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John McAlister
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I know this is a very touchy subject but I think it,s one that should be talked and debated about.
I know we have wonderful rehoming societies in each state but what I would like to know is how long does it take to get them into a new home and if there are many homes available for the dogs out there.I,m sure not all dogs that don,t make the grade are sold overseas etc so does anyone know what is happening in the rehoming programs.
We do our own training and preparation of the dogs if they are not up to scratch or have finished racing trained right and given the right conditions that suit the dogs temperement most dogs can be eased into a new lifestyle as pets etc
But if they can,t find the right homes and companions because they are,nt out there ...what do you do
No I am not an Anti and when it comes to the Blue Cattle dog and the Greyhound well there should be a home for all of them in my opinion



John McAlister
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31 Aug 2012 22:22


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I did,nt think it was that touchy ...lol



Alex Taylor
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31 Aug 2012 22:27


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I would say that there is little interest in the subject to most people. Or, the 'I just don't want to know' mentality



Jeffery Hanson
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31 Aug 2012 23:30


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I think all kennels should have a mandatory number of dogs that need too be rehomed based on tge quantity they breed/race!! Plus stricter guidelines and penalties in regards too euthanasia on dogs that are fit and healthy!!



Monika Then Bergh
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01 Sep 2012 00:10


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John, you didn`t miss that, did you?
This is only been 6 years ago.
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One does not need to be any form of "anti", to think, that this is wrong.
Every child knows that by the bottom of his heart.



John McAlister
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01 Sep 2012 00:15


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Jeff thanks for the reply and Alex I think you have hit the nail right on top of the button



John McAlister
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01 Sep 2012 00:53


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I am trying to find out the best way to try to rehome any dogs we own and own now. That crap has been going on for so long about being paid for the service it,s old hat
We have been asked to foster 1 or 2 dogs and get them ready for rehoming but we have to do our own and on top of that we don,t have the kennel space.The people that we have talked to about taking a pet leaves a lot to be desired I,m afraid

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Monika Then Bergh
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Sorry, John, I don`t want to play any anti or whatever.
In fact I am a bit disturbed you seem to get me into a box where I absolutly don`t belong.

It is just that I live half way around the world and might have a different sight on things as the situations are not same state everywhere.

Might be I got you wrong, as I allways thought our opinions what might be best could be relatively close.

From my view here in Europ I see, that it is not that easy to get these amount of dogs rehomed in Europ at the moment seeking for a place to stay and live a happy bouncy doggylife, we (homers) would like to have it.

This has realy and very true absolutly nothing to do with pro or contra. It is fact, that one needs someone to adopt, if he wants a dog to be adopted. To get enough people wanting to adopt a greyhound is not easy and a longterm goal. As you say - the Greyhound is not a dog for everyone ..

I do have two retired racers here with me and don`t see what should be wrong with them (very oposit in deed :-) but most of my neighbours do have a quite different point of view.

The best way would be to have enough adopters willing to take a retired racer home as pet. But yet we are not at that point - just trying hard to get nearer.

PS: The link was the only way to get them counted, John.. all those "humanely destroyed" ones are uncounted - it is just i can`t get any figures of them.. might be this is been our missunderstanding



John McAlister
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01 Sep 2012 03:14


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I have seen some but not many Greyhounds walking around home here and others on my travels but not many and to me they look underdone and lethargic they don,t look the proud Canine that they are.Yes I was asking members if they thought there are enough people out there to adopt the greyhounds we are quite happy to get them into the household routine and to let them down into the pet type dog needed to go to someone but no one seems to want to say whether they have had dogs adopted out and I have,nt met anyone that says they put their dogs in the greyhounds as pets scheme



Monika Then Bergh
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Decide on your own
She is 10 and with horryfying arthritic joints since she came here at the age of 3 and a half
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he is blind, came run down with flees and unerweight at the age of under three
the picture was taken when he was about 6 years
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They are not young, healthy and fit when rehomed - at least many of them..
and in deed i was happy, if i had the sea near enough to walk at the beach. I just try my best.



Clint Anderson
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02 Sep 2012 08:30


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John, I guess i depends on where you live as to how many greyhounds you see around. I adopted my pet called 'Little Things' from Vic GAP just over six years now. I still stay in contact with his former trainer via emails, photo's or seeing her around the tracks. I have also been a foster carer for other former chasers ( most of these dogs I still hear from their owners at least once each year). And having raced dogs for the last few years I have put some of my own through the program. Most of these people I have a good relationship with, and have past on mementos from there racing career to the new owners.


Dale Doran
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02 Sep 2012 09:33


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Couldn't agree more Jeffery.



Grant Thomas
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On our 1st walk out of our hotel in N.Y.C...was in Riverside park...and in that grand metropolis the first dog we saw being walked was a rehomed greyhound...made our day...


David Hermon
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03 Sep 2012 07:52


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I'm a courier Driver for a private Hospital in Fitzroy Melbourne and i can happily report to seeing 4 or 5 being walked around the local streets.

Strangely it seems like when you buy a car all of a sudden you notice heaps of the same make and model driving round the streets ...now all i see are greyhounds .....GREYHOUNDS everywhere!!



Bryan Leach
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Monika Then Bergh wrote:

John, you didn`t miss that, did you?
This is only been 6 years ago.
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One does not need to be any form of "anti", to think, that this is wrong.
Every child knows that by the bottom of his heart.

Its a fact that after this story hit the public domain of the atrocities some people inflict on the greyhound, the gradual demise of dog racing which was once a trickle in the U.K. has now developed into a torrent.

Very soon in the south of the U.K. the only greyhound stadiums to stand their ground will be those owned by bookmakers to preserve the game into the betting shops. The cartoon greyhound racing they are serving the public may be attractive as a novelty, but the real punters certainly prefer the true greyhounds to wager their cash on.

Im afraid that unless the sport stops all the squabbling within itself and elects a saviour to pull the sport up by its shirt-tails, this torrent will soon become a flood. I have a friend, who sends me whole threads from Greyhound Scene, and I despair, it is full of back-biting, back-stabbing, insinuation and contempt for whoever is in the driving seat of whichever organisation that have irked their ire this time around. As the sport cries out desperately for a leader of men, the more their squabbles persevere. In fact, there was more leadership at Custers last battle at the Little Big Horn than is being shown currently by the rank and file of the greyhound industry.

The re-homing of retired racers is a must above all else if you are to raise awareness that all is well within the sport. This alone keeps many former race goers away from the stadiums they once clamoured to attend, and they voted with their feet. This must be brought home to the public by advertising, as well has badgering the media to write or broadcast tales of the heart-warming kind to an apathetic public whose spendable pounds are now taken elsewhere.

When I walk around my local park with my hounds, 90% of people who stop and talk to me about the sport always show concern for the greyhounds that make the sport tick. In fact three out of the four people who walk around in my little group are so appalled at the tales they have heard over the last few years havent been to a greyhound meeting ever; the odd one out is me.

Greyhound racing can be saved, but its going to take a very big man to do it, but is there one?.



Ken Murray
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bryan your spot on, when i had to stop training my dogs and used to walk round the park with my 2 dogs off the lead when they got used to walk with other dogs, people used to say how sad it is that after they stopped racing ther;e put down, but now they see what wonderful pets they make some of them say the next dog they get will be a greyhound, sadly a couple of months ago i lost the last of my dogs at the age of 14yrs and now have a rehomed dog, as i could;nt stand the house being so empty and he;s a star and settled in like he;s been here for yrs, and when i take him to meet the grandkids all the other kids stroke him and the parents are quite surprised how gentle he is, ive seen more greys around since the reholming of these dogs is getting more publicity the last 20yrs so i hope it continues,but as you say it will take more years getting the message across.



Johnathon Campbell
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In my town there's a greyhound club and they get together every two weeks and catch up with everyone that has rehomed greyhounds.
There also at local shows with a marque full of greyhounds with rugs on laying on beds etc.
Family's and kids stop and pat the dogs abd the lady's promote the cause and it's absolutely marvelous.
Also when owners and there friends come to the stables to see there horse's they comment on the nature of the dogs as there wondering through the complex often trying to get the stable cat.
I think that it's upto everyone to promote the greyhound as a pet and not just a object of racing.



Johnathon Campbell
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I should also add that I've been in contact with the Bunbury trotting club to seek there support by letting the club to come in on one of there race nights with there dogs.
If the club allows this to happen than I'll be incontact with the local papers to cover the event.

That's my part towards helping the greyhound.



Tor Janes
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Interesting reading.

ANIMAL WELFARE IN VICTORIAN GREYHOUND RACING

Wednesday 14 November, 2012

GRV appointed Dr Linda Beer as its full-time Animal Welfare Manager back in 2007. Dr Beer oversees the greyhound racing industrys many animal welfare initiatives and has focussed specifically on breeding practices within the industry with the aim of decreasing the number of litters bred, and increasing the quality of greyhounds whelped. Dr Beer also works to ensure participants comply with regulations and requirements relating to greyhound ownership and on educating the greyhound industry participants about their animal welfare responsibilities.

As a result of these initiatives, over the past four years there has been a 20 per cent reduction in the number of litters bred and in the last two years, a 15 per cent decrease in the number of greyhounds euthanized in Victoria. GRV recognise the number of greyhounds euthanized is still too high and is continuing to develop and implement animal welfare initiatives aimed at further reducing these numbers.

It is mandatory for all new greyhound trainers to attend an education session and undergo a kennel inspection prior to obtaining their license and GRV has mandatory competency requirements to qualify as a breeder or trainer both of which have a large animal welfare focus.

All owners are encouraged to place their greyhounds in the Victorian Greyhound Adoption Program (GAP) when they are no longer suitable for racing. Since GAPs inception in 1996, thousands of greyhounds have found homes as pets via this fantastic program. GRV is continually looking for more members of the public to adopt a greyhound, as the organisation believes greyhounds make fantastic pets due to their calm, placid and loving nature.

GAP Victoria is the most successful industry run adoption program in Australia. The program is fully funded, operated and owned by GRV, at its dedicated adoption facility in Seymour. In addition, GAP runs programs such as the Prison Pet Partnership, where inmates at Dhurringile and Tarrengower prisons provide foster care, preparing greyhounds for their lives as pets.

GRV rigorously enforces the requirement of owners to report when their greyhounds have been retired from racing, and retirement reporting is monitored every month by GRV staff. If a greyhound owner chooses to euthanize their greyhound they are required to supply GRV with a Veterinary Certificate of Euthanasia to ensure the practice has been done humanely.

In 2005/6 the Responsible Breeding Task Force (RBTF) was established to address the issue of over-breeding of greyhounds. The RBTF put forward 17 recommendations all of which were endorsed by the GRV Board in 2008 and all of which are currently in place - either in their entirety or in a modified format.

In 2012, GRV expanded the RBTF to create a new Animal Welfare Taskforce with a wider scope than addressing breeding practices alone. The Animal Welfare Taskforce sees representatives from the greyhound racing industry work together with bodies such as the RSPCA to suggest, develop, and prioritise new animal welfare initiatives.

GRV introduced the mandatory micro-chipping of all adult greyhounds in 2011 to improve integrity within racing and to enhance traceability of all greyhounds through their entire lifecycle. GRV fully funded this endeavour and continues to heavily subsidise micro-chipping.

To increase the number of racing opportunities for greyhounds with poor form or limited ability, GRV introduced Family Race Meets in 2007 which was expanded into Tier 3 racing in 2010. This immensely popular initiative is aimed at prolonging the racing career of greyhounds that may not have the ability to compete in some of the races in Victoria. GRV also supports other forms of racing such as Coursing and Veterans Races to allow greyhounds every chance of continuing their careers.

Every race meeting in Victoria, whether it is Tier 1, 2 or 3, Coursing or Picnic Meeting is attended by an on-track Veterinarian to ensure greyhounds are fit to race and can receive timely care if accidents occur.

GRV has a robust Integrity and Stewards department comprised of 36 staff responsible for upholding the rules of racing and ensuring standards of care are met. Over the past two years, GRV Stewards have conducted thousands of random and targeted kennel inspections all over the state. The number of inspections is set to increase in the future.

The use of prohibited substances in racing is a serious matter, and GRV continues to expand and increase testing - pre-race, post-race and out-of competition. Working with GRVs testing laboratory - Racing Analytical Services Limited (RASL) - Stewards collected 3,133 samples in 2011 with a total of 22 positive swab results returned. The majority of positive results were for therapeutic drugs and despite regular testing, there were no positive swabs returned for erythropoietin (EPO).

GRV is serious about providing an exciting racing product that values high standards in animal welfare and will continue to develop and implement strategies that ensure continual improvement across the Victorian greyhound racing industry.





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Tor you should of let XFILE CHUB post this mate ..He will be so pissed off that some 1 got in before him ....lmfao....I cannot wait to see what XFILE CHUB has to say about this matter ..

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