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Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 886 Dogs 3 / Races 0 29 Mar 2021 22:30
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this sire with very limited breedings makin g waves in usa word around is some vials have shipped t australia any update avaiabe out of famed D Q WILLIAMS in oklahoma
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Mar 2021 10:28
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Howard, how does he rate to some of the US sires that are making there mark in Australia and also his race replays available to watch?
Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 886 Dogs 3 / Races 0 30 Mar 2021 13:41
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try website called track info the greyhound search then replays no he he is unproven
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 31 Mar 2021 00:17
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I went on that site but his name does not come up.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 31 Mar 2021 01:01
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mark william claxton wrote:
I went on that site but his name does not come up.
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Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 31 Mar 2021 01:38
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Thankyou Sandro, that is it. Re-Mark. He must have been a "good" chaser as i noticed he only raced at 2 tracks over same distance.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 31 Mar 2021 04:05
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Looks too much like Djays Octane. No thanks
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 31 Mar 2021 05:26
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Yes, i am not keen as it seems near on all US sires raced from 500m upwards. I will stick to what i learnt from Alan Pringle = "Speed".
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 31 Mar 2021 05:32
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mark william claxton wrote:
Yes, i am not keen as it seems near on all US sires raced from 500m upwards. I will stick to what i learnt from Alan Pringle = "Speed".
And the Greyhound-data award for the "Greatest Name Dropper" goes to.......drum roll.........Mark Claxton. Lol
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 31 Mar 2021 05:50
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Just quoting the BEST of the BEST! When others have bred as many champions as Alan Pringle i will listen to them. Sadly MOST would NOT even know who he is or what he achieved. NO surprise Marty Hallinan producing "top quality" greyhounds from the very same property. 'Maybe' "DICK" you could learn a thing or 2 as well?
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 31 Mar 2021 06:11
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I know who he is and what he "achieved". I certainly don't admire him or see him as an appropriate mentor.
Let's get back on topic.
That Flying Penske blood can add strength, but isn't the most genuine line. Chase is one of the breeder's highest priorities in today's sire selection.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 02 Apr 2021 10:01
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mark william claxton wrote:
Yes, i am not keen as it seems near on all US sires raced from 500m upwards. I will stick to what i learnt from Alan Pringle = "Speed".
Yeah but you can't say Need my money now, SH Avatar, Kinloch brae, konomi, clappin thunder, Kelso cork man, SE Tali Sundance, Kelso Fergal, flying fired up, Kiowa producer, Djays octane, nashpelli, LK's Vesper, Superior product, Superior Panama, Jiminy Reno, Blazin wildfire, Kiowa mon manny, soprano drive, kinda cruel red, RT's Bo Jangles, Pat C Sabbath, Bart's Outofmyway, etc. all have no use in Australia because they could run 500m and are American bred
I'm all for speed wins races, but so does not having injury prone dogs or dogs that get a stitch. Plus Aston kimetto, Orson Allen, bernardo, Aussie Infrared, hard style Rico, Moreira, Brad hill Billy, Flynn, get it gizmo, striker light, Aston rupee, handsome prince, king cratos etc. didn't struggle too much for speed because they had an American sire
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 03 Apr 2021 22:25
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As Alan Pringle use to say once a sire has gone past 500+ is shows stamina. Yes, you increase stamina in your line but in return you lose 'early' speed. BUT once in a blue moon a dog like Fernando Bale comes along that has both. He is 1 in a million born. In regards to imported sires, from what I have read "most" of these sires in the past have NOT been the very cream of the crop from their respective countries. PAW started predominately putting his bitches to imported sires as he was finding he was mainly getting fast "dogs" & very few bitches due the fact Temlee is predominately a sire line. And he was quoted as saying that if he kept going the way he was he would breed himself out of business.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 04 Apr 2021 00:13
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mark william claxton wrote:
As Alan Pringle use to say once a sire has gone past 500+ is shows stamina. Yes, you increase stamina in your line but in return you lose 'early' speed. In regards to imported sires, from what I have read "most" of these sires in the past have NOT been the very cream of the crop from their respective countries
Yes you're 100% right, a fair few of the import sires weren't the cream of the crop, but that's why you do your own study before using a import sire then you'll see dogs like SH Avatar, Need My Money Now and Konomi hold track records in America
As ironic as it sounds because I'm probably too outspoken, by all means listen to what people have to say, but make your own observations and ideas on things and trust what you know/have seen ahead of anything else
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Apr 2021 01:53
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I have a fair bit of line breeding to do before I use an outcross. Yes, you are absolutely right, do your study & make an informed decision.
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