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Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 17 Mar 2013 11:54
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I was walking my Italian Greyhound this morning in the local dog park when she was attacked by a greyhound wearing a box muzzle. Fortunately as the dog was muzzled the mauling was done with feet and the muzzled mouth. I managed to pull the dog off whilst the owner stood by and "thanked" me. My dog was obviously traumatised and whilst I was busy caring for my dog the greyhound owner slinked off and left the park. Should this dog seriously be off the lead in a dog park with small dogs as the fact that it is muzzled suggests they know it's potentially dangerous. I dread to think what would have happened if it had managed to get the muzzle off.
Mark Duffy Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1327 Dogs 24 / Races 3 17 Mar 2013 12:14
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Was your dog off the lead and running free?
Douglas Campbell United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 3940 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Mar 2013 12:20
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We took in two retired Greyhounds recently ; the bitch is as docile as can be and would probably not be a danger to other dogs ; the male however is more excitable and could prove a potential threat if let off his lead. The dogs trust ( and other rehoming centres ) recommend that the breed is kept muzzled and on a lead while out in public and only let off in a safe enclosed area and that is the approach we choose to take. It sounds as if the dog that attacked yours should be kept on a lead.
Douglas Campbell United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 3940 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Mar 2013 12:20
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Mark Duffy wrote:
Was your dog off the lead and running free?
Fair point to ask Mark.
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 17 Mar 2013 12:23
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She was off the lead but walking alongside me - I thought greyhounds were being promoted locally here in Brighton as making good pets - this one is doing nothing to help the cause as the attack was witnessed by shocked onlookers.
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 17 Mar 2013 12:32
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Not sure what your point is - she runs free in the dog park every day like all the other well behaved dogs. My question is should this greyhound be loose hunting quarry in the same park and what do we have to do to get it put under proper control.
Mark Duffy Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1327 Dogs 24 / Races 3 17 Mar 2013 12:33
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I'd say your both to blame in this case, .that's if the greyhound didn't slip his collar whice can unfortunately happen...... If all dogs are kept on a leash then this would not of happened!
How hard would of been for you to lift the whippet into your arms if he was walking so close to you?
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 17 Mar 2013 12:41
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It's a dog park where responsible pet owners take their dogs to exercise them. The muzzled greyhound is off the lead and clearly in the ownership of someone who doesn't know how to deal with a quarry fixated dog. The park is full of small furry pet dogs - this greyhound appeared for the first time today. My dog is an Italian Greyhound not a whippet - they are much bigger. There are several retired greyhounds in the park who pose no danger but this particular one is high risk and the owner clearly needs advice as he is not acting responsibly and in the process is damaging the image of greyhounds as pets locally.
Mary Crotty Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1116 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Mar 2013 13:42
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Its the owner thats wrong ,all dogs are different from the smallest to the biggest,you can get greyhounds that will chase anything that moves ,others wont chase anything ,others are playful who will hurt a small dog even when musseled ,i dont think any greyhound should be off the lead as their instint is to chase ,glad your dog is ok .
Barry Coppard Ireland (Verified User) Posts 766 Dogs 46 / Races 1 17 Mar 2013 13:51
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Any owner that has his dog off the lead in a public place is acting irresponsibly.
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 17 Mar 2013 14:52
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Thanks Mary - yes she's fine but I think this chap urgently needs some advice as I really don't think he understands about his dog's prey drive and how dangerous this is in a designated fenced pet dog park. I'd like to be able to point him in the direction of some advice organisation if he attempts to let the dog off in the park again but not sure who? Even with the box muzzle my little dog is severely bruised but we've all seen what greyhounds are capable of doing if they manage to flip the muzzle over their head. Of course the next thing will be the dog ends up in a shelter because people in the park complain and it's not the dogs fault it's being let loose amongst small pet dogs.
Mark Duffy Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1327 Dogs 24 / Races 3 17 Mar 2013 16:09
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It could of been any type of dog that attacked your dog in the park..... Your doing nothing but hi light the down fall of the retired greyhounds!
Here is the only bitta advise to tell the owner of the greyhound ... Keep a lead on your dog in a public place!
It could of been any type of dog that attacked your dog in the park..... Your doing nothing but hi light the down fall of the retired greyhounds!
Here is the only bitta advise to tell the owner of the greyhound ... Keep a lead on your dog in a public place!
Problem solved.
Agree - when living in Copenhagen City I often walked my greyhound in the park and very often my greyhound was attacked by other dogs - german sheppard, boxers, labradors, mops - yeah I know sounds odd, but them little fuc.... can rip a greyhound leg to pieces.... my point is - no good highlighting it was a greyhound as if all retired greyhounds are dangerous, but the owner of that particular greyhound should be told off and to keep his dog on the lead as Mark pointed out!!! Glad to hear your dog is all right - it can be a very frightening experience.
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 17 Mar 2013 17:19
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Mark which bit of this didn't you understand?
'There are several retired greyhounds in the park who pose no danger but this particular one is high risk '
I am not highlighting the downfall of the retired greyhound - the owner did a pretty good job of that himself today whilst standing back amongst the onlookers whilst I dragged his prey motivated greyhound off my dog.
I was just pretty shocked (over it now thanks) that my dog could be mauled by a greyhound running loose in a box muzzle. Not a good advert for our local Stadium which pushes these dogs as ideal pets. I thought there was some sort of training advice he could be given -but "keep it on a lead" might work.
Maureen Day United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1246 Dogs 4 / Races 4 17 Mar 2013 18:08
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Well I am at a loss as to why you titled your topic "Advice Please - Dog Attack" when you are clearly not wanting to listen to any advice except that which puts the greyhound concerned, and it's owner, in the wrong.
I don't suppose you got any details from the owner of the greyhound did you Kevin?
Even if you didn't it may be worth contacting Jenny Bunting at the BGOA RGT on 01444 881788 (the greyhound could be one that they re-homed) and you could suggest that they need to make sure people taking on these most beautiful of dogs know what to do when out and about in areas where there are other dogs off the lead.
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 17 Mar 2013 18:30
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Thanks Maureen - this morning when I posted my topic I was pretty upset and angry by what had happened - it is possible to like greyhounds without wanting your own miniature version mauled in front of your eyes! Putting a box muzzle on a dog and letting it loose in a pet park is pretty irresponsible and does the breed no favours. There are a number of retired dogs who run freely without muzzles and are perfectly safe - this is the norm in our park. I didn't get details of the dog except it was a white bitch with fawn ears and a red box muzzle. I intend to speak to the owner next time I see him in the park and suggest the dog shouldn't be off the lead - although I feel he already knows this. I will give Jenny a ring tomorrow and see if my description of the dog and owner rings any bells. Thank you
Peter Bell Australia (Verified User) Posts 1460 Dogs 3 / Races 0 17 Mar 2013 20:36
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KEVIN You can think yourself OR your dog VERY LUCKY that the other dog was wearing a muzzle OR the end result would have been far worse then a few scratches
Wayne Larson USA (Verified User) Posts 2666 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Mar 2013 04:32
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Let's review some basics. Where I live in the Chicago area, dog parks are established by counties and municipalities as places where dogs with good dispositions can safely socialize and enjoy themselves off-leash. The link below to one countiy's dog park brochure serves as good orientation with common-sense rules.
Dogs are individuals with unique personalities, and many generalizations made about entire breeds - greyhounds and others - are simply overdone and untrue. Most greyhounds tend to be friendly and docile off-leash, but there are always individual exceptions. This goes for other breeds too. At our favorite dog park - Greene Valley - a separate fenced area is provided for dogs under 25 pounds, simply because many large dogs will regard small dogs as prey.
Greyhounds are very popular at our park, with five or six out together at the same time with their owners. They get along well with all the dogs but tend to cluster with other greyhounds, playing chase games.
Again, the individual dog's behavior is what must be managed. There is one greyhound that plays well off-leash, but is "leash aggressive" when being walked to and from the parking lot. That is a trait peculiar to that particular dog. Some individual dogs regardless of breed behave aggressively toward others. Their owners are responsible to remove them from the park and not bring them back. Some years ago I had a greyhound that was bitten without warning on his hindquarters by a bull terrier. It required a costly trip to an emergency vet on a Sunday to stitch up a large flap of dangling skin. Do I hold it against bull terriers? No, because I've encountered a lot of other bull terriers with great dispositions.
Technically, the owner of the dog that bit mine was liable for damages because it was an unprovoked attack in front of witnesses, but that wasn't my primary concern at the time. We don't live in a totally risk-free world. Dog parks can never be completely risk-free. Kevin's experience is regrettable, but not uncommon, and his Italian Greyhound could just as easily fallen victim to some other breed of dog. Of one thing we can be sure. The greyhound that attacked Kevin's dog has no business being returned to an off-leash area unless it can be reliably trained not to,attack.
Michael Stuart Australia (Verified User) Posts 943 Dogs 97 / Races 1 19 Mar 2013 10:39
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Glad to hear your dog isn't badly injuried, lets also hope there is no mental scars, or aggressive behavior from your dog in the future.
For the greyhounds owner hopefully he was upset also by the ordeal, and has learnt his lesson and from now on, walks the dog on a lead and keeps the muzzle on.
Monika Then Bergh Germany (Verified User) Posts 571 Dogs 1 / Races 0 20 Mar 2013 14:09
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Kevin Lindsay wrote:
Not sure what your point is - she runs free in the dog park every day like all the other well behaved dogs. My question is should this greyhound be loose hunting quarry in the same park and what do we have to do to get it put under proper control.
Simply No! THIS ONE Greyhound should be at the lead until it knows how to behave. Is there any questions?
A Greyhound is a dog and to get off lead any dog irrespective of the breed needs to behave correct in the actual circumstances. No dog, if pet or not, may bother any dog or human? And it is always the responsibility of the one out with the dog to care for that, isn't it?
Maybe I should add, that I keep one my own, which goes on the lead if anyone turns up with a small dog while my other may be free for she behaves perfect.
If you need help or advice about a dog you are retiring then this is the place for you.
