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Ryan Vanderwert
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ok fair enuf, i'll remember that.
next time someone asks what sire, you guys can guess that too.....fairs fair?

perhaps I shld ask who's not a battery hen? hahaha



Graham Sheather
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30 Jul 2020 00:27


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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

ok fair enuf, i'll remember that.
next time someone asks what sire, you guys can guess that too.....fairs fair?

perhaps I shld ask who's not a battery hen? hahaha


Still dirty on missing that $50 winner lol



Peter Gurry
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30 Jul 2020 00:38


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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

ok fair enuf, i'll remember that.
next time someone asks what sire, you guys can guess that too.....fairs fair?

perhaps I shld ask who's not a battery hen? hahaha

Vanderbilt if you look at the CofA's of the Boy George Karma Chameleon mob they all share one greyhound in it, the first of the syndicates dogs, there's been 4 dogs in all now going back some 7 years and further more I always sign off BH3 Greys it's not rocket science. - Macwollie Info Officer BH3 greys



Ryan Vanderwert
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Graham Sheather wrote:

Still dirty on missing that $50 winner lol

Always am and will always be filthy on that, until you tip a longer priced one Graham. hahaha

Geezus boys I've really struck a nerve here haven't I ?
I've spent a couple of hrs happily giving you desperates a hand where I cld have helped......just thought it'd be nice to know who's involved in BH or BH3 whatever.

Pete I've got nfi what you're talking about and am not wasting time looking it up.....I didn't realise it'd be this difficult. OMG! what a pi$$er !



Jamie Quinlivian
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Rocket Science is over rated. I think the new level will be 'its not virology'

Pastor Bool. BH3 non-member supporters group.



Graham Sheather
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30 Jul 2020 01:42


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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

Graham Sheather wrote:

Still dirty on missing that $50 winner lol

Always am and will always be filthy on that, until you tip a longer priced one Graham. hahaha

Geezus boys I've really struck a nerve here haven't I ?
I've spent a couple of hrs happily giving you desperates a hand where I cld have helped......just thought it'd be nice to know who's involved in BH or BH3 whatever.

Pete I've got nfi what you're talking about and am not wasting time looking it up.....I didn't realise it'd be this difficult. OMG! what a pi$$er !


Just one for the books Rhyno Im not a desperate Im quite capable of finding a sire. Lol



Graham Sheather
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30 Jul 2020 01:43


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Peter Gurry wrote:

Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

ok fair enuf, i'll remember that.
next time someone asks what sire, you guys can guess that too.....fairs fair?

perhaps I shld ask who's not a battery hen? hahaha

Vanderbilt if you look at the CofA's of the Boy George Karma Chameleon mob they all share one greyhound in it, the first of the syndicates dogs, there's been 4 dogs in all now going back some 7 years and further more I always sign off BH3 Greys it's not rocket science. - Macwollie Info Officer BH3 greys


Told you he was a little thick lol



Ryan Vanderwert
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30 Jul 2020 01:53


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Graham Sheather wrote:

Just one for the books Rhyno Im not a desperate Im quite capable of finding a sire. Lol

stop kidding yaself, unless you're a Packer, Gates or Jordan we're all desperates. lol.

got mail for the two Ronnies today R6 Ballarat Syn.....just for the people who want everything for nuffin. haha

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Faaaaaark! 10.50 itr Betfair......3 back the fence, gets beat a 1/4 len they gotta be kidding!



Graham Sheather
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30 Jul 2020 05:54


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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

Graham Sheather wrote:

Just one for the books Rhyno Im not a desperate Im quite capable of finding a sire. Lol

stop kidding yaself, unless you're a Packer, Gates or Jordan we're all desperates. lol.

got mail for the two Ronnies today R6 Ballarat Syn.....just for the people who want everything for nuffin. haha

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Faaaaaark! 10.50 itr Betfair......3 back the fence, gets beat a 1/4 len they gotta be kidding!


Packer im tipping.



Ryan Vanderwert
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pmsl....just looking like him doesn't qualify and stop avoiding the question......who exactly are BH/BH3?

Initials /first name shall suffice



Graham Sheather
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30 Jul 2020 08:59


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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

pmsl....just looking like him doesn't qualify and stop avoiding the question......who exactly are BH/BH3?

Initials /first name shall suffice


Janes
Gurry
Sheather ffs
Have a great nights sleep tonight lol.
Do you want in next time?




Tor Janes
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30 Jul 2020 10:33


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Ryan, we appreciate the input re the sire , it saved us 150 going to brashy, now we have put ashton whathisname in with sennachie , black framed, lethal weapon and ashton dee bee.

Of course the others dont know this yet, another member is always welcome too, but beware of the mock!





Graham Sheather
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30 Jul 2020 11:16


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Tor Janes wrote:

Ryan, we appreciate the input re the sire , it saved us 150 going to brashy, now we have put ashton whathisname in with sennachie , black framed, lethal weapon and ashton dee bee.

Of course the others dont know this yet, another member is always welcome too, but beware of the mock!


i was more thinking Humdrum it would be cheaper lol



Peter Gurry
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30 Jul 2020 13:34


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Graham Sheather wrote:

Peter Gurry wrote:

Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

ok fair enuf, i'll remember that.
next time someone asks what sire, you guys can guess that too.....fairs fair?

perhaps I shld ask who's not a battery hen? hahaha

Vanderbilt if you look at the CofA's of the Boy George Karma Chameleon mob they all share one greyhound in it, the first of the syndicates dogs, there's been 4 dogs in all now going back some 7 years and further more I always sign off BH3 Greys it's not rocket science. - Macwollie Info Officer BH3 greys


Told you he was a little thick lol

Just to put the record straight and make it a little easier for the laymen out there to understand Macwollie's Rocket Science here's the mythology behind the BH3 Greys Empire.

EXTERNAL LINK

- Macwollie BH3 Greys Info Officer



Tor Janes
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Great work there bro pete!



Ryan Vanderwert
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31 Jul 2020 11:44


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Tor Janes wrote:

Ryan, we appreciate the input re the sire , it saved us 150 going to brashy, now we have put ashton whathisname in with sennachie , black framed, lethal weapon and ashton dee bee.

Of course the others dont know this yet, another member is always welcome too, but beware of the mock!

sheesh.....that was like pulling teeth.

ok look at it this way Chinatown Lad(x Lilli Pilli Lad) was from this line so the logical thing to do is try to linebreed him or his full blood relation Awesome Assassin back into the same damline.

It's best imo, to do that through dogs that make up a very high percentage(greater than 88%) of either of those 2 dogs pedigrees within/in the 5th generation. The best intensity is created again imo, when this is done through the immediate dam of the sire of choice. The 2nd best intensity is created if this is done through the sires sires damline and so on up through the dams in each sireline.

Having said that of your other possibilities:

1)Sennachie through his sires dam Chloe Allen gives up a 100% intensity with full blood relation Awesome Assassin CLICK HERE . Remember I said >88% is terrific.....often when you get to the max intensity (100%) too close through a dam attached directly to sireline as Chloe is here, it can produce shorter course types but here at least it's through the 2nd dam not Sennechies immediate dam. Hopefully you'd get a fast 500m type but if you do I doubt they'd be strong or go much further.

The closer to the front of the pedigree a 100% intensity through different individuals gets, the less likely the pups are of getting 500m.

2)Black Framed 4 dams attached to his sireline dont meet the 88% criteria

3)Lethal Weapon is really interesting in that his dam the great brood Sobbing Sal gives up a 94% reverse intensity with Lilli Pilli Lad CLICK HERE where 15 of the 16 dogs in her pedigree in the 5th generation are cross duplicated in Lilli Pilli Lad's pedigree and therefore meets the >88% intensity criteria.
Also 4th dam up the sireline Versatile Miss gives up a 100% reverse intensity CLICK HERE with Lilli Pilli Lad. Clay Moss and Cursorial have also been cross duplicated if you look at the blood quota table below.
There's a 100% intensity CLICK HERE between Worth Doing on the sires sireline and Polly's Portrait. Love these heavy intensities back in the pedigree and on the sires sireline. Also another very high 94% intensity between Light of Fire and Sobbing Sal CLICK HERE and a reverse 88% intensity going the other way.
xy angle to Brother Fox is very good too.
The pedigree looks ugly some may even call it inbred because of the duplication of Sobbing Sal but I see it's linebred in x to Wondering Cloud through different individuals and full blood relations I'm Blessed/Wanzel which is rare yet a proven intensity in x...this bloke was similar CLICK HERE 5x5 to Wandering Cloud. Think Andy unofficially held either the 600m TR at the Meadows or ptp record in a trial.
You can overlook the ugliness CLICK HERE when you've got so many pluses but has he already had his chance at stud ? Graham may be able to shed more light on that (he has some use - lol).

4) Aston Dee Bee's immediate dam gives up a 100% intensity up close CLICK HERE . As I said previously prefer to see these full intensities well back into the pedigree.

5) And unfortunately Graham old Hummy's 4 dams up into his sireline don't make that minimum 88% cut off.

Appreciate the invitation to join in, but if I was going to get back into it I'd prob think about getting a pup myself, who knows by the time you guys have some on the ground in the next 6 mths.........

Again this is only from looking at a few possibilities you guys have in mind from a linebreeding perspective to reintroduce Lilli Pilli Lad through different individuals who when mated to this damline previously gave up Chinatown Lad and Fallen Zorro.

Some of your suggestions may nick with something else that's clicked with this damline previously, however from Lilli Pilli Lad perspective only, I wld look at Aston Kimetto or Lethal Weapon with Sennachie having some claims. g/l.




Graham Sheather
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31 Jul 2020 21:33


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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

Tor Janes wrote:

Ryan, we appreciate the input re the sire , it saved us 150 going to brashy, now we have put ashton whathisname in with sennachie , black framed, lethal weapon and ashton dee bee.

Of course the others dont know this yet, another member is always welcome too, but beware of the mock!

sheesh.....that was like pulling teeth.

ok look at it this way Chinatown Lad(x Lilli Pilli Lad) was from this line so the logical thing to do is try to linebreed him or his full blood relation Awesome Assassin back into the same damline.

It's best imo, to do that through dogs that make up a very high percentage(greater than 88%) of either of those 2 dogs pedigrees within/in the 5th generation. The best intensity is created again imo, when this is done through the immediate dam of the sire of choice. The 2nd best intensity is created if this is done through the sires sires damline and so on up through the dams in each sireline.

Having said that of your other possibilities:

1)Sennachie through his sires dam Chloe Allen gives up a 100% intensity with full blood relation Awesome Assassin CLICK HERE . Remember I said >88% is terrific.....often when you get to the max intensity (100%) too close through a dam attached directly to sireline as Chloe is here, it can produce shorter course types but here at least it's through the 2nd dam not Sennechies immediate dam. Hopefully you'd get a fast 500m type but if you do I doubt they'd be strong or go much further.

The closer to the front of the pedigree a 100% intensity through different individuals gets, the less likely the pups are of getting 500m.

2)Black Framed 4 dams attached to his sireline dont meet the 88% criteria

3)Lethal Weapon is really interesting in that his dam the great brood Sobbing Sal gives up a 94% reverse intensity with Lilli Pilli Lad CLICK HERE where 15 of the 16 dogs in her pedigree in the 5th generation are cross duplicated in Lilli Pilli Lad's pedigree and therefore meets the >88% intensity criteria.
Also 4th dam up the sireline Versatile Miss gives up a 100% reverse intensity CLICK HERE with Lilli Pilli Lad. Clay Moss and Cursorial have also been cross duplicated if you look at the blood quota table below.
There's a 100% intensity CLICK HERE between Worth Doing on the sires sireline and Polly's Portrait. Love these heavy intensities back in the pedigree and on the sires sireline. Also another very high 94% intensity between Light of Fire and Sobbing Sal CLICK HERE and a reverse 88% intensity going the other way.
xy angle to Brother Fox is very good too.
The pedigree looks ugly some may even call it inbred because of the duplication of Sobbing Sal but I see it's linebred in x to Wondering Cloud through different individuals and full blood relations I'm Blessed/Wanzel which is rare yet a proven intensity in x...this bloke was similar CLICK HERE 5x5 to Wandering Cloud. Think Andy unofficially held either the 600m TR at the Meadows or ptp record in a trial.
You can overlook the ugliness CLICK HERE when you've got so many pluses but has he already had his chance at stud ? Graham may be able to shed more light on that (he has some use - lol).

4) Aston Dee Bee's immediate dam gives up a 100% intensity up close CLICK HERE . As I said previously prefer to see these full intensities well back into the pedigree.

5) And unfortunately Graham old Hummy's 4 dams up into his sireline don't make that minimum 88% cut off.

Appreciate the invitation to join in, but if I was going to get back into it I'd prob think about getting a pup myself, who knows by the time you guys have some on the ground in the next 6 mths.........

Again this is only from looking at a few possibilities you guys have in mind from a linebreeding perspective to reintroduce Lilli Pilli Lad through different individuals who when mated to this damline previously gave up Chinatown Lad and Fallen Zorro.

Some of your suggestions may nick with something else that's clicked with this damline previously, however from Lilli Pilli Lad perspective only, I wld look at Aston Kimetto or Lethal Weapon with Sennachie having some claims. g/l.


Thanks Rhyno well done. Would also have to look at the commercial side of things as well if we wanted to sell a couple. I will also be breeding with Nikolina down the track so we will have a 2 pronged attack. Just had Zarita served by Sennachie.



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Hey Gerhard what trophy did you score for winning the Horses Birthday @ Temora Sunday Night, not a carrot cake by any chance. - Macwollie



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Peter Gurry wrote:

Hey Gerhard what trophy did you score for winning the Horses Birthday @ Temora Sunday Night, not a carrot cake by any chance. - Macwollie

6 bags of garden fertiliser.
Framed picture of Mr Ed.



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And 50% of $1500.00 yah lucky bastid - Mockers

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