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Penelope Rigg
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Hi,
Just wondering if anyone on here shows their greyhounds?
I'm after some information on how easy it is to make the transition from the track to the show ring.
Thanks
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Brad Napper
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Best tip is to go to a show and see what confirmation greyhounds look like. there isa bit of a difference. Secondly you need a judge that will judge on the dog and not the handler. It's been done before but normally confirmation breeding will get the cookies over a race bred dog. The joys of confirmation i guess.


Penelope Rigg
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Hi Brad I show huskies. In particular duel purpose huskies (so pretty dogs that were actually bred to work before looks were considered)I have found it hard, but I still think its worth it, and the switched on judges will mark you fairly. I would love to see one being shown but there are none currently being shown up here.

Anyone know what paperwork is involved?


Rebecca Frederickson
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22 Jul 2011 10:07


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Hi penelope, showing a racing greyhound can be done, but don't expect them to win best in show.I have shown my girl around all our local shows and she has recieved her australian champ title. Her name is blue heaven and you can look her up on this website. I started showing her before she was retired from racing then we retired her and put about 3kgs on her because the judges don't like racing weight.Paperwork depends on what state you live in. with queensland you have to register them with the canine control council this involves a form and a fee, you must be the owner of the dog as they require the greys papers to register.
Not many racers go on to be show dogs one thing the dog must have is a good nature and be other dog friendly as you are involve with showing you know how many little fluffies are around and the grey could be in the ring next door, not a good look if your grey is trying to eat them. show bred greys are usually a lot bigger and have a deeper chest then racers.
hope i have helped



Robynne Black
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Penelope Rigg wrote:

Hi Brad I show huskies. In particular duel purpose huskies (so pretty dogs that were actually bred to work before looks were considered)I have found it hard, but I still think its worth it, and the switched on judges will mark you fairly. I would love to see one being shown but there are none currently being shown up here.

Anyone know what paperwork is involved?

Hi Penelope,
I have a few that I have duel registered and shown. You need to contact Greyhounds Australasia and ask for a 12 Generation pedigree (I think about $12) then fill in the required forms for your local CCC (now Dogs Qld ect). Don't send your original race papers with them for registration, just a copy.

Joan Newman showed a dog who was currently racing at the time through to 2 BIS (400+ entry shows) , a stunning silver brindle dog who's name escapes me but he was awesome and a good racedog as well.

Oh - and it's frowned upon for judges to look at ear tattoos.

I showed this girl for a while before I put her into adoption, she was a 30kg bitch and did quite well EXTERNAL LINK ( she just had messy ears.)
Best of luck :-)


Claire Needham
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22 Jul 2011 20:54


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Hi Penelope
I also have several dual registered greyhounds ( and a couple of show bred ones) It is true that 99% of the time the show one will beat the race one.
It is easy enough to re-register them with your state body although there is a bit of running around involved. In NSW you need a 5 gen pedigree from Greyhounds Australasia, and a few other bits of paperwork from your state's controlling body. If you want to email me [email protected] I can tell you the whole process. It is harder to register an unnamed pup as you need an ANKC registered prefix but can be done.
I have EXTERNAL LINK who is the first and only race bred grey to get her Grand Champion, also winning a RUBIS along the way. I am currently showing a couple of her pups including EXTERNAL LINK who is currently the #1 greyhound puppy in Aust.



Jacki Winders
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22 Jul 2011 20:56


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I've done both. I re-registered a track dog from Victoria and showed him here in NSW.

It's not hard to re-register, the toughest thing that you face is the prejudice that exists regarding the track dogs, regardless of how good their conformation is.

None of mine are good enough for the ring at the moment, but they can run LOL

My boy did well in his short career in the ring. Sadly he was already neutured and he was unable to contribute to the gene pool.

EXTERNAL LINK


Penelope Rigg
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Hi All, thanks for the info so far. Its been a big help.
Rebecca you put a smile on my face when reading your post. Sounds like showing a Grey is like showing a husky. Anything small and fluffy is fair game.

If he doesn't come good in the next few months then he'll be in for some hard show training and a change in career.

He's a big black boy with 2 testes, it's just the fluffy dog thing that that he'll need work on and growing some hair on his butt. It would be great if their was less prejudice in the ring, then more show homes might open up to these dogs and give them a second chance. It might be a good way of preparing them for GAP type programs too.

Does his racing name become his show name? or will they use a breeding prefix first?




Robynne Black
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22 Jul 2011 21:51


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His racing name will be his show name


Penelope Rigg
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Claire Needham wrote:

Hi Penelope
I also have several dual registered greyhounds ( and a couple of show bred ones) It is true that 99% of the time the show one will beat the race one.
It is easy enough to re-register them with your state body although there is a bit of running around involved. In NSW you need a 5 gen pedigree from Greyhounds Australasia, and a few other bits of paperwork from your state's controlling body. If you want to email me [email protected] I can tell you the whole process. It is harder to register an unnamed pup as you need an ANKC registered prefix but can be done.
I have EXTERNAL LINK who is the first and only race bred grey to get her Grand Champion, also winning a RUBIS along the way. I am currently showing a couple of her pups including EXTERNAL LINK who is currently the #1 greyhound puppy in Aust.


Hi Claire,they look really nice. Just the thought of grand champ is mind blowing. I know how hard it was to get racing breed husky to aust champ, but a grey to grand champ. Thats good stuff, I can appreciate the work you would have put into that. I'll send an email through to you after work today as I have some more questions. thanks


Graham Hasler
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22 Jul 2011 22:06


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I believe this greyhound
CLICK HERE
got to Crufts, won several prizes including veterans and good citizen award for blood donations etc. So it can be done with ex racers!

He also won RGT greyhound of the year.

A greyhound bitch we retired this year is now learning agility with her new family and doing really well at it!.
Suprisingly she has even taken to the 'A' frame and tunnels!!! LOL


Claire Needham
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Penelope Rigg wrote:

I'll send an email through to you after work today as I have some more questions. thanks

Email hasnt come through yet if you sent it. There is a _ between the shantiah and igs in the email. Otherwise ph is 0408 889 484


Penelope Rigg
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Hi, have sent the email I missed the _.


Julie Pearson
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This boy did well in the show ring in the uk CLICK HERE


Jacki Winders
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I can't read the ribbons qick enough, but what did the UK boy win ?


Donna Sadler
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Hi Robynne,
What a lovely girl. No wonder she has done well. What is her breeding?
Donna


Donna Sadler
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Hi Claire,
Skadi is a stunner!
What weight woud she be?
Best of luck with your show dogs!
Good to see the greys out in the ring. They are a superb dog.
Donna


Donna Sadler
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Hi Penelope,
I used to show my mals and Sibes too but they were the bigger rangier type as I raced them and also did weight pulls etc. They were the real working type which is not very much like the show dogs you see in the ring today.
Overseas judges that competed with their dogs in racing etc, appreciated the type in specialty shows but at the open shows we very rarely topped the class!!
Its a shame when the show ring actually alters the type of a breed until they virtually could not do the purpose they were originally bred for.
But I guess it happens in a lot of the breeds and not just dogs. The top level halter Quarter Horse could never get down and work a cow or get around a reining pattern.
Each to his own, I guess!
Good luck with your greys and sibes!
:-)
Donna


Claire Needham
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25 Jul 2011 00:41


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Thanks Donna

Skadi raced at 28kg but showed at 30-31.


Penelope Rigg
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Donna Sadler wrote:

Hi Penelope,
I used to show my mals and Sibes too but they were the bigger rangier type as I raced them and also did weight pulls etc. They were the real working type which is not very much like the show dogs you see in the ring today.
Overseas judges that competed with their dogs in racing etc, appreciated the type in specialty shows but at the open shows we very rarely topped the class!!
Its a shame when the show ring actually alters the type of a breed until they virtually could not do the purpose they were originally bred for.
But I guess it happens in a lot of the breeds and not just dogs. The top level halter Quarter Horse could never get down and work a cow or get around a reining pattern.
Each to his own, I guess!
Good luck with your greys and sibes!
:-)
Donna

I don't understand why the show ring feels the need to alter the confirmation of dogs so now they are not suitable for their original purpose. We did well with duels under international judges but not the Aussie ones so in the end I would try and show under international only.
I have noticed that the Americans have been responsible for lot of these changes in some specific breeds.

What do you think is the biggest challenge when showing a grey?

Donna do you still have sibes?


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