Paw note: The "Martian" has never won further than 431m. Heart attack time after that! Huss

The answer is simple Simon.
Find a new testament and read any of the 4 gospels. (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John).
You will soon see the difference between organised religion and the followers of Christ. The religious ones killed Jesus. Today, the Catholic Church (and others) are killing him all over again.

Now, I'm interested in your beliefs my friend.
How did the universe begin? How will it end? What happens when we cark it? AND, where did you learn this?

So my plan was to walk out on the water, drop a net and command the stripeys to fill it.

And none of my mates are FOCers. Or mates to be honest.

Now if I was walking in the Tarkine wilderness and dropped dead I would lay there and decompose wild animals might have a crack at me,fly's and worms would break me down and as the years went by I would blend into the environment,what bones were left would be covered with foliage and eventually all signs that I ever existed will be gone.

My soul or the person I am would end there with my last breath and if my family or friends want to picture me doing the things I love and mingling with other family members or friends who have passed before me up in heaven well that to me is heaven it is only the thoughts of others whilst remembering you not an actual place but just happy thoughts.

I did an apprenticeship with three Irishmen and all had a different way of doing things my way evolved from observing all three and choosing which was best for me the same goes with life.
I went to a public primary and a Catholic high school, my mother's side of the family is religious my dads not.

Obviously my way of thinking has been influenced by science and other non religious thoughts which you may think is wrong or conspired but many religions all over the world differ drastically and you all can't be right. My issue starts with the story pretty much at the start "immaculate conception" and lost me from there I think it's the biggest game of Chinese Whispers the world's ever seen no offense I respect everyone is different.

Peace be with you....

Two different fishermen I've asked about stripeys and no one is selling professionally but will put the feelers out further that's if you haven't already got someone getting you some.

The words 'immaculate conception' are not found in any bible.
They are a product of the Catholic system. Along with the rosary beads and making dead people Saints.
And the birth of Jesus was not the start. It was around 10,000 years after the start. And Jesus was at the start as well.
It's not that hard to believe in a virgin birth if you already believe in God.
You see, if God created the universe, then surely it would be within his power to enter the womb of a virgin, to be born of human flesh, to walk amongst them, defeat temptation, sin and death, then ascend bodily back to heaven, leaving behind clear and concise directions how to follow him. There is not any Historian with any credibility that denies the fact that Jesus the man, lived. At the time of his death, there was a huge population of Jews and a large Roman army that hated Jesus and was glad to see him killed. The last thing they wanted was to see him again. So when word spread that he was alive, surely it would have been in their best interest to dig up the dead body of Jesus and say 'look idiots, hes dead'
But like Enoch, Moses and Elijah, his body has never been found. And the bible records that all have gone to heaven.

Here's another example of how religion is killing God.
Abraham is the Father of the Jews, the Father of Islam and the Father of Christianity. Abraham worshipped one God. The Talmud says it, the Koran says it and the Bible says it. Yet we have 3 seperate religions who hate and kill each other.

Yes if you dropped dead in the Tarkine, your body would decompose. That happens to every body, regardless of beliefs.
Its what happens to the Spirit, once the body dies, that is the big issue.

And as far as believing in science? or scientists? mate it takes a greater level of faith to believe that stuff.
When I hear people talk about evolution, I always ask them to explain it to me. Most believers in evolution actually have no idea how to explain it. They usually mention Charles Darwin so I ask them to tell me about Charles Darwin. They usually know nothing about him. What country he was born in and when? What university course did he fail at? Are they aware that the discovery of DNA completely defies Darwins single cell theory? Yet they claim to believe his system is right???
Its takes great faith to blindly believe in something you know nothing about. The only good thing about science is that it constantly proves science is flawed.

Heres something I've always laughed at. EXTERNAL LINK and
EXTERNAL LINK
24 years of drilling and they got 12.26kms into the earth yet scientists can tell us what is in the middle of the earth?
Pleeeeeease......

I do agree with what you said about 'we cant all be right'
No we cant. But that doesn't mean we are all wrong.
Ive studied Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Bhuddism, Aboriginal beliefs, Celtic beliefs, Shinto, Jainism and to my absolute and total shock and horror, I discovered Christianity was the only one I couldn't pick apart.
Unfortunately its the Christians, not the Christ, that has pushed people into Atheism and therefore, hell.

And if you make it to the Thousand come and have a couple of beers with your heathen mate.

Heard any news on Ryno?

Got into a scrap with Huss.

Shame. I would have loved to read the banter between him and Joey Dotters about mirror image pedigrees.