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Ann Karamoutzos Australia (Verified User) Posts 5087 Dogs 8 / Races 0 15 Aug 2012 10:50
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Yvonne Harrington wrote:
Isnt the idea of rehoming them to get them a nice forever home where they are part of a family.....not that they "survive" outside on thier own?
absolutely Yvonne
It isn't just about the weather it is about the dog being part of the family - a companion Alot of greys do not do too well left on their own, they have been used to living in a kennel with other dogs, so if suddenly they are on their own - especially put outside ewhen the human pack are inside, they can be very unhappy - bark, become destructive etc. And lets face it, they are absolutely no trouble to have inside so why not!
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 15 Aug 2012 10:59
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I,m glad to see this thread up and running I think I,m in a pretty good position to weigh in to this thread with no problems.At present we have a girl here she was a farm reared girl and she is a last start winner she has a beautiful nature and she loves indoors she is at the stage of going to the back door and whimpers to get your attention to let her in the yard to empty she has the freedom of the lounge and most of the house except the bedrooms yet when we go to our rooms at nite to sleep she has the freedom of our bedroom doors being open she has came in a couple of times and jumped up on the end of the bed and sat at my feet she will sit there for a long time as if to guard or look out for me and she only ever goes to the door of Jo,s bedroom and she won,t enter because she knows Mel is sitting up on the end of Jo,s bed and Mel won,t let her pass Jo,s door if Kate attempts to go in Mel growls and Kate wanders off.They are allowed to sit about while we are having a meal and they wait until they get their treat of what we eat.They eat most foods they get excited when I come home from the road because they know I have a treat for them usually 1 and 1/2 smacko sticks each they love there icecream and the small slice of cake and they love their playtime which is usually trying to grab Kates front feet while she is in the box or crouch position on the floor and she does know how to try to avoid your hands Mel will sit on the lounge and she pretends to bite when you try to get her feet,when in the yard they enjoy playing running in circles around you while you try to catch them and they love the toys ball on a rope and quite a few others.Mel or Melena Bale has no worries about ever finding a home because she will never leave our side.Kate on the other hand could be placed and this is where the problem begins Kate has to find a home that suits her new owners or carers call them what you will.Kate is good around kids,little dogs but definitely not cats she is a great walker and loves a swim but on a lead or a rope even though she may be a lounge lizard Kate is just as much at home walking on the lead with the other dogs and the pups and she loves to run... My honest opinion on rehoming our dogs is this ...Greyhounds are very protective of their habitat they are very loyal to their owner and they will try to fit in in most environments but the biggest problem is this a greyhound must be rehomed with someone that can fit in with them ...because they enjoy a very sedate lifestyle ...there is no problems with a greyhound living in the backyard but give them a house a warm bed a cool kennel in the heat of the day and be prepared for the unusual like digging up the geraniums and lying in the hole they dig,of dragging the clothes off the line and lying on them and of course trying to put them out when their wet when you go to answer the phone.There was 1 day here I went outside for something and heres Mel standing up on the table finishing of a frame of chicken we had bought home.These dogs are wonderful animals and they will fit in with humans but please do them a favour place them with people that can fit in with them Kates resume ....Hi I,m a beautiful black 3 and 1/2 year old princess and I love living in a house but not just any house my new owner would need to be a lady and she must enjoy walking because I,m only a lounge lizard till the collar and lead is clipped on to my neck then it,s let me at the door and the footpath the beach the park and I,ll share lunch with you or a barbie just the 2 of us ...then we could do it all again next weekend because I,m a good girl and have very few dislikes ...oh what,s this a cat meowwwwwwwwwww that,s my biggest dislike ...oh I have to live with that mmmmm...beter get the American muzzle and lock the bloody cat up till I get use to it ....this,lll be the death of one of us ...lol Oh yes and I would like to know how my best friends are doing because my home there was the best so if you have to go on holidays mum and dad will look after me at no cost All greyhounds could be rehomed the problem is finding new owners that would fit in with the dog ...and there in lays the problem ..we have 3 pets and there is not a greyhound that could,nt share our home every dog we train,own are allowed to come inside they are allowed on the lounge the floor or in the sunroom in the hamock because they are a great huggable friendly dog even the old cranky ones
Jess Keast Australia (Verified User) Posts 34 Dogs 7 / Races 0 15 Aug 2012 11:19
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John McAlister wrote:
I,m glad to see this thread up and running I think I,m in a pretty good position to weigh in to this thread with no problems.At present we have a girl here she was a farm reared girl and she is a last start winner she has a beautiful nature and she loves indoors she is at the stage of going to the back door and whimpers to get your attention to let her in the yard to empty she has the freedom of the lounge and most of the house except the bedrooms yet when we go to our rooms at nite to sleep she has the freedom of our bedroom doors being open she has came in a couple of times and jumped up on the end of the bed and sat at my feet she will sit there for a long time as if to guard or look out for me and she only ever goes to the door of Jo,s bedroom and she won,t enter because she knows Mel is sitting up on the end of Jo,s bed and Mel won,t let her pass Jo,s door if Kate attempts to go in Mel growls and Kate wanders off.They are allowed to sit about while we are having a meal and they wait until they get their treat of what we eat.They eat most foods they get excited when I come home from the road because they know I have a treat for them usually 1 and 1/2 smacko sticks each they love there icecream and the small slice of cake and they love their playtime which is usually trying to grab Kates front feet while she is in the box or crouch position on the floor and she does know how to try to avoid your hands Mel will sit on the lounge and she pretends to bite when you try to get her feet,when in the yard they enjoy playing running in circles around you while you try to catch them and they love the toys ball on a rope and quite a few others.Mel or Melena Bale has no worries about ever finding a home because she will never leave our side.Kate on the other hand could be placed and this is where the problem begins Kate has to find a home that suits her new owners or carers call them what you will.Kate is good around kids,little dogs but definitely not cats she is a great walker and loves a swim but on a lead or a rope even though she may be a lounge lizard Kate is just as much at home walking on the lead with the other dogs and the pups and she loves to run... My honest opinion on rehoming our dogs is this ...Greyhounds are very protective of their habitat they are very loyal to their owner and they will try to fit in in most environments but the biggest problem is this a greyhound must be rehomed with someone that can fit in with them ...because they enjoy a very sedate lifestyle ...there is no problems with a greyhound living in the backyard but give them a house a warm bed a cool kennel in the heat of the day and be prepared for the unusual like digging up the geraniums and lying in the hole they dig,of dragging the clothes off the line and lying on them and of course trying to put them out when their wet when you go to answer the phone.There was 1 day here I went outside for something and heres Mel standing up on the table finishing of a frame of chicken we had bought home.These dogs are wonderful animals and they will fit in with humans but please do them a favour place them with people that can fit in with them Kates resume ....Hi I,m a beautiful black 3 and 1/2 year old princess and I love living in a house but not just any house my new owner would need to be a lady and she must enjoy walking because I,m only a lounge lizard till the collar and lead is clipped on to my neck then it,s let me at the door and the footpath the beach the park and I,ll share lunch with you or a barbie just the 2 of us ...then we could do it all again next weekend because I,m a good girl and have very few dislikes ...oh what,s this a cat meowwwwwwwwwww that,s my biggest dislike ...oh I have to live with that mmmmm...beter get the American muzzle and lock the bloody cat up till I get use to it ....this,lll be the death of one of us ...lol Oh yes and I would like to know how my best friends are doing because my home there was the best so if you have to go on holidays mum and dad will look after me at no cost All greyhounds could be rehomed the problem is finding new owners that would fit in with the dog ...and there in lays the problem ..we have 3 pets and there is not a greyhound that could,nt share our home every dog we train,own are allowed to come inside they are allowed on the lounge the floor or in the sunroom in the hamock because they are a great huggable friendly dog even the old cranky ones
What an inspiration speach. Can we come live at house to. Sounds cozy lol. Completely agree with all of that :)I think the main thing we need to start/keep doing to getting the good side of the greyhounds out. Let people know how they are. Maybe do some "from the dog owners mouth" reviews, so to speak.
Ann Karamoutzos Australia (Verified User) Posts 5087 Dogs 8 / Races 0 15 Aug 2012 23:57
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Well said John
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 16 Aug 2012 06:46
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A woman that Jo worked with at one stage told Jo she would have a look at Kate and take her for a walk she done this then a couple of days later the lady came back with her male friend they took Kate for a walk and then he came over to me for a chat he said to me that she could still race and I told him if I wanted her raced I would do it myself when he said that that was it I just told Jo no way she agreed end of section.Another lady rang Jo after Jo advertised kate on her works website she told Jo that she wanted a companion for her Rhodesian Ridgeback we said fine and when the lady told Jo they had an old cat there also and that Kate would have to be in the yard all the time I just pulled the pin on that one.The old bloke next door watched the pups grow up from around 6 weeks old he use to go to the side fence and pat them the whole 11 he loved Ralph and Ralph enjoyed him about a 6 weeks ago Jo said to me that she was going to take Ralph to see Warwick next door which she often done the next day waarwick was taken to hospital with prostrate cancer the old fella next door never had a pet dog he had a mate in Ralph and I would dearly love to clean Ralph up and take him over to see his mate but dogs are,nt allowed in hospitals
Ann Karamoutzos Australia (Verified User) Posts 5087 Dogs 8 / Races 0 16 Aug 2012 12:07
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You should check with the hospital John - you never know. Have visited nursing homes with greys in the country that are attached to hospitals. Give them a ring and spin them a good tale. Good luck.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 16 Aug 2012 12:10
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Didn't Donna Sadler manage to take a grey in to see her mum when she was very ill in hospital ?
Liz Breukink Australia (Verified User) Posts 1103 Dogs 15 / Races 0 16 Aug 2012 22:56
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linking in to what Jess Keast said, our awesome racer had his career cut short due to pannus. i wanted to keep him, but then the old boy could see him needing to sit on the floor, so we came to an agreement. when Romeo came back from racing, i put him thru his paces much as you would a dog going into racing and learning the caper. the whelping shed we have is set away from the other dogs, so he spend a couple of days and nights there. it is a little house with concrete and sandpit outside. i would bring him into the house, on a lead with muzzle on, as i have another grey living in the house. she didn;t like him, cracked it big time, but i kept pushing the boundaries. the stints in and out of the house was accompanied by normal dog obedience training and house training. first thing the sod did was to piss on the door frame. i tied a long piece of fleecy round his doodle bits and within half an hour he walked out of the 'belt' and never cocked a leg in the house again. angel greyhound started to warm up to him. he slept on our bed during the day, but on his cot mattress at night. the first few times he tried to sleep on the couch, he ended up falling off. the tv was a monstrous scary thing, until one night i walked in and here he is, with his nose pressed to the screen, watching dog races. we do not have a small dog or cat. to see how he would respond, i took him to my girlfriends place, who does have a cat, and has just over a 2 week period, turned one of their ex racers into a cat friendly dog. what she did in 2 weeks, we did in half anhour flat. first step was to place the cat in a cage with towel over it. walked past, no response. take towel off, again no response. let cat loose house, he did look with a what the, then spotted the couch and hopped on it to have alook out the window. we took him off the lead and he happened to walk past the cat, had a sniff, and then decided to show us how well house trained he was. NOT. strange house and their male entire greyhound lived there, so it could be put down to a territorial thing. his eye medication still needed a lot of tweaking before i was happy to let him go to the gap. i had pre booked a spot for one of our dogs in april 2012. a week before the due date, i received a phone call and i asked if i could have some more time, due to his medication. no worries. what happens then is you have a holding spot. the minute you are ready, dog can go to the gap. rather than a 5-6 months wait, it may be a 2-3 week wait. in romeo's case, when i did ring, they could take him that week, but i wanted to spend some more time with him. he went to the gap in may, by this time he is fully house trained, learned how to sit, got led astray on numerous occassions by his half sister, a very polite funny ex racer. from the gap, where he did indeed test fine with little dogs and cats, he wnet into fostercare for 2 weeks and lived with 3 cats. i had the wonderul opportunity to stay in touch with the foster carer during his stay there. he then went back to the gap and in early july i received a phone call from his new owner. she took him in as a foster with intent (which means someone will take the dog, and if it all works out, the dog either stays or goes back to the gap) and four days after getting him, decided he was staying. he now lives in brighton and has a rather busy social life. had he not been suitable for the gap, he would have simply stayed with us. but he now has a wonderful life, and in the process i have made some lovely new friends. the world we live in is changing. what may have been accepted as the norm 20 years ago, does not wash anymore. in this process, not only have i been able to follow his progress and gotten to know how that side operates, it also lets people into my life that may never have had the opportunity to be able to see the life of the greyhound from pup to racing to pet. i get very upset when i read about hounds being dumped at pounds. or people saying 'you can't put a ex racer into the gap'. by keeping communication lines open and building bridges we forge a much better future, for racing and beyond. i thoroughly enjoyed this process. and if you are wondering who the dog is, he is my romeo, son of andy palmer and redburst, grandson to my bestie and beautiful Emma. his racing name was 'Kid Palmer'. and he kept his pet name 'Romeo'. i have put some pics up on my profile, feel free to go and have a look. :)
Jess Keast Australia (Verified User) Posts 34 Dogs 7 / Races 0 16 Aug 2012 23:18
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Liz breukink wrote:
linking in to what Jess Keast said, our awesome racer had his career cut short due to pannus. i wanted to keep him, but then the old boy could see him needing to sit on the floor, so we came to an agreement. when Romeo came back from racing, i put him thru his paces much as you would a dog going into racing and learning the caper. the whelping shed we have is set away from the other dogs, so he spend a couple of days and nights there. it is a little house with concrete and sandpit outside. i would bring him into the house, on a lead with muzzle on, as i have another grey living in the house. she didn;t like him, cracked it big time, but i kept pushing the boundaries. the stints in and out of the house was accompanied by normal dog obedience training and house training. first thing the sod did was to piss on the door frame. i tied a long piece of fleecy round his doodle bits and within half an hour he walked out of the 'belt' and never cocked a leg in the house again. angel greyhound started to warm up to him. he slept on our bed during the day, but on his cot mattress at night. the first few times he tried to sleep on the couch, he ended up falling off. the tv was a monstrous scary thing, until one night i walked in and here he is, with his nose pressed to the screen, watching dog races. we do not have a small dog or cat. to see how he would respond, i took him to my girlfriends place, who does have a cat, and has just over a 2 week period, turned one of their ex racers into a cat friendly dog. what she did in 2 weeks, we did in half anhour flat. first step was to place the cat in a cage with towel over it. walked past, no response. take towel off, again no response. let cat loose house, he did look with a what the, then spotted the couch and hopped on it to have alook out the window. we took him off the lead and he happened to walk past the cat, had a sniff, and then decided to show us how well house trained he was. NOT. strange house and their male entire greyhound lived there, so it could be put down to a territorial thing. his eye medication still needed a lot of tweaking before i was happy to let him go to the gap. i had pre booked a spot for one of our dogs in april 2012. a week before the due date, i received a phone call and i asked if i could have some more time, due to his medication. no worries. what happens then is you have a holding spot. the minute you are ready, dog can go to the gap. rather than a 5-6 months wait, it may be a 2-3 week wait. in romeo's case, when i did ring, they could take him that week, but i wanted to spend some more time with him. he went to the gap in may, by this time he is fully house trained, learned how to sit, got led astray on numerous occassions by his half sister, a very polite funny ex racer. from the gap, where he did indeed test fine with little dogs and cats, he wnet into fostercare for 2 weeks and lived with 3 cats. i had the wonderul opportunity to stay in touch with the foster carer during his stay there. he then went back to the gap and in early july i received a phone call from his new owner. she took him in as a foster with intent (which means someone will take the dog, and if it all works out, the dog either stays or goes back to the gap) and four days after getting him, decided he was staying. he now lives in brighton and has a rather busy social life. had he not been suitable for the gap, he would have simply stayed with us. but he now has a wonderful life, and in the process i have made some lovely new friends. the world we live in is changing. what may have been accepted as the norm 20 years ago, does not wash anymore. in this process, not only have i been able to follow his progress and gotten to know how that side operates, it also lets people into my life that may never have had the opportunity to be able to see the life of the greyhound from pup to racing to pet. i get very upset when i read about hounds being dumped at pounds. or people saying 'you can't put a ex racer into the gap'. by keeping communication lines open and building bridges we forge a much better future, for racing and beyond. i thoroughly enjoyed this process. and if you are wondering who the dog is, he is my romeo, son of andy palmer and redburst, grandson to my bestie and beautiful Emma. his racing name was 'Kid Palmer'. and he kept his pet name 'Romeo'. i have put some pics up on my profile, feel free to go and have a look. :)
Thank you for that Liz. I love that story. And Romeo. That story hits the nail right on the head. I little work with the race dogs to see if there are ready to go into gap would help a lot. I know it takes time and your spending money not earning it, but its whats good for the dogs after all.
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