance in there attitude.
If a pensioner wants to save a G-Hound for a pet then they should be paid+not sacrifised by the all mighty dollar.
Wayne Neilan Australia (Verified User) Posts 562 Dogs 21 / Races 8 14 Mar 2011 10:32
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Kyleigh Fahey wrote:
wayne neilan wrote:
it is the owners responsibility to look after there pets not to have them altered
Wayne, didnt you just have a rib removed from your greyhound?
because you wanted him to chase a lure around a track for money?
Bit hypocritical if you ask me, had he have just been a pet it never would have been done, so you 'altered' your dog
so you do what you want for your dog for racing and they do what they need to for rehoming
no because he had severe internal bleeding where his rim puntured into his kidney i want going to let him die his still recovering
Wayne Neilan Australia (Verified User) Posts 562 Dogs 21 / Races 8 14 Mar 2011 10:35
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Kyleigh Fahey wrote:
Banger Harvey, great dog, will NEVER breed a litter, simply because he is already desexed, there are quiet a few dogs and bitches racing that will never breed
no dogs balls are cut off when desexed, so Wayne I would say , no you dont know how the procedure goes
my grandmother 8 years ago had her dog desexed they cut off the dogs balls and sewed it up
Kyleigh Fahey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1058 Dogs 11 / Races 3 14 Mar 2011 10:48
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I dont remeber you saying that was the reason, it is on a thread here.
I would imagine that your grandmother dog actually had testicular cancer, no vet cuts off a dogs balls, ask your vet
Ann Karamoutzos Australia (Verified User) Posts 5087 Dogs 8 / Races 0 14 Mar 2011 10:53
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Wayne - it is against the law in Victoria for us to rehome an undesexed or agressive dog.
Wayne Neilan Australia (Verified User) Posts 562 Dogs 21 / Races 8 14 Mar 2011 10:54
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i will ask the vet. on here it say the dog was in severe pain and wouldnt corner, when taken to the veti was informed the rib was found to be poking into his kidney and there was a lump full of blood surrounding the area, the vet suggested he go under straight away due to the internal bleeding,
i may never race him again as i only race / trial the dogs the give them a run i dont do it for profit and he seems quiet happy laying here on the couch
if you like you can see my facebook page where there are photos of the ribs and the blood mass limp that is aprox 2 inch in diamiter
Graeme Beasley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3265 Dogs 27 / Races 5 14 Mar 2011 10:57
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Kyleigh, my dog was desexed via having them removed (at a leading greyhound vet) and he's just as happy and full on as he always was. I'd have it done again if need be without a problem.
Wayne Neilan Australia (Verified User) Posts 562 Dogs 21 / Races 8 14 Mar 2011 10:57
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Ann Karamoutzos wrote:
Wayne - it is against the law in Victoria for us to rehome an undesexed or agressive dog.
the laws should be ammended , when i sold my litter i stated to the buyers that under no circumstances are the dogs to ever go into the gap program due to there policys. all dogs sold by me when done with will be bought back by me or returned to me. thats what annoyed me with grand armour i was looking for her for over a year and had 5000 to buy her as a brood bitch and found out that due to the gap program she was destroyed as a brood bitch by being desexed and now the black armour line is dead
Kyleigh Fahey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1058 Dogs 11 / Races 3 14 Mar 2011 11:09
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was it just a normal desexing or was it because one didnt drop and was he racing at the time, there can be a number of reason they are fully removed, having them fully removed in a racing grey can make a massive difference in its performance, but normally they wont do it, unless of course they were worried about cancer, I think older dogs when they are done then sometimes remove the lot, I dont see any problem at all with dexing a dog, in my mind it makes you a responsible owner not irresponsible
Graeme Beasley wrote:
Kyleigh, my dog was desexed via having them removed (at a leading greyhound vet) and he's just as happy and full on as he always was. I'd have it done again if need be without a problem.
Helen Laird Ireland (Verified User) Posts 788 Dogs 15 / Races 0 14 Mar 2011 11:33
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It always seems to be MEN who get het up when theres talk about desexing or "neutering" as we call it.
To us women it seems reasonable !
Graeme Beasley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3265 Dogs 27 / Races 5 14 Mar 2011 11:39
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Kyleigh, he was retired after 3 starts due to injury and had them cut out after that for desexing purposes. They were normal and there was no hint of cancer.
helen laird wrote:
It always seems to be MEN who get het up when theres talk about desexing or "neutering" as we call it.
To us women it seems reasonable !
Women love it when talk turns to guys having them cut off, why is that?
Wayne Neilan Australia (Verified User) Posts 562 Dogs 21 / Races 8 14 Mar 2011 11:41
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Graeme Beasley wrote:
Kyleigh, he was retired after 3 starts due to injury and had them cut out after that for desexing purposes. They were normal and there was no hint of cancer.
helen laird wrote:
It always seems to be MEN who get het up when theres talk about desexing or "neutering" as we call it.
To us women it seems reasonable !
Women love it when talk turns to guys having them cut off, why is that?
i believe it gives them a sense of power
Helen Laird Ireland (Verified User) Posts 788 Dogs 15 / Races 0 14 Mar 2011 11:43
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Graeme - Touch
Wayne Neilan Australia (Verified User) Posts 562 Dogs 21 / Races 8 14 Mar 2011 12:09
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helen laird wrote:
Graeme - Touch
Touch is french for affected ,smitten and touched
Helen Laird Ireland (Verified User) Posts 788 Dogs 15 / Races 0 14 Mar 2011 12:37
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Did you just look it up Wayne ?
Its a french word used in fencing.
Used in general conversation to admit that your opponent has scored a hit. ....but I was affected and smitten by graemes comment.
Kyleigh Fahey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1058 Dogs 11 / Races 3 14 Mar 2011 12:39
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it means touch but not the others, it originally started in fencing, I believe when one fencer attacked another and they avoided it with a strike of there own which touched, Touch as in like good hit, good come back, not as in the sense to touch
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