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Lorcan O'Neill
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The new rules have been in palce for a good while now. On the DEFRA website they origianlly said

"3) Under the EU pet movement system, all pet dogs, cats and ferrets moving between EU Member States must meet the same animal health rules. From 1 January 2012 the requirement is that all pets travelling from the Republic of Ireland to the UK should be microchipped, vaccinated against rabies and accompanied by a pet passport.

As both the Republic of Ireland and the UK have had no indigenous rabies for many decades, compliance checks on pets travelling between the two countries will not be applied. Pet owners travelling with their pets should therefore not experience any change on the ground from the 1 January."

I can't find this statement anymore (the DEFRA website has changed) but the above statement implied no checks despite the rules.

Perhaps you can ring the PETS helpline in the UK for clarification


Carole Shinkwin
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I have just spoken to a guy called Craig in DEFRA (my telephone ref. no. 77346) and every dog (No Exceptions) has to have a passport - fully vaccinated, rabies, micro-chipped and then a 21 days wait before travel. Pups have to be 3 months old. Anyone stopped that does not have this, then the dog/s will be seized and a fine imposed on the owner and the transporter. When I asked why as the UK and Ireland does not have rabies - told, EU have enforced this on all EU countries.

So selling and sending a greyhound to the UK now, (who will incur the costs - the buyer or the seller)? and it will be up to the transporter to make sure every greyhound he is transporting all have their passports. OMG what a nightmare!!!



Laurence Byrne
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looks like this is for the welfare of the vets ?
will lead ultimately to decimation of dog numbers
most small businesses in ireland have been legislated to death.,for instance the sheep industry reduced by half costing in lost earnings up to 400 million euros !!!
the small pubs have been destroyed, etc count the cost and the cost is not always financial.
common sense is rarely applied.


Helen Laird
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01 Oct 2013 14:45


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Germany lost the 2nd WW, but are now beating most of Europe in the current fiscal war.

There is to be a massive audit of the agriculture department in Ireland by the EU next year. Ireland cannot afford to fail it.



Lorcan O'Neill
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01 Oct 2013 15:38


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laurence byrne wrote:

looks like this is for the welfare of the vets ?
will lead ultimately to decimation of dog numbers
most small businesses in ireland have been legislated to death.,for instance the sheep industry reduced by half costing in lost earnings up to 400 million euros !!!
the small pubs have been destroyed, etc count the cost and the cost is not always financial.
common sense is rarely applied.

vets did not bring this law in



David Jobson
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01 Oct 2013 17:06


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NO IT WAS UNELECTED EURO MPs.Who fly into Brussels on an early flight sign in to get their 280 then fly back,roll on next year when we get our referendum to vote whether to stay or leave the EU.

Also Sheffield combined sales on the 20th October,what will happen to the sales as there is not enough time for these sales dogs to be covered.
On another note Greyhound Feeds in the UK are VAT free as the hounds are classed as working animals,may be a way around the rules.


Orchard Greyhound Sa
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This is not a conspiracy by Irish vets, British vets, DEFRA or anyone else. Someone "upstairs" at the EU found out that dogs have been traveling between Ireland and the UK freely and insisted this cannot be allowed, that what goes for the Continent goes for Ireland and the UK, too, and we are not to be exempt. They don't care about rabies-free or anything like that. THEY DON'T CARE. Dogs Trust has been fighting this for a long time now as has DEFRA and they have not been able to make any progress at all. On top of this, someone traveling with a cat a week or so ago was stopped on the UK and to make a long story short, their pet cat was put to sleep. Dogs Trust is much bigger and much more influential than the greyhound industry, and their hands are tied now. There is nothing the IGB or the Irish government can do about this. Nothing.




Monika Then Bergh
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I would like to link this article by the World Small Animal Veterinary Association (WSAVA) here, as it is associated with the topic.

"November, 07 2013 - Written By: wsava -
WSAVA and OIE Call on Political Leaders for Action on Rabies
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Therein we may find the reason for the strict opinion according the vaccination against rabies within the EU member states.





David Jobson
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12 Nov 2013 15:42


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Monika Then Bergh wrote:

I would like to link this article by the World Small Animal Veterinary Association (WSAVA) here, as it is associated with the topic.

"November, 07 2013 - Written By: wsava -
WSAVA and OIE Call on Political Leaders for Action on Rabies
EXTERNAL LINK "

Therein we may find the reason for the strict opinion according the vaccination against rabies within the EU member states.

During her lecture, Professor Sarah Cleaveland, Professor of Comparative Epidemiology at the Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine, University of Glasgow

Ironic that she lectures in Scotland where greyhounds do not have to be chipped(unless racing under rules).

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